Other Week 13 FCS Games

[coloradocat]

Craig Haley's bracket would be an absolute dream

https://theanalyst.com/articles/fcs-pla ... sunday-eve

I would swap Davis and SDSU so that they get a shot at taking Tarleton and the griz out (and SDSU shouldn't be above them but otherwise I like this one and it seems possible.

[Long Time Cat]

Craig Haley's bracket would be an absolute dream

https://theanalyst.com/articles/fcs-pla ... sunday-eve

He has the Gris as a 5 seed. Oofda!
I don’t know that they dropped to five, but I don’t see how they can stay at 3 either. They were ranked third by the selection committee previously and lost. The fourth ranked team won and is undefeated it just seems natural to me that Lehigh would move to third and the Gris would drop to fourth. I don’t think that the close loss helps them if their close win over a terrible Eastern Washington team didn’t hurt them.

[onceacat]

Craig Haley's bracket would be an absolute dream

https://theanalyst.com/articles/fcs-pla ... sunday-eve

I would swap Davis and SDSU so that they get a shot at taking Tarleton and the griz out (and SDSU shouldn't be above them but otherwise I like this one and it seems possible.

That corner of the bracket with both SD schools, UM & Tarleton is like a murderers row. Which would make me more than a little happy.

Davis and/or Ill State are going to have a really good shot at upsets in that corner too.

[nanacat]

Craig Haley's bracket would be an absolute dream

https://theanalyst.com/articles/fcs-pla ... sunday-eve

He has the Gris as a 5 seed. Oofda!
I don’t know that they dropped to five, but I don’t see how they can stay at 3 either. They were ranked third by the selection committee previously and lost. The fourth ranked team won and is undefeated it just seems natural to me that Lehigh would move to third and the Gris would drop to fourth. I don’t think that the close loss helps them if their close win over a terrible Eastern Washington team didn’t hurt them.

Well, and like someone else said, their D2 game didn't help them

[onceacat]

Craig Haley's bracket would be an absolute dream

https://theanalyst.com/articles/fcs-pla ... sunday-eve

He has the Gris as a 5 seed. Oofda!
I don’t know that they dropped to five, but I don’t see how they can stay at 3 either. They were ranked third by the selection committee previously and lost. The fourth ranked team won and is undefeated it just seems natural to me that Lehigh would move to third and the Gris would drop to fourth. I don’t think that the close loss helps them if their close win over a terrible Eastern Washington team didn’t hurt them.

Lehigh has 2 more wins than the gris...and the same number of wins over ranked teams. Yeah, Lehigh's schedule is really weak, but they rolled pretty much everyone they played, including common opponent Sacred Heart. It would be hard NOT to give them a bump up to #3.

Tarleton has a significantly better resume than the pandas. The Texans have 2 ranked wins (West Georgia & Army) and a tougher strength of schedule than the pandas...plus one more win due to the gris game against Central Washington.

That said, you could slot those 3 teams in pretty much any order & it wouldn't be totally off base.

[coloradocat]

Craig Haley's bracket would be an absolute dream

https://theanalyst.com/articles/fcs-pla ... sunday-eve

He has the Gris as a 5 seed. Oofda!
I don’t know that they dropped to five, but I don’t see how they can stay at 3 either. They were ranked third by the selection committee previously and lost. The fourth ranked team won and is undefeated it just seems natural to me that Lehigh would move to third and the Gris would drop to fourth. I don’t think that the close loss helps them if their close win over a terrible Eastern Washington team didn’t hurt them.

Well, and like someone else said, their D2 game didn't help them

It's been mentioned before that the committee has punished teams for playing D2 games. They need to crack down on that. Plus scheduling EIGHT home games should count against you a little.

[Utcatsfan]

Craig Haley's bracket would be an absolute dream

https://theanalyst.com/articles/fcs-pla ... sunday-eve

He has the Gris as a 5 seed. Oofda!
I don’t know that they dropped to five, but I don’t see how they can stay at 3 either. They were ranked third by the selection committee previously and lost. The fourth ranked team won and is undefeated it just seems natural to me that Lehigh would move to third and the Gris would drop to fourth. I don’t think that the close loss helps them if their close win over a terrible Eastern Washington team didn’t hurt them.

