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Re: Which DSU to root for this weekend

Post by grizzh8r » Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:39 pm

Wow, sucks for the Jacks - I really like their program, unlike NDSU - but good for the Cats. That was a home game for SDSU as well, really wonder how far they'll fall in the standings, and if they'll still be ranked higher than MSU...


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Re: Which DSU to root for this weekend

Post by coloradocat » Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:49 pm

grizzh8r wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:39 pm
Wow, sucks for the Jacks - I really like their program, unlike NDSU - but good for the Cats. That was a home game for SDSU as well, really wonder how far they'll fall in the standings, and if they'll still be ranked higher than MSU...
The important thing is that they won't be a top 2 seed now. The fight for #2 is between Tarleton and the Cat-griz winner.


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Re: Which DSU to root for this weekend

Post by tdub » Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:51 pm

coloradocat wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:49 pm
grizzh8r wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:39 pm
Wow, sucks for the Jacks - I really like their program, unlike NDSU - but good for the Cats. That was a home game for SDSU as well, really wonder how far they'll fall in the standings, and if they'll still be ranked higher than MSU...
The important thing is that they won't be a top 2 seed now. The fight for #2 is between Tarleton and the Cat-griz winner.
And if you have to go on the road on the semis, Tarleton is definitely where you’d want to be.


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Re: Which DSU to root for this weekend

Post by coloradocat » Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:58 pm

tdub wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:51 pm
coloradocat wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:49 pm
grizzh8r wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:39 pm
Wow, sucks for the Jacks - I really like their program, unlike NDSU - but good for the Cats. That was a home game for SDSU as well, really wonder how far they'll fall in the standings, and if they'll still be ranked higher than MSU...
The important thing is that they won't be a top 2 seed now. The fight for #2 is between Tarleton and the Cat-griz winner.
And if you have to go on the road on the semis, Tarleton is definitely where you’d want to be.
Yeah, 2 seed is of course preferable but 3 shouldn't be a problem. And if we happen to lose Cat-griz but it's close we might only slide down to 6 and then get Tarleton at 3.


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Re: Which DSU to root for this weekend

Post by Prodigal Cat » Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:13 am

The jacks, more than just the absolute shellacking they took yesterday, have been flat to trending down for some time. If I was a SDSU fan I’d be a bit worried that maybe the coaching hire isn’t a good one. Yeah they were without Mason but the Bison went through that defense like Swiss cheese. They are looking much worse than they did in September.


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Re: Which DSU to root for this weekend

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:44 am

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The jacks, more than just the absolute shellacking they took yesterday, have been flat to trending down for some time. If I was a SDSU fan I’d be a bit worried that maybe the coaching hire isn’t a good one. Yeah they were without Mason but the Bison went through that defense like Swiss cheese. They are looking much worse than they did in September.
I think what you said is true, and NDSU is just on a completely different level this year. They’re outstanding at every facet of the game.



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Re: Which DSU to root for this weekend

Post by Prodigal Cat » Sun Oct 26, 2025 11:13 am

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:44 am
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:13 am
The jacks, more than just the absolute shellacking they took yesterday, have been flat to trending down for some time. If I was a SDSU fan I’d be a bit worried that maybe the coaching hire isn’t a good one. Yeah they were without Mason but the Bison went through that defense like Swiss cheese. They are looking much worse than they did in September.
I think what you said is true, and NDSU is just on a completely different level this year. They’re outstanding at every facet of the game.
It will be interesting to see what happens when they go to Grand Forks in a couple weeks. If they do it to UND I’ll acknowledge we are all probably playing for second. But the Bison were up just 10-7 at the half versus a very bad Indiana St last week and every team they’ve played was in the back half of FCS defensively before yesterday. Watching that game I’d say that remains true how bad the Jacks defense was. I mean that long run by Cole Payton for a touchdown with the blatant hold had about 5 missed tackles on it. They didn’t have that many missed tackles the entire game against the Cats. Payton isn’t Tommy Mellott.


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Re: Which DSU to root for this weekend

Post by Helcat72 » Sun Oct 26, 2025 1:02 pm

First I don't think SDSU is that bad...but NDSU IS THAT GOOD! I didn't think Cole Payton was a very good QB since he was always behind Cam Miller, but he may be a better NFL prospect due to his size. He throws a very catchable ball and is deadly accurate. With that corps of receivers, they hardly ever need to run the ball to move the sticks.

