Cold hard reality sinks in....

[duelalumnicat]

The Cats are just not that good. Especially without Groves, Force, King,and now Papich. Don't get me wrong. I"ll keep going to the games and cheering them on, but after today, even a .500 conference record appears unlikely. For me now, it is a one game season, and unfortunately that game is in Missoula this year.

[tampa_griz]

The Cats are just not that good. Especially without Groves, Force, King,and now Papich. Don't get me wrong. I"ll keep going to the games and cheering them on, but after today, even a .500 conference record appears unlikely. For me now, it is a one game season, and unfortunately that game is in Missoula this year.

I'm thoroughly convinced that this attitude is one of the reasons MSU hasn't been able to step it up a knotch thus far. Most MSU fans are satisfied with a win over us. That would never be enough in Missoula. You have to win....and win.....and win....and win. No matter who it is. Wouldn't it be better if you won out the next eight weeks and lost in Missoula rather than lose the next eight weeks and win in Missoula? I love Griz-Cat as much as much as anyone but there's way more to a season.

Keep your heads up. It's one conference loss.

[Swilly3224]

I think hes right tampa

[tampa_griz]

I think hes right tampa

I agree that a win over us would be a great day for them Swilly. But I'm still loyal to the idea that....for the Cats.....another seven wins and one loss in November is better than another seven losses and one win in November. But I could be wrong.

[DriftCat]

The Cats are just not that good. Especially without Groves, Force, King,and now Papich. Don't get me wrong. I"ll keep going to the games and cheering them on, but after today, even a .500 conference record appears unlikely. For me now, it is a one game season, and unfortunately that game is in Missoula this year.

I'm thoroughly convinced that this attitude is one of the reasons MSU hasn't been able to step it up a knotch thus far. Most MSU fans are satisfied with a win over us. That would never be enough in Missoula. You have to win....and win.....and win....and win. No matter who it is. Wouldn't it be better if you won out the next eight weeks and lost in Missoula rather than lose the next eight weeks and win in Missoula? I love Griz-Cat as much as much as anyone but there's way more to a season.

Keep your heads up. It's one conference loss.

To say that MSU fans are satisfied as long as we beat the griz is just plain silly. Of course we want more out of our team unfortunately what we want and what we are getting are nowhere near the same. From the looks of our team so far it would be a miracle if we could win out until Cat-griz. I would gladly trade winning every football game we have left up until Nov. 18 and then take a loss. That would mean that we would only have two conference losses and would be in the hunt for the BSC.

[Platinumcat]

The Cats are just not that good. Especially without Groves, Force, King,and now Papich. Don't get me wrong. I"ll keep going to the games and cheering them on, but after today, even a .500 conference record appears unlikely. For me now, it is a one game season, and unfortunately that game is in Missoula this year.

I'm thoroughly convinced that this attitude is one of the reasons MSU hasn't been able to step it up a knotch thus far. Most MSU fans are satisfied with a win over us. That would never be enough in Missoula. You have to win....and win.....and win....and win. No matter who it is. Wouldn't it be better if you won out the next eight weeks and lost in Missoula rather than lose the next eight weeks and win in Missoula? I love Griz-Cat as much as much as anyone but there's way more to a season.

Keep your heads up. It's one conference loss.

Tampa,
With all due respect, you are wrong. There may have been a day that all we, as Cat fans, wanted was a win against the Griz. It is true that we still value that game and all that it has come to mean. But, in the past six years this program has moved beyond that in it's season focus. Certainly the fans have...how else do you explain the nature of all of the posts on this site in the past two weeks? We, as Cat fans, are all wanting to see this program move to the next level which is consistently making the playoffs, making deep runs in the playoffs, bringing home a national championship. The arguement on here right now is whether or not our current staff is capable of doing that (yes I think they are).
I certainly thank you for your final comment with regards to keeping our heads up. It's just been a tough three weeks for our beloved Bobcats and their fans.

