Cale Breslin commits

[TomCat88]

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I like his strength. Not every back needs to be a burner. Sometimes you need that guy who puts his knee in the LB guts and stiff arms for 3-5 yards.

Might explain his low* ypa. If he was the short yardage/goal line guy it would’ve drug that down.

*most high end HS RBs are in the 7-8+ area.

Breslin was 6.7 YPC as a junior and 6.0 as a senior following an early hamstring injury. His average as a sophomore has brought down his overall. Seems like the numerous schools that offered him weren’t very concerned about his “low” YPC.

It can be a telltale sign when HS RBs have “low” ypas and also struggle vs the good teams. Obviously, I’ve never seen him play. Might be nothing but I’ve seen this before so not going all in on him at this early juncture. Very up and down statistically, which might not mean much. For instance, he may have been called on four times from the one before punching it in. Or his line might not have been very good. Hard to say for sure but something to watch. If he needs to develop in a few areas, he came to the right place.

[coloradocat]

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I like his strength. Not every back needs to be a burner. Sometimes you need that guy who puts his knee in the LB guts and stiff arms for 3-5 yards.

Might explain his low* ypa. If he was the short yardage/goal line guy it would’ve drug that down.

*most high end HS RBs are in the 7-8+ area.

Breslin was 6.7 YPC as a junior and 6.0 as a senior following an early hamstring injury. His average as a sophomore has brought down his overall. Seems like the numerous schools that offered him weren’t very concerned about his “low” YPC.

It can be a telltale sign when HS RBs have “low” ypas and also struggle vs the good teams. Obviously, I’ve never seen him play. Might be nothing but I’ve seen this before so not going all in on him at this early juncture. Very up and down statistically, which might not mean much. For instance, he may have been called on four times from the one before punching it in. Or his line might not have been very good. Hard to say for sure but something to watch. If he needs to develop in a few areas, he came to the right place.

He hasn't even stepped on campus and Tom is already saying he sucks.

[TomCat88]

loop
I like his strength. Not every back needs to be a burner. Sometimes you need that guy who puts his knee in the LB guts and stiff arms for 3-5 yards.

Might explain his low* ypa. If he was the short yardage/goal line guy it would’ve drug that down.

*most high end HS RBs are in the 7-8+ area.

Breslin was 6.7 YPC as a junior and 6.0 as a senior following an early hamstring injury. His average as a sophomore has brought down his overall. Seems like the numerous schools that offered him weren’t very concerned about his “low” YPC.

It can be a telltale sign when HS RBs have “low” ypas and also struggle vs the good teams. Obviously, I’ve never seen him play. Might be nothing but I’ve seen this before so not going all in on him at this early juncture. Very up and down statistically, which might not mean much. For instance, he may have been called on four times from the one before punching it in. Or his line might not have been very good. Hard to say for sure but something to watch. If he needs to develop in a few areas, he came to the right place.

He hasn't even stepped on campus and Tom is already saying he sucks.

Yeah, but I say that about everyone.

[Lord Vigo]

In 2024, 6 Bobcats had 40 or more carries, totaling 655 between them (41/game). The run/pass split was 69/31.

In 2023, 6 Bobcats had 34 or more carries, totaling 430 between them (36/game). The run/pass split was 67/33.

In 2022, 6 Bobcats had 32 or more carries, totaling 573 between them (41/game). The run/pass split was 69/31.

Heading into 2025, they have lost Humphrey (199 carries) and Mellott (123 carries), for a total of 322 lost carries (20/game).

I think it's fair to assume that the run/pass split will even a touch, but I doubt it will be huge. Vigen still believes in the running game as the foundation of the offense. I would conservatively estimate something around 65/35, so maybe you're only truly replacing 15 carries game. I would estimate 36 carries per game. I'll guess they play 14 games for 504 total carries.

Returning from last season, they have:

Adam Jones (184 carries in 2024)
Colson Coon (63 carries in 2024)
Jared White (46 carries in 2024)
Julius Davis (40 carries in 2024)

Whoever lands at QB (my guess is Lamson, but Wilson is possible) will contribute some carries, but likely nothing close to Tommy. Davis will increase, providing he stays healthy and Coon should be able to handle more.

All that to say, I think there's a real role in 2024 for a 6th runner and Breslin could be that player (or he could beat out White and White could be that player, while Breslin has an even larger role).

[BLACKnBLUEnGOLD]

I still think Jared White is going to be really good

[Lord Vigo]

I still think Jared White is going to be really good

Maybe! I hope so. But he keeps getting passed on the depth chart.

[allcat]

In 2024, 6 Bobcats had 40 or more carries, totaling 655 between them (41/game). The run/pass split was 69/31.

In 2023, 6 Bobcats had 34 or more carries, totaling 430 between them (36/game). The run/pass split was 67/33.

In 2022, 6 Bobcats had 32 or more carries, totaling 573 between them (41/game). The run/pass split was 69/31.

Heading into 2025, they have lost Humphrey (199 carries) and Mellott (123 carries), for a total of 322 lost carries (20/game).

I think it's fair to assume that the run/pass split will even a touch, but I doubt it will be huge. Vigen still believes in the running game as the foundation of the offense. I would conservatively estimate something around 65/35, so maybe you're only truly replacing 15 carries game. I would estimate 36 carries per game. I'll guess they play 14 games for 504 total carries.