I think it will be a waste of money to travel to Nashville to watch whomever gets to watch their team get destroyed. Best to wait until next year, hopefully the Bison don't have a new QB and receivers waiting to be just as good as Payton, Lance, and the other receiver...can remember his name.

The only way to go to Nashville is if we get a 4 seed and have our shot at NDSU in Fargo!


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Re: Which DSU to root for this weekend

Post by Prodigal Cat » Sun Oct 26, 2025 1:26 pm

Helcat72 wrote:
Sun Oct 26, 2025 1:02 pm
First I don't think SDSU is that bad...but NDSU IS THAT GOOD! I didn't think Cole Payton was a very good QB since he was always behind Cam Miller, but he may be a better NFL prospect due to his size. He throws a very catchable ball and is deadly accurate. With that corps of receivers, they hardly ever need to run the ball to move the sticks.

I think it will be a waste of money to travel to Nashville to watch whomever gets to watch their team get destroyed. Best to wait until next year, hopefully the Bison don't have a new QB and receivers waiting to be just as good as Payton, Lance, and the other receiver...can remember his name.

The only way to go to Nashville is if we get a 4 seed and have our shot at NDSU in Fargo!
Might be unpopular opinion but if it played out the Cats get the 4 seed and have to go to Fargo for the semifinal wouldn’t be the worst thing. Playing them with a normal week of prep and on the normal rhythm of the season instead of 3 weeks later might be preferable. At least it would get it over with and you’d know the results.


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Re: Which DSU to root for this weekend

Post by 91catAlum » Sun Oct 26, 2025 1:29 pm

coloradocat wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:49 pm
grizzh8r wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:39 pm
Wow, sucks for the Jacks - I really like their program, unlike NDSU - but good for the Cats. That was a home game for SDSU as well, really wonder how far they'll fall in the standings, and if they'll still be ranked higher than MSU...
The important thing is that they won't be a top 2 seed now. The fight for #2 is between Tarleton and the Cat-griz winner.
I'm not sure that's true. If Sdsu wins out from here, they have 1 fcs loss to #1, with ranked wins over 2 top 10 teams MSU and und, hypothetically.
If MSU also wins out with a close win over the griz, we'd have 1 fcs loss, 1 top 10 win, and head to head loss to sdsu.

Then assume a Tarleton loss also, in this scenario.

If i was on the committee with those resumes, I think I'd lean sdsu for that 2nd seed.


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Re: Which DSU to root for this weekend

Post by Long Time Cat » Sun Oct 26, 2025 1:54 pm

Write it down.
Rankings tomorrow 10/26/25:
1 bizun
2 tarleton
3 griz
4 jacks
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Re: Which DSU to root for this weekend

Post by TomCat88 » Sun Oct 26, 2025 3:37 pm

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:44 am
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:13 am
The jacks, more than just the absolute shellacking they took yesterday, have been flat to trending down for some time. If I was a SDSU fan I’d be a bit worried that maybe the coaching hire isn’t a good one. Yeah they were without Mason but the Bison went through that defense like Swiss cheese. They are looking much worse than they did in September.
I think what you said is true, and NDSU is just on a completely different level this year. They’re outstanding at every facet of the game.
Their closest game has been by 17 points.


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Re: Which DSU to root for this weekend

Post by GoldstoneCat » Sun Oct 26, 2025 3:42 pm

91catAlum wrote:
Sun Oct 26, 2025 1:29 pm
coloradocat wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:49 pm
grizzh8r wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:39 pm
Wow, sucks for the Jacks - I really like their program, unlike NDSU - but good for the Cats. That was a home game for SDSU as well, really wonder how far they'll fall in the standings, and if they'll still be ranked higher than MSU...
The important thing is that they won't be a top 2 seed now. The fight for #2 is between Tarleton and the Cat-griz winner.
I'm not sure that's true. If Sdsu wins out from here, they have 1 fcs loss to #1, with ranked wins over 2 top 10 teams MSU and und, hypothetically.
If MSU also wins out with a close win over the griz, we'd have 1 fcs loss, 1 top 10 win, and head to head loss to sdsu.