[duelalumnicat]

So tampa, I see you are already starting to spin a potential Griz loss on November 18th. I guess that 's what happens to the Grizzly faithful's "win...and win...and win...and win" attitude when the Grizzlies lose three out of the last four Cat-Griz football games. As for the rest of the Cats' season, I am entitled to my opinion. I am a loyal Bobcat Booster who buys season football and basketball tickets every year. I am also a Montana native with degrees from both MSU and UM. I actually live in Montana (Bozeman) ,and I attend almost all of the Bobcat home games. I truly live and die with the Bobcats every week. The last thing I need today after this Bobcat loss is to be lectured about my bad attitude by some pompous out of state Griz fan. So as for your pep talk, thanks. But no thanks.

[catsrback76]

I think hes right tampa

I agree that a win over us would be a great day for them Swilly. But I'm still loyal to the idea that....for the Cats.....another seven wins and one loss in November is better than another seven losses and one win in November. But I could be wrong.

Tampa and Swilly-- IF you really think that most Cat fans, and the players themselves would prefer to win only one game against the griz and lose all others, I have great mountain scenery land for sale in Florida for ya. Don't patronize us by generalizing around the one win that would be the greatest emotional victory of the year outside of beating CU in a year like this one where we are obviously now rebuilding. It is fun to beat you, but you are not that important to our program...period.

[theblackgecko]

I think hes right tampa

I agree that a win over us would be a great day for them Swilly. But I'm still loyal to the idea that....for the Cats.....another seven wins and one loss in November is better than another seven losses and one win in November. But I could be wrong.

Tampa and Swilly-- IF you really think that most Cat fans, and the players themselves would prefer to win only one game against the griz and lose all others, I have great mountain scenery land for sale in Florida for ya. Don't patronize us by generalizing around the one win that would be the greatest emotional victory of the year outside of beating CU in a year like this one where we are obviously now rebuilding. It is fun to beat you, but you are not that important to our program...period.

For the record, 2 of 2 posters with tags do mention the Griz in those tags.

[skizm]

So tampa, I see you are already starting to spin a potential Griz loss on November 18th. I guess that 's what happens to the Grizzly faithful's "win...and win...and win...and win" attitude when the Grizzlies lose three out of the last four Cat-Griz football games. As for the rest of the Cats' season, I am entitled to my opinion. I am a loyal Bobcat Booster who buys season football and basketball tickets every year. I am also a Montana native with degrees from both MSU and UM. I actually live in Montana (Bozeman) ,and I attend almost all of the Bobcat home games. I truly live and die with the Bobcats every week. The last thing I need today after this Bobcat loss is to be lectured about my bad attitude by some pompous out of state Griz fan. So as for your pep talk, thanks. But no thanks.

I just didn't understand what you were saying with 'one game season'.

If it's the only one you care about, then I agree with Tampa. It's hard to see otherwise, but I'll doubt a great fan like you meant it that way.

[tampa_griz]

So tampa, I see you are already starting to spin a potential Griz loss on November 18th. I guess that 's what happens to the Grizzly faithful's "win...and win...and win...and win" attitude when the Grizzlies lose three out of the last four Cat-Griz football games. As for the rest of the Cats' season, I am entitled to my opinion. I am a loyal Bobcat Booster who buys season football and basketball tickets every year. I am also a Montana native with degrees from both MSU and UM. I actually live in Montana (Bozeman) ,and I attend almost all of the Bobcat home games. I truly live and die with the Bobcats every week. The last thing I need today after this Bobcat loss is to be lectured about my bad attitude by some pompous out of state Griz fan. So as for your pep talk, thanks. But no thanks.

Oh calm down while I get you your "Most Proud and Loyal Montanan" sticker. I'm a Montana native too (Hi-Line) and hold a degree in Computer Science from UM. I continued to live in Missoula for about seven years after I graduated. I moved to Florida a few years ago for a career opportunity. Big deal.

I'm at a loss to see how you could decipher any pompousness in my post. Same goes for your spin remark. ???

The only reason I responded to your post was that it reminded me of conversations I had with a lot of my Cat friends last year. They were completely satisfied with the season after beating us. Although a year's worth of state bragging rights are great I can't believe they were content with only beating the Griz. Travis Lulay is easily one of the best (if not THE best) quarterbacks in BSC history. An appearance in the playoffs should have been nearly mandatory for Cat fans.

