Indoor facility

[Bocephus]

Go back and listen to Faldos pick on the USC game. He pretty much nailed the outcome of that game. I would be happy if he bought us some new speakers. Those are about as embarrassing as the Griz defense.

The speakers and video board both feel really outdated. I was cringing during proud of the house we built. Hard to see and speakers were distorting.

[gtapp]

Lots of rumors here. Is this really happening? Is the money 100% in place? Any idea when MSU will make an official announcement?

Really happening, not 100% yet but getting there. Announcement probably coming soon.

So it’s the famous MSU “quiet” phase. I knew my three year prediction was accurate

They have about half the money they need but are optimistic that once announced they can complete the fund raising quickly. Some feel like a year away from build completion. I would guess 2 years.

[gtapp]

Go back and listen to Faldos pick on the USC game. He pretty much nailed the outcome of that game. I would be happy if he bought us some new speakers. Those are about as embarrassing as the Griz defense.

The speakers and video board both feel really outdated. I was cringing during proud of the house we built. Hard to see and speakers were distorting.

The new video board was supposed to be in before this season but covid set things like video displays back a long ways. I am hoping for next year but the scent has gone cold on this one. No one seems to know.

[Catsrgrood]

Go back and listen to Faldos pick on the USC game. He pretty much nailed the outcome of that game. I would be happy if he bought us some new speakers. Those are about as embarrassing as the Griz defense.

The speakers and video board both feel really outdated. I was cringing during proud of the house we built. Hard to see and speakers were distorting.

Agreed, and kind of ironic that the “proud of the house we built” video looks and sounds so bad on a horribly outdated video board and speaker system.

The video is about more than the physical stadium and buildings, I get that, but ironic nonetheless.

[catgrad05]

Lots of rumors here. Is this really happening? Is the money 100% in place? Any idea when MSU will make an official announcement?

Really happening, not 100% yet but getting there. Announcement probably coming soon.

So it’s the famous MSU “quiet” phase. I knew my three year prediction was accurate

They have about half the money they need but are optimistic that once announced they can complete the fund raising quickly. Some feel like a year away from build completion. I would guess 2 years.

I think the timeline on the blueprints/ architectural drawing will be the deciding timeline factor

Someone said earlier they are ditching the indoor track idea and personally I think that’s a mistake. It seems like we might be rushing to one up the community college to the west rather than building what was originally planned (ie the BAC looks smaller than the master plan drawing and is probably closer to the field and might prevent some seating expansion)

[Hawks86]

I think the timeline on the blueprints/ architectural drawing will be the deciding timeline factor

Someone said earlier they are ditching the indoor track idea and personally I think that’s a mistake. It seems like we might be rushing to one up the community college to the west rather than building what was originally planned (ie the BAC looks smaller than the master plan drawing and is probably closer to the field and might prevent some seating expansion)

They are the ones rushing to get one done. The track would be really nice, but the Brick isn't going anywhere.

[60's Cat]

Take a look at what Texas A & M has.

[GeauxCats41]

Go back and listen to Faldos pick on the USC game. He pretty much nailed the outcome of that game. I would be happy if he bought us some new speakers. Those are about as embarrassing as the Griz defense.

The speakers and video board both feel really outdated. I was cringing during proud of the house we built. Hard to see and speakers were distorting.

Such a great video but being able to only have hear and see it totally ruined the pre-game mood. I had to look away and just picture the video myself. That’s gotta get fixed…

[catgrad05]

I think the timeline on the blueprints/ architectural drawing will be the deciding timeline factor

Someone said earlier they are ditching the indoor track idea and personally I think that’s a mistake. It seems like we might be rushing to one up the community college to the west rather than building what was originally planned (ie the BAC looks smaller than the master plan drawing and is probably closer to the field and might prevent some seating expansion)

They are the ones rushing to get one done. The track would be really nice, but the Brick isn't going anywhere.

True on both accounts

However having another location for track, and possibly being able to give the brick solely to basketball and volleyball (other than indoor track meets) would be huge though

[wbtfg]

I think the timeline on the blueprints/ architectural drawing will be the deciding timeline factor

Someone said earlier they are ditching the indoor track idea and personally I think that’s a mistake. It seems like we might be rushing to one up the community college to the west rather than building what was originally planned (ie the BAC looks smaller than the master plan drawing and is probably closer to the field and might prevent some seating expansion)

They are the ones rushing to get one done. The track would be really nice, but the Brick isn't going anywhere.