Then assume a Tarleton loss also, in this scenario.

If i was on the committee with those resumes, I think I'd lean sdsu for that 2nd seed.
This is the correct take. They are still ahead of the Cats at this point for seeding, imo. If Mason comes right back and they run the table they're either the 2 or the 3 seed. I kind of think they won't run the table, and from what their coach said he won't be back for awhile yet. We need a little bit of help, I think, to get into that 2/3 semifinal bracket. Obviously we have to run it out, and need either tarleton or sdsu to lose one more game.



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Re: Which DSU to root for this weekend

Post by catapult » Sun Oct 26, 2025 3:59 pm

I'm not sure that's true. If Sdsu wins out from here, they have 1 fcs loss to #1, with ranked wins over 2 top 10 teams MSU and und, hypothetically.
If MSU also wins out with a close win over the griz, we'd have 1 fcs loss, 1 top 10 win, and head to head loss to sdsu.

Then assume a Tarleton loss also, in this scenario.

If i was on the committee with those resumes, I think I'd lean sdsu for that 2nd seed.
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I disagree. SDSU got boat raced at home by 31 points! Would not be surprised if they drop to #5. I don’t care if we lost the head-to-head in week two. Rankings should be placed on how the teams are currently playing. If we win out, our resume will be only 1 fcs loss in 2OT by then #2 team, won on the road against then #13 NAU, beat #6 (possibly #5) UC Davis and beat #3 (possibly #2) griz. SDSU or Tarleton will not have that strong of resume…also need to consider SOS and we beat both by a wide margin. If we win out, we will be the #2 seed. Just gotta win baby and it’ll all work out.



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Re: Which DSU to root for this weekend

Post by The MICKSTER » Sun Oct 26, 2025 4:17 pm

GoldstoneCat wrote:
Sun Oct 26, 2025 3:42 pm
91catAlum wrote:
Sun Oct 26, 2025 1:29 pm
coloradocat wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:49 pm
grizzh8r wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:39 pm
Wow, sucks for the Jacks - I really like their program, unlike NDSU - but good for the Cats. That was a home game for SDSU as well, really wonder how far they'll fall in the standings, and if they'll still be ranked higher than MSU...
The important thing is that they won't be a top 2 seed now. The fight for #2 is between Tarleton and the Cat-griz winner.
I'm not sure that's true. If Sdsu wins out from here, they have 1 fcs loss to #1, with ranked wins over 2 top 10 teams MSU and und, hypothetically.
If MSU also wins out with a close win over the griz, we'd have 1 fcs loss, 1 top 10 win, and head to head loss to sdsu.

Then assume a Tarleton loss also, in this scenario.

If i was on the committee with those resumes, I think I'd lean sdsu for that 2nd seed.
This is the correct take. They are still ahead of the Cats at this point for seeding, imo. If Mason comes right back and they run the table they're either the 2 or the 3 seed. I kind of think they won't run the table, and from what their coach said he won't be back for awhile yet. We need a little bit of help, I think, to get into that 2/3 semifinal bracket. Obviously we have to run it out, and need either tarleton or sdsu to lose one more game.
Tarleton plays in the United Athletic Conference, their remaining games are in order.....@Abilene Christian, bye, North Alabama, Austin Peay. They won't lose at home to North Alabama but could lose to Austin Peay, who's currently ranked 3rd in the UAC. However, their most likely loss will be this coming weekend SA Nov 1st @Abilene Christian who's currently ranked 2nd in the UAC.

SDSU remaining games in order are Indiana State, @South Dakota, Illinois State & @North Dakota. I suppose without Mason there's a chance they could lose 3 of them, but not Indiana State.

The gris have @Weber, EWU, @PSU before the Brawl. I think Glacier High School could sweep those 3 teams. So their only realistic chance for a loss is the Brawl.

Of course the CATS remaining games are @UNC, Weber, #6UCD, @#4um. IF the CATS win out, we'll be ahead of the gris. IF SDSU loses another game I think we'll be ahead of them. However, I think it's unlikely that we would jump Tarleton IF they win out, since we would have 1 FBS loss & 1 FCS loss.....but with our SoS and having beaten both the #6 & #4 FCS teams I suppose it's possible.



