Injuries (heading to Frisco )

[Lord Vigo]

The Vandals have 66% of their QBs out with a broken collarbone. That can’t be coincidence. Probably should fire their strength coach immediately!

The problem is clear...our youth is not drinking enough milk!

How many gallons of milk is sufficient to be able to withstand a full Paul Brott body-slam?

Straight from the cow after every workout.

That’s what I’m talking about.

[kennethnoisewater]

The Vandals have 66% of their QBs out with a broken collarbone. That can’t be coincidence. Probably should fire their strength coach immediately!

The problem is clear...our youth is not drinking enough milk!

How many gallons of milk is sufficient to be able to withstand a full Paul Brott body-slam?

Straight from the cow after every workout.

Assuming said workouts start before 5 in the morning...everyone knows the leading cause of ACL tears is workouts starting late in the morning (after 5).

[technoCat]

Is this thread really turning into a conspiracy theory about injuries!?

For the love of god, do better people, you're smarting than this.

I don't think we are saying anything about a conspiracy. Just grasping at straws of how to avoid the issue. Maybe where they practice or some changes in their diet or workouts could help. Get those guys in gymnastics/ballet!!

[MSU01]

Is this thread really turning into a conspiracy theory about injuries!?

For the love of god, do better people, you're smarting than this.

I don't think we are saying anything about a conspiracy. Just grasping at straws of how to avoid the issue. Maybe where they practice or some changes in their diet or workouts could help. Get those guys in gymnastics/ballet!!

I don't think there's anything you can do to avoid the issue of injuries happening during games, as the three recent ACL tears all have. Football is physical, injuries are inevitable, and it just so happens that the last three major injuries were all the same thing. But that's likely just random bad luck and not necessarily any evidence of MSU doing something wrong that makes ACL tears a more likely injury than others for players to suffer.

The more concerning thing to me would be if MSU players were suffering a ton of major injuries in practice, as to me those are not entirely avoidable but definitely more preventable in terms of what the coaches choose to have the players do out there on the practice field every day.

[Long Time Cat]

The Vandals have 66% of their QBs out with a broken collarbone. That can’t be coincidence. Probably should fire their strength coach immediately!

I don't necessarily agree that all the acl issues are S&C problems. But, trying to make your point by comparing a broken one to torn ligaments doesn't even make sense.

You’re probably right, but I have a sarcastic trait that I can’t quit contain.

[The Butcher]

The Vandals have 66% of their QBs out with a broken collarbone. That can’t be coincidence. Probably should fire their strength coach immediately!

The problem is clear...our youth is not drinking enough milk!

How many gallons of milk is sufficient to be able to withstand a full Paul Brott body-slam?

Straight from the cow after every workout.

While soaking in a cold milk bath.

[JimboCat]

Dang!

Torn ACL University. Poilidore and Davis evidently had knee surgeries as well.

So those two, Dowler, Schmidt, and now Danny U... I know football is a rough sport, and injuries happen, but is there something different that should be addressed in their strength training and workouts? I know the strength coach does a fantastic job overall, it just seems like alot of guys with the same, or similar, injury.

I’m pretty positive every fanbase has this conversation every year.

Not entirely convinced of that...watched a ton of BS/FCS football over the years and you don't see these season ending/serious injuries #'s, per say, at dUMb, the DSU's, etc. And consistently. Perkins, Davis, Polidore, Schmidt, Danny, Dowler all All Conf. type players. Not to mention the last couple years, too. JMO.

Go tell that to Idaho

Who is hurt for Idaho other than their QBs? And those aren't season-ending necessarily. I know there is some bias as far as feeling like we get more but right now we are missing a starter from all 3 levels of defense for the year with ACL tears. Isn't Stillwell a knee too? Look at our luck with RBs the last 3 years. Starts to make you wonder after a while if it's not a systematic issue.