Lehigh has 2 more wins than the gris...and the same number of wins over ranked teams. Yeah, Lehigh's schedule is really weak, but they rolled pretty much everyone they played, including common opponent Sacred Heart. It would be hard NOT to give them a bump up to #3.

Tarleton has a significantly better resume than the pandas. The Texans have 2 ranked wins (West Georgia & Army) and a tougher strength of schedule than the pandas...plus one more win due to the gris game against Central Washington.

That said, you could slot those 3 teams in pretty much any order & it wouldn't be totally off base.

Again, Army does not count as a ranked win, it's cool they beat an FBS team but Army isn't exactly a powerhouse this season. Griz according to Herder has a Top 30 schedule vs Lehigh at 93, good for them they went undefeated but their SoS is a joke. Griz will at worst be #4 and honestly Tarleton and Lehigh haven't done enough at least imo to take #3 from them.

[coloradocat]

Craig Haley's bracket would be an absolute dream

https://theanalyst.com/articles/fcs-pla ... sunday-eve

He has the Gris as a 5 seed. Oofda!
I don’t know that they dropped to five, but I don’t see how they can stay at 3 either. They were ranked third by the selection committee previously and lost. The fourth ranked team won and is undefeated it just seems natural to me that Lehigh would move to third and the Gris would drop to fourth. I don’t think that the close loss helps them if their close win over a terrible Eastern Washington team didn’t hurt them.

Lehigh has 2 more wins than the gris...and the same number of wins over ranked teams. Yeah, Lehigh's schedule is really weak, but they rolled pretty much everyone they played, including common opponent Sacred Heart. It would be hard NOT to give them a bump up to #3.

Tarleton has a significantly better resume than the pandas. The Texans have 2 ranked wins (West Georgia & Army) and a tougher strength of schedule than the pandas...plus one more win due to the gris game against Central Washington.

That said, you could slot those 3 teams in pretty much any order & it wouldn't be totally off base.

Again, Army does not count as a ranked win, it's cool they beat an FBS team but Army isn't exactly a powerhouse this season. Griz according to Herder has a Top 30 schedule vs Lehigh at 93, good for them they went undefeated but their SoS is a joke. Griz will at worst be #4 and honestly Tarleton and Lehigh haven't done enough at least imo to take #3 from them.

Ultimately there is no magic formula for the seeds. The committee is supposed to rank the best teams in order. Losing to the clear 2nd best team in the country by 3 points in a rivalry game will make the griz the 3 on a majority, if not all, of committee ballots.

[Cataholic]

Here is a projected bracket

https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fc ... acketology

I don't see the Griz at #4, they will probably be #3 and Monmouth lost today to a 1-10 Albany team so they wouldn't be #11

Curious what makes you think that? Grix have 0 wins against the playoff field and only 1 bubble win. I think (someone can check me on this) only 2 wins against teams with winning records. 10-1

Lehigh is undefeated with wins against the playoff field. 12-0

Tarleton has an FBS win and a win against a bubble team with a stronger SOS. 11-1

Curious why those teams don't get the nod.

According to Herder Montana has the 25th toughest schedule, Lehigh is sitting at 93, multiple non playoff Big Sky and MVFC teams would go undefeated with that schedule.
Tarleton does not have a stronger SoS then Montana either and they only have 1 win against a ranked team this season.
I trust Herder alot more then a site that thinks a Monmouth team who lost to a 1 win Albany team would be the 11th Seed.

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-202 ... inal-bzbz/

Tarletons SOS is tougher than the Pandas (29 vs 35 going into this weekend). Not sure where you (or Herder) got that. Wins against West Georgia (currently #23) and Army, thats 2 ranked wins vs only one for the Gris. Plus the Pandas game against Western Oregon is a non- counter.

I get that Lehigh had a weak schedule...but they've got wins against the playoff field. UM doesn't (unless a 7-5 UND team squeaks in). Lehigh also has 2 more wins than the Pandas.

I'm not trying to convince anyone...but Tarleton has a clearly better resume than the gris. I think Lehigh's 2 win advantage is sort of a push with the gris harder schedule & 'good loss'.