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Re: Which DSU to root for this weekend

Post by GoldstoneCat » Mon Oct 27, 2025 8:21 am

The MICKSTER wrote:
Sun Oct 26, 2025 4:17 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Sun Oct 26, 2025 3:42 pm
91catAlum wrote:
Sun Oct 26, 2025 1:29 pm
coloradocat wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:49 pm
grizzh8r wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:39 pm
Wow, sucks for the Jacks - I really like their program, unlike NDSU - but good for the Cats. That was a home game for SDSU as well, really wonder how far they'll fall in the standings, and if they'll still be ranked higher than MSU...
The important thing is that they won't be a top 2 seed now. The fight for #2 is between Tarleton and the Cat-griz winner.
I'm not sure that's true. If Sdsu wins out from here, they have 1 fcs loss to #1, with ranked wins over 2 top 10 teams MSU and und, hypothetically.
If MSU also wins out with a close win over the griz, we'd have 1 fcs loss, 1 top 10 win, and head to head loss to sdsu.

Then assume a Tarleton loss also, in this scenario.

If i was on the committee with those resumes, I think I'd lean sdsu for that 2nd seed.
This is the correct take. They are still ahead of the Cats at this point for seeding, imo. If Mason comes right back and they run the table they're either the 2 or the 3 seed. I kind of think they won't run the table, and from what their coach said he won't be back for awhile yet. We need a little bit of help, I think, to get into that 2/3 semifinal bracket. Obviously we have to run it out, and need either tarleton or sdsu to lose one more game.
Tarleton plays in the United Athletic Conference, their remaining games are in order.....@Abilene Christian, bye, North Alabama, Austin Peay. They won't lose at home to North Alabama but could lose to Austin Peay, who's currently ranked 3rd in the UAC. However, their most likely loss will be this coming weekend SA Nov 1st @Abilene Christian who's currently ranked 2nd in the UAC.

SDSU remaining games in order are Indiana State, @South Dakota, Illinois State & @North Dakota. I suppose without Mason there's a chance they could lose 3 of them, but not Indiana State.

The gris have @Weber, EWU, @PSU before the Brawl. I think Glacier High School could sweep those 3 teams. So their only realistic chance for a loss is the Brawl.

Of course the CATS remaining games are @UNC, Weber, #6UCD, @#4um. IF the CATS win out, we'll be ahead of the gris. IF SDSU loses another game I think we'll be ahead of them. However, I think it's unlikely that we would jump Tarleton IF they win out, since we would have 1 FBS loss & 1 FCS loss.....but with our SoS and having beaten both the #6 & #4 FCS teams I suppose it's possible.
Yep that's the question, how the committee views them and their schedule vs. Ours. But I'm not a bit afraid of a 2/3 road semifinal at tarleton if they advanced that far. We obviously need to avoid the 4/5 corner if at all possible.



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Re: Which DSU to root for this weekend

Post by onceacat » Mon Oct 27, 2025 10:21 am

91catAlum wrote:
Sun Oct 26, 2025 1:29 pm
coloradocat wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:49 pm
grizzh8r wrote:
Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:39 pm
Wow, sucks for the Jacks - I really like their program, unlike NDSU - but good for the Cats. That was a home game for SDSU as well, really wonder how far they'll fall in the standings, and if they'll still be ranked higher than MSU...
The important thing is that they won't be a top 2 seed now. The fight for #2 is between Tarleton and the Cat-griz winner.
I'm not sure that's true. If Sdsu wins out from here, they have 1 fcs loss to #1, with ranked wins over 2 top 10 teams MSU and und, hypothetically.
If MSU also wins out with a close win over the griz, we'd have 1 fcs loss, 1 top 10 win, and head to head loss to sdsu.

Then assume a Tarleton loss also, in this scenario.

If i was on the committee with those resumes, I think I'd lean sdsu for that 2nd seed.
The committee is likely to look for reasons to avoid putting MVFC teams 1-2. Someone pointed out on one of these threads that its never happened before. Likely they will also have motivated reasoning to avoid slotting the Jacks in the #4 slot to avoid a rematch of the Marker in the semis.



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