Now you've lost one conference game and you've already written off the next six games. You beat Colorado for cryin' out loud. There's gotta be some deep talent there. They've just had a rough couple of weeks.

All of that said, I think it would be better if the Cats play one game at a time. If the Cats start winning (and I don't see why they couldn't) and continue to win you could be playing for a BSC title in November. I sincerely hope it shakes out that way. Good luck.

[Platinumcat]

So tampa, I see you are already starting to spin a potential Griz loss on November 18th. I guess that 's what happens to the Grizzly faithful's "win...and win...and win...and win" attitude when the Grizzlies lose three out of the last four Cat-Griz football games. As for the rest of the Cats' season, I am entitled to my opinion. I am a loyal Bobcat Booster who buys season football and basketball tickets every year. I am also a Montana native with degrees from both MSU and UM. I actually live in Montana (Bozeman) ,and I attend almost all of the Bobcat home games. I truly live and die with the Bobcats every week. The last thing I need today after this Bobcat loss is to be lectured about my bad attitude by some pompous out of state Griz fan. So as for your pep talk, thanks. But no thanks.

Oh calm down while I get you your "Most Proud and Loyal Montanan" sticker. I'm a Montana native too (Hi-Line) and hold a degree in Computer Science from UM. I continued to live in Missoula for about seven years after I graduated. I moved to Florida a few years ago for a career opportunity. Big deal.

I'm at a loss to see how you could decipher any pompousness in my post. Same goes for your spin remark. ???

The only reason I responded to your post was that it reminded me of conversations I had with a lot of my Cat friends last year. They were completely satisfied with the season after beating us. Although a year's worth of state bragging rights are great I can't believe they were content with only beating the Griz. Travis Lulay is easily one of the best (if not THE best) quarterbacks in BSC history. An appearance in the playoffs should have been nearly mandatory for Cat fans.

Now you've lost one conference game and you've already written off the next six games. You beat Colorado for cryin' out loud. There's gotta be some deep talent there. They've just had a rough couple of weeks.

All of that said, I think it would be better if the Cats play one game at a time. If the Cats start winning (and I don't see why they couldn't) and continue to win you could be playing for a BSC title in November. I sincerely hope it shakes out that way. Good luck.

Tampa,
Thank you for bringing restraint and actual football talk to this board.

I find it hard to believe that anyone would have been satisfied with last year's season. We all wanted that team to go to the playoffs and we definitely felt they were good enough to do it. I'm not sure if you were reading this board last year right after the game and up until Sunday at noon when they released the playoff teams, but this board was crazy busy with bobcat fans talking about why we should be invited to the playoffs. I think a lot of Bobcat fans felt that, in our version of the truth, we deserved the spot over the Griz and/or other teams that made it in. We felt that the co-BSC title, "W" over the Griz late in the season, and the mandatory D-I wins should have put us there. But, it didn't happen. So, we were left with the bittersweet feeling of at least beating our in state rival (thus the reason for my signature).
I still stand by my previous post in saying that Bobcat fans will not be satisfied until we've reached that next level.

[tampa_griz]

So tampa, I see you are already starting to spin a potential Griz loss on November 18th. I guess that 's what happens to the Grizzly faithful's "win...and win...and win...and win" attitude when the Grizzlies lose three out of the last four Cat-Griz football games. As for the rest of the Cats' season, I am entitled to my opinion. I am a loyal Bobcat Booster who buys season football and basketball tickets every year. I am also a Montana native with degrees from both MSU and UM. I actually live in Montana (Bozeman) ,and I attend almost all of the Bobcat home games. I truly live and die with the Bobcats every week. The last thing I need today after this Bobcat loss is to be lectured about my bad attitude by some pompous out of state Griz fan. So as for your pep talk, thanks. But no thanks.

Oh calm down while I get you your "Most Proud and Loyal Montanan" sticker. I'm a Montana native too (Hi-Line) and hold a degree in Computer Science from UM. I continued to live in Missoula for about seven years after I graduated. I moved to Florida a few years ago for a career opportunity. Big deal.