I believe they are down 2 OL, one is season ending I think. They their leading RB out, will be back, Cummings that played against us has missed quite a bit of tome this year. Had a defensive player out for the season, I think he was a starting safety. If layne gets back it may only be for the last couple of games.

I'm not making excuses for them, teams need to have depth, and as to their QB issues if you want to play at this level you need more than 3 (1 so and 2 fr) scrawny QB's

They are now crying about the hit that took that one out, but it was an absolutely clean legal hit.

Eck said yesterday, when asked in his Monday press conference, that he thought the hit was clean.

[mslacatfan]

[coloradocat]

@Colter_Nuanez 1) There are 5 regular season games remaining, including PSU this week which he will travel to and possibly play in. 2) He did NOT confirm that Davis will utilize his redshirt. 3) We all know what happened the last time we redshirted a senior RB. He's not necessarily going to be back for the Bobcats next year.

"He COULD utilize a redshirt this year"
"That means he CAN play in four"
"That's what we're using as a barometer right now"

We can infer that redshirting is in play, to the point that it is essentially the plan, but he didn't confirm that it's a done deal. Thanks for sharing the clip but your tweet is misleading.

[wbtfg]

@Colter_Nuanez 1) There are 5 regular season games remaining, including PSU this week which he will travel to and possibly play in. 2) He did NOT confirm that Davis will utilize his redshirt. 3) We all know what happened the last time we redshirted a senior RB. He's not necessarily going to be back for the Bobcats next year.

"He COULD utilize a redshirt this year"
"That means he CAN play in four"
"That's what we're using as a barometer right now"

We can infer that redshirting is in play, to the point that it is essentially the plan, but he didn't confirm that it's a done deal. Thanks for sharing the clip but your tweet is misleading.

Julius isn’t the one I’m worried about leaving.

[coloradocat]

@Colter_Nuanez 1) There are 5 regular season games remaining, including PSU this week which he will travel to and possibly play in. 2) He did NOT confirm that Davis will utilize his redshirt. 3) We all know what happened the last time we redshirted a senior RB. He's not necessarily going to be back for the Bobcats next year.

"He COULD utilize a redshirt this year"
"That means he CAN play in four"
"That's what we're using as a barometer right now"

We can infer that redshirting is in play, to the point that it is essentially the plan, but he didn't confirm that it's a done deal. Thanks for sharing the clip but your tweet is misleading.

Julius isn’t the one I’m worried about leaving.

Me either. Colter just got a false start penalty so I figured I'd point that part out as well.

[kmax]

The Vandals have 66% of their QBs out with a broken collarbone. That can’t be coincidence. Probably should fire their strength coach immediately!

The problem is clear...our youth is not drinking enough milk!

How many gallons of milk is sufficient to be able to withstand a full Paul Brott body-slam?

Straight from the cow after every workout.

Assuming said workouts start before 5 in the morning...everyone knows the leading cause of ACL tears is workouts starting late in the morning (after 5).

Finally someone in this thread with some common sense.

[CodyCat]

@Colter_Nuanez 1) There are 5 regular season games remaining, including PSU this week which he will travel to and possibly play in. 2) He did NOT confirm that Davis will utilize his redshirt. 3) We all know what happened the last time we redshirted a senior RB. He's not necessarily going to be back for the Bobcats next year.

"He COULD utilize a redshirt this year"
"That means he CAN play in four"
"That's what we're using as a barometer right now"

We can infer that redshirting is in play, to the point that it is essentially the plan, but he didn't confirm that it's a done deal. Thanks for sharing the clip but your tweet is misleading.

Julius isn’t the one I’m worried about leaving.

Who are you worried about?

[MSU01]

@Colter_Nuanez 1) There are 5 regular season games remaining, including PSU this week which he will travel to and possibly play in. 2) He did NOT confirm that Davis will utilize his redshirt. 3) We all know what happened the last time we redshirted a senior RB. He's not necessarily going to be back for the Bobcats next year.