True on both accounts

However having another location for track, and possibly being able to give the brick solely to basketball and volleyball (other than indoor track meets) would be huge though

I think you could do quite a few track workouts in the IPF. Throws, sprints, etc. Just wouldn't be able to do the longer distances.

Also, that would be a pretty long walk for the track athlete to go across the street.

[Catsrgrood]

So is the plan to put this off of 11th near the retention pond/irrigation thing, or will it be in Dyche Field like in the original 20 year plan?

[kennethnoisewater]

I think the timeline on the blueprints/ architectural drawing will be the deciding timeline factor

Someone said earlier they are ditching the indoor track idea and personally I think that’s a mistake. It seems like we might be rushing to one up the community college to the west rather than building what was originally planned (ie the BAC looks smaller than the master plan drawing and is probably closer to the field and might prevent some seating expansion)

They are the ones rushing to get one done. The track would be really nice, but the Brick isn't going anywhere.

True on both accounts

However having another location for track, and possibly being able to give the brick solely to basketball and volleyball (other than indoor track meets) would be huge though

I think you could do quite a few track workouts in the IPF. Throws, sprints, etc. Just wouldn't be able to do the longer distances.

Also, that would be a pretty long walk for the track athlete to go across the street.

Yeah I think the goal of putting a track in there is for workouts, not for hosting track meets. Indoor track meets (generally) use a 200m track, which wouldn't work in this building unless you built it double the size and added a full track facility and grandstands under the same roof. A full-sized football field gives lots of options for indoor workouts. I'm sure they could easily put in jump and pole vault pits. You could fit a whole 110m hurdle layout on a football field too. Only races you couldn't simulate inside without a 400m track are 400 hurdles and the steeplechase, and MSU has done well in those without an indoor facility. I'm a track guy, but I don't think it's anywhere close to as much of a necessity to have an indoor facility for track as it is for football. I'd just hope it's built big enough to add a track later if they want.

[MSU01]

The original plan for the IPF did in fact call for a track that would be used for competition as well as practice.

https://msubobcats.com/sports/2017/9/20 ... spx?id=357

[BobcatDel]

The original plan for the IPF did in fact call for a track that would be used for competition as well as practice.

https://msubobcats.com/sports/2017/9/20 ... spx?id=357

I certainly hope they make it multifunctional for several sports rather than just one team. I would hope they can keep the basketball court set up during peak BB season and track kids can work out in IPF. I would like to see them have some indoor simulators set up for women’s golf back in a corner. We’ve had some pretty competitive (on national level) rugby/lacrosse club teams as of late…hope they can schedule some indoor time during most brutal weather. I want to try to support the IPF with my pittance of a donation but I would struggle to contribute if just for only one sport.

[wbtfg]

The original plan for the IPF did in fact call for a track that would be used for competition as well as practice.

https://msubobcats.com/sports/2017/9/20 ... spx?id=357

Yep....I think the plan changed. I'd assume the increasing necessity of an indoor for football changed priorities. Instead of a $40 mil structure within the next 5-10 years, I think we're going with a less expensive version that can be funded and built within the next 1-2 years.

[kennethnoisewater]

The original plan for the IPF did in fact call for a track that would be used for competition as well as practice.

https://msubobcats.com/sports/2017/9/20 ... spx?id=357

I stand corrected. I don't know why they'd want to build a full facility for that with an 80 yard football field. I'd guess that's a 300m track around that field, which I believe is what NAU has. Don't get me wrong, it would be nice, but USATF indoor nationals last year was on a 200m track in Spokane, and MSU has a good facility for that in the Brick. I suppose if you had all the money in the world you build that, but I'm guessing there aren't a lot of big money donations rolling in to fund an indoor competition facility for track when there's already one good enough to host BSC championships.

[Montanabob]

The original plan for the IPF did in fact call for a track that would be used for competition as well as practice.

https://msubobcats.com/sports/2017/9/20 ... spx?id=357

I stand corrected. I don't know why they'd want to build a full facility for that with an 80 yard football field. I'd guess that's a 300m track around that field, which I believe is what NAU has. Don't get me wrong, it would be nice, but USATF indoor nationals last year was on a 200m track in Spokane, and MSU has a good facility for that in the Brick. I suppose if you had all the money in the world you build that, but I'm guessing there aren't a lot of big money donations rolling in to fund an indoor competition facility for track when there's already one good enough to host BSC championships.