I'm at a loss to see how you could decipher any pompousness in my post. Same goes for your spin remark. ???

The only reason I responded to your post was that it reminded me of conversations I had with a lot of my Cat friends last year. They were completely satisfied with the season after beating us. Although a year's worth of state bragging rights are great I can't believe they were content with only beating the Griz. Travis Lulay is easily one of the best (if not THE best) quarterbacks in BSC history. An appearance in the playoffs should have been nearly mandatory for Cat fans.

Now you've lost one conference game and you've already written off the next six games. You beat Colorado for cryin' out loud. There's gotta be some deep talent there. They've just had a rough couple of weeks.

All of that said, I think it would be better if the Cats play one game at a time. If the Cats start winning (and I don't see why they couldn't) and continue to win you could be playing for a BSC title in November. I sincerely hope it shakes out that way. Good luck.

Tampa,
Thank you for bringing restraint and actual football talk to this board.

I find it hard to believe that anyone would have been satisfied with last year's season. We all wanted that team to go to the playoffs and we definitely felt they were good enough to do it. I'm not sure if you were reading this board last year right after the game and up until Sunday at noon when they released the playoff teams, but this board was crazy busy with bobcat fans talking about why we should be invited to the playoffs. I think a lot of Bobcat fans felt that, in our version of the truth, we deserved the spot over the Griz and/or other teams that made it in. We felt that the co-BSC title, "W" over the Griz late in the season, and the mandatory D-I wins should have put us there. But, it didn't happen. So, we were left with the bittersweet feeling of at least beating our in state rival (thus the reason for my signature).
I still stand by my previous post in saying that Bobcat fans will not be satisfied until we've reached that next level.

I came nowhere near the boards after you beat us....for obvious reasons. I think if you would have beaten PSU last year (great effort and great game) you would have easily made it in before us. Having that fourth regular-season loss is usually a killer though. Which is a shame cuz the Big Sky was (as far as I could tell) the toughest conference by far that year.

Although yesterday's loss sucks I recognized improvement as I listened to it. Wasn't Carpenter 19-23? Maybe that's nothing to write home about but you've got to encourage and appreciate an improving offense.

I think you should be able to beat NA next week. Murietta hasn't had you're number yet I don't think. We've got PSU at PGE......that damn place makes every Griz fan pretty nervous.

[duelalumnicat]

OK,after further review, I apologize to the Board (and, yes, even to tampagriz) for my overly harsh second post yesterday. I should know better than to post immediately following a disappointing Bobcat loss. Of course I hope the Bobcats win out, though I think it is unlikely. No, I would not be satisfied with the Bobcat football program if the only thing the Cats accomplish during the remainder of the season is to beat the Griz. Yes, I agree that on occaison Bobcat fans (such as myself) unreasonably overemphasize a Cat victory over the Griz. (Though I also find it humorous when, on occaison, Griz fans minimize a Griz loss to the Cats.) I am sorry if I offended anyone. I really do live and die with the Cats each week, and sometimes I get carried away.

[tampa_griz]

OK,after further review, I apologize to the Board (and, yes, even to tampagriz) for my overly harsh second post yesterday. I should know better than to post immediately following a disappointing Bobcat loss. Of course I hope the Bobcats win out, though I think it is unlikely. No, I would not be satisfied with the Bobcat football program if the only thing the Cats accomplish during the remainder of the season is to beat the Griz. Yes, I agree that on occaison Bobcat fans (such as myself) unreasonably overemphasize a Cat victory over the Griz. (Though I also find it humorous when, on occaison, Griz fans minimize a Griz loss to the Cats.) I am sorry if I offended anyone. I really do live and die with the Cats each week, and sometimes I get carried away.

No apologies necessary....at least to me. And I too am sick of Griz fans minimizing Cat victories over us. Pretty unclassy/pompous thing to do. As far as the rest of the season goes, you seemed to play better yesterday than the last two weeks. I wouldn't give up on Kramer and your boys just yet. One Saturday at a time.