Herder is probably the best FCS analyst out there, but he has a really bizarre hard on for the Pandas that doesnt make sense to me. (He picked UM to win the Brawl after all, despite MSUs clear over performance on the field). I take him really seriously on all issues not related to dUMb. I don't think UM drops to #5, but its pretty easy to put one of those other teams at 3.

I'm not locking anything in and wouldn't be surprised if they end up at #4, but beating a not so good Army team doesn't count as a ranked win when it comes to the selection committee.
My guess the committee is going to see that #2 lost to #3 in a close back and forth game (that INT was the difference) and isn't going to punish them for it. Also the potential for a rematch in the semi finals could somewhat influence the decision.

FCS beating any FBS team is considered a quality win. That win over Army will be weighed very favorably

[onceacat]

Craig Haley's bracket would be an absolute dream

https://theanalyst.com/articles/fcs-pla ... sunday-eve

He has the Gris as a 5 seed. Oofda!
I don’t know that they dropped to five, but I don’t see how they can stay at 3 either. They were ranked third by the selection committee previously and lost. The fourth ranked team won and is undefeated it just seems natural to me that Lehigh would move to third and the Gris would drop to fourth. I don’t think that the close loss helps them if their close win over a terrible Eastern Washington team didn’t hurt them.

Lehigh has 2 more wins than the gris...and the same number of wins over ranked teams. Yeah, Lehigh's schedule is really weak, but they rolled pretty much everyone they played, including common opponent Sacred Heart. It would be hard NOT to give them a bump up to #3.

Tarleton has a significantly better resume than the pandas. The Texans have 2 ranked wins (West Georgia & Army) and a tougher strength of schedule than the pandas...plus one more win due to the gris game against Central Washington.

That said, you could slot those 3 teams in pretty much any order & it wouldn't be totally off base.

Again, Army does not count as a ranked win, it's cool they beat an FBS team but Army isn't exactly a powerhouse this season. Griz according to Herder has a Top 30 schedule vs Lehigh at 93, good for them they went undefeated but their SoS is a joke. Griz will at worst be #4 and honestly Tarleton and Lehigh haven't done enough at least imo to take #3 from them.

The hell it doesn't. Beating UMN sure as hell counted as a top tier win for the Cats last year.

Also, I didn't say that Lehigh had a tough scheudle. I said they have as many ranked wins as the gris with one more FCS win. And they have a common opponent, which they beat as easily as the gris. At the very least in any reasonable person's mind a 10-1 gris team is a tie with a 12-0 team with a similar best win.

Tarleton is clearly more deserving of a top 4 seed than the Pandas, though. Tougher strength of schedule. One more FCS win. An FBS win. A win against a playoff team. And a win over a bubble team, similar in quality to UMs best win against UND.

Earlier I thought that UTT and the gris were pretty much a coin flip, but after looking at UTT, it's really not even close. UTT should be the #3. Either Lehigh or UM (I think its a coin flip, but UM sells more tickets) at 4/5

[blueandgoldblitz]

I agree with what several have stated before. The committee has to make an example of the Gris for scheduling a D2 and having 8 homes games. If they don't, you run the risk of all of the higher tier schools only scheduling that way. Why play tough, interesting OOC games if you can play a bunch of cupcakes at home and not be punished for it in the committee's eyes? I'm not saying they deserve to be lower than #5, but I feel like #5 is where they belong, based on my points above. And put UC Davis in their bracket. That wouldn't be a rematch and would make for a good game

[RickRund]

I don’t remember the details but why did the gris schedule Central Washington? Did they have a late drop out by “a legit” opponent? At that stage was it just too late to schedule “a more quality” opponent, especially on that given day? Would it have been more of a benefit to just have an open date?

Thanks

[MSU Doc]

I feel so bad that Sac lost another game to a JV team.

Me too. NOT! So glad the Aggies pulled it out after a couple turnovers especially as this may be the last Causeway. Congrats on the Brawl win today (I’m not a fan of Hauck) and over the Aggies. Sellout crowd at Davis and students stormed the field. When I was a student there in the late 70’s most all students were in the library.

Congrats on the win and the 8 seed. Good luck in the playoffs. I'll be cheering for you.