"He COULD utilize a redshirt this year"
"That means he CAN play in four"
"That's what we're using as a barometer right now"

We can infer that redshirting is in play, to the point that it is essentially the plan, but he didn't confirm that it's a done deal. Thanks for sharing the clip but your tweet is misleading.

Julius isn’t the one I’m worried about leaving.

Who are you worried about?

I assume Scottre, two years of eligibility left and he's undoubtedly good enough to play at a higher level than the Big Sky.

[BelligerentBobcat]

Pretty sure what Vigen is saying that if they can hold Davis out of a game to preserve his redshirt, they will.

[cats2506]

Pretty sure what Vigen is saying that if they can hold Davis out of a game to preserve his redshirt, they will.

I think that will most likely be either the EWU or SAC games. Both of those run defenses are bad.

If things are going was expected in the first few possessions at PSU they may keep him on the sidelines until after the bye

[CelticCat]

There is zero reason to play Davis at PSU IMO, especially since there is a bye afterwards. So assuming Davis wants to come back next year, the stage is set for it.

[catatac]

@Colter_Nuanez 1) There are 5 regular season games remaining, including PSU this week which he will travel to and possibly play in. 2) He did NOT confirm that Davis will utilize his redshirt. 3) We all know what happened the last time we redshirted a senior RB. He's not necessarily going to be back for the Bobcats next year.

"He COULD utilize a redshirt this year"
"That means he CAN play in four"
"That's what we're using as a barometer right now"

We can infer that redshirting is in play, to the point that it is essentially the plan, but he didn't confirm that it's a done deal. Thanks for sharing the clip but your tweet is misleading.

Julius isn’t the one I’m worried about leaving.

Who are you worried about?

I assume Scottre, two years of eligibility left and he's undoubtedly good enough to play at a higher level than the Big Sky.

I'd hate to lose him, but RB is the position I'm LEAST worried about on this team. Zero doubt we'll ALWAYS be very, very good at RB with Vigen running this show.

[tetoncat]

@Colter_Nuanez 1) There are 5 regular season games remaining, including PSU this week which he will travel to and possibly play in. 2) He did NOT confirm that Davis will utilize his redshirt. 3) We all know what happened the last time we redshirted a senior RB. He's not necessarily going to be back for the Bobcats next year.

"He COULD utilize a redshirt this year"
"That means he CAN play in four"
"That's what we're using as a barometer right now"

We can infer that redshirting is in play, to the point that it is essentially the plan, but he didn't confirm that it's a done deal. Thanks for sharing the clip but your tweet is misleading.

Julius isn’t the one I’m worried about leaving.

Who are you worried about?

I assume Scottre, two years of eligibility left and he's undoubtedly good enough to play at a higher level than the Big Sky.

I'd hate to lose him, but RB is the position I'm LEAST worried about on this team. Zero doubt we'll ALWAYS be very, very good at RB with Vigen running this show.

Agree if Scottre left Cats could have Davis, Jones, Coon, White, this year's RS kids and incoming freshman.

[gtapp]

While working out with weights can contribute to tendon issues (you can tear a tendon doing almost anything) it usually requires several factors. I have torn all four tendons that hold my quad muscle intact (quad rupture) in both legs causing my quad to ball up near my groin. I have torn the Retinacula in one knee. I am missing my bicep tendon and 2 rotator cuff tendons in one shoulder and have had surgery on the rotator in the other. Mine were caused my several factors. 1) lifting heavy all the time (power lifter), 2) years of abuse to my body, 3) having to do exercises that are not ideal due to past injuries and 4) years of heavy steroid abuse when I was competing. College athlete lifters should not be facing any of these issues. I also believe that our Athletic Training Staff is really top notch and would know how to minimize these types of injuries. I think we just had a period of bad luck. Most teams have student athletes with various injuries including ACL's, MCL's and PCL's. Not just us!