The brick is not available year round and has to be reconfigured too often. Permanent track that can be used 365 and probably when players are on the field. Cross country can even use it for winter training

[catgrad05]

The original plan for the IPF did in fact call for a track that would be used for competition as well as practice.

https://msubobcats.com/sports/2017/9/20 ... spx?id=357

I stand corrected. I don't know why they'd want to build a full facility for that with an 80 yard football field. I'd guess that's a 300m track around that field, which I believe is what NAU has. Don't get me wrong, it would be nice, but USATF indoor nationals last year was on a 200m track in Spokane, and MSU has a good facility for that in the Brick. I suppose if you had all the money in the world you build that, but I'm guessing there aren't a lot of big money donations rolling in to fund an indoor competition facility for track when there's already one good enough to host BSC championships.

The brick is not available year round and has to be reconfigured too often. Permanent track that can be used 365 and probably when players are on the field. Cross country can even use it for winter training

The original idea was to benefit more of the athletic department as a whole. Whatever the new version is I hope still does and is not 1st, 2nd and third about football and 4th the other programs

Don’t get me wrong I am all for supporting the football program, from out of town and only attend football games. But we don’t need to copy the gris and prioritize only football, we have been and should continue to be better than that as a athletic program

[kennethnoisewater]

The original plan for the IPF did in fact call for a track that would be used for competition as well as practice.

https://msubobcats.com/sports/2017/9/20 ... spx?id=357

I stand corrected. I don't know why they'd want to build a full facility for that with an 80 yard football field. I'd guess that's a 300m track around that field, which I believe is what NAU has. Don't get me wrong, it would be nice, but USATF indoor nationals last year was on a 200m track in Spokane, and MSU has a good facility for that in the Brick. I suppose if you had all the money in the world you build that, but I'm guessing there aren't a lot of big money donations rolling in to fund an indoor competition facility for track when there's already one good enough to host BSC championships.

The brick is not available year round and has to be reconfigured too often. Permanent track that can be used 365 and probably when players are on the field. Cross country can even use it for winter training

Well sure, it would be great if money wasn't an obstacle. Even with the new proposed facility they could get a lot of training in. I hope they can raise enough money to get a track in there, but I'd imagine most of the donations/pledges coming in are with a football facility in mind. If we were talking about a facility paid for with state money, I'd say build as much as you can build. Otherwise tell donors their contribution is half for football and half for track and see where it lands. I'd love to see somebody step up with a huge donation for the track program.

But if it costs $15M to build the football facility and say $20M to build it for track as well, I'm not sure where that extra money comes from. I say build it big enough to accommodate a track down the road if you can't get the funding for all of it right now. If the money is there, by all means add track facilities. It would be nice to have the fieldhouse freed up for basketball and other special events.

[kennethnoisewater]

The original plan for the IPF did in fact call for a track that would be used for competition as well as practice.

https://msubobcats.com/sports/2017/9/20 ... spx?id=357

I stand corrected. I don't know why they'd want to build a full facility for that with an 80 yard football field. I'd guess that's a 300m track around that field, which I believe is what NAU has. Don't get me wrong, it would be nice, but USATF indoor nationals last year was on a 200m track in Spokane, and MSU has a good facility for that in the Brick. I suppose if you had all the money in the world you build that, but I'm guessing there aren't a lot of big money donations rolling in to fund an indoor competition facility for track when there's already one good enough to host BSC championships.

The brick is not available year round and has to be reconfigured too often. Permanent track that can be used 365 and probably when players are on the field. Cross country can even use it for winter training

The original idea was to benefit more of the athletic department as a whole. Whatever the new version is I hope still does and is not 1st, 2nd and third about football and 4th the other programs

Don’t get me wrong I am all for supporting the football program, from out of town and only attend football games. But we don’t need to copy the gris and prioritize only football, we have been and should continue to be better than that as a athletic program

I get that, but it's not state money paying for it. If MSU was asking the BOR for funding for this, I'd agree that it would need to benefit all programs equally. Plus if you look at something like the BAC (funded with football donations), that benefits athletics as a whole in a big way. Moving the football program out of the Brick frees up office and operational spaces, as well as weight rooms and locker rooms for other sports. Building a facility (with donations presumably for football) that track can use for training is super helpful for track. IMO there's very little need for a track facility besides the Brick for hosting competitions--the need is on the training side. Set up the fieldhouse 3-4 times a year for an indoor meet and let them train in another building. I don't think it shows that the university only cares about football if that's all the big donors care about. Our current track facilities are really good...among the best in the conference. Basketball facilities are pretty mediocre, but I'm not sure what the solution is there. Would they be vastly improved by getting the track team out of the Brick? I really don't know the answer to that. You can practice basketball on just about any court, and I'm hopeful the new fitness center will have a gym or two that are good for practicing in. Most teams, college and pro, don't practice on their arena floor regularly.