Returning from last season, they have:

Adam Jones (184 carries in 2024)
Colson Coon (63 carries in 2024)
Jared White (46 carries in 2024)
Julius Davis (40 carries in 2024)

Whoever lands at QB (my guess is Lamson, but Wilson is possible) will contribute some carries, but likely nothing close to Tommy. Davis will increase, providing he stays healthy and Coon should be able to handle more.

All that to say, I think there's a real role in 2024 for a 6th runner and Breslin could be that player (or he could beat out White and White could be that player, while Breslin has an even larger role).

I love Adam but I think he works better when, those bigger guys soften them up a little.

[Lord Vigo]

In 2024, 6 Bobcats had 40 or more carries, totaling 655 between them (41/game). The run/pass split was 69/31.

In 2023, 6 Bobcats had 34 or more carries, totaling 430 between them (36/game). The run/pass split was 67/33.

In 2022, 6 Bobcats had 32 or more carries, totaling 573 between them (41/game). The run/pass split was 69/31.

Heading into 2025, they have lost Humphrey (199 carries) and Mellott (123 carries), for a total of 322 lost carries (20/game).

I think it's fair to assume that the run/pass split will even a touch, but I doubt it will be huge. Vigen still believes in the running game as the foundation of the offense. I would conservatively estimate something around 65/35, so maybe you're only truly replacing 15 carries game. I would estimate 36 carries per game. I'll guess they play 14 games for 504 total carries.

Returning from last season, they have:

Adam Jones (184 carries in 2024)
Colson Coon (63 carries in 2024)
Jared White (46 carries in 2024)
Julius Davis (40 carries in 2024)

Whoever lands at QB (my guess is Lamson, but Wilson is possible) will contribute some carries, but likely nothing close to Tommy. Davis will increase, providing he stays healthy and Coon should be able to handle more.

All that to say, I think there's a real role in 2024 for a 6th runner and Breslin could be that player (or he could beat out White and White could be that player, while Breslin has an even larger role).

I love Adam but I think he works better when, those bigger guys soften them up a little.

I wouldn't disagree that Jones works best with complements, but I also expect him to be the biggest back on the roster this season.

[catatac]

In 2024, 6 Bobcats had 40 or more carries, totaling 655 between them (41/game). The run/pass split was 69/31.

In 2023, 6 Bobcats had 34 or more carries, totaling 430 between them (36/game). The run/pass split was 67/33.

In 2022, 6 Bobcats had 32 or more carries, totaling 573 between them (41/game). The run/pass split was 69/31.

Heading into 2025, they have lost Humphrey (199 carries) and Mellott (123 carries), for a total of 322 lost carries (20/game).

I think it's fair to assume that the run/pass split will even a touch, but I doubt it will be huge. Vigen still believes in the running game as the foundation of the offense. I would conservatively estimate something around 65/35, so maybe you're only truly replacing 15 carries game. I would estimate 36 carries per game. I'll guess they play 14 games for 504 total carries.

Returning from last season, they have:

Adam Jones (184 carries in 2024)
Colson Coon (63 carries in 2024)
Jared White (46 carries in 2024)
Julius Davis (40 carries in 2024)

Whoever lands at QB (my guess is Lamson, but Wilson is possible) will contribute some carries, but likely nothing close to Tommy. Davis will increase, providing he stays healthy and Coon should be able to handle more.

All that to say, I think there's a real role in 2024 for a 6th runner and Breslin could be that player (or he could beat out White and White could be that player, while Breslin has an even larger role).

I love Adam but I think he works better when, those bigger guys soften them up a little.

I wouldn't disagree that Jones works best with complements, but I also expect him to be the biggest back on the roster this season.

I was gonna say, Adam Jones is a big back, and will likely be a bit heavier in 2025.

[catatac]

In 2024, 6 Bobcats had 40 or more carries, totaling 655 between them (41/game). The run/pass split was 69/31.

In 2023, 6 Bobcats had 34 or more carries, totaling 430 between them (36/game). The run/pass split was 67/33.

In 2022, 6 Bobcats had 32 or more carries, totaling 573 between them (41/game). The run/pass split was 69/31.

Heading into 2025, they have lost Humphrey (199 carries) and Mellott (123 carries), for a total of 322 lost carries (20/game).

I think it's fair to assume that the run/pass split will even a touch, but I doubt it will be huge. Vigen still believes in the running game as the foundation of the offense. I would conservatively estimate something around 65/35, so maybe you're only truly replacing 15 carries game. I would estimate 36 carries per game. I'll guess they play 14 games for 504 total carries.

Returning from last season, they have:

Adam Jones (184 carries in 2024)
Colson Coon (63 carries in 2024)
Jared White (46 carries in 2024)
Julius Davis (40 carries in 2024)

Whoever lands at QB (my guess is Lamson, but Wilson is possible) will contribute some carries, but likely nothing close to Tommy. Davis will increase, providing he stays healthy and Coon should be able to handle more.

All that to say, I think there's a real role in 2024 for a 6th runner and Breslin could be that player (or he could beat out White and White could be that player, while Breslin has an even larger role).

Good research. I might disagree with the part I bolded above, but we'll see. If you're talking Tommy's early years, totally agree. Just looking at 2024 though, Didn't we establish that there really weren't that many designed runs for Tommy? I think we\Vigen is always going to have some designed QB run plays. Of course that largely depends on who ends up starting at QB but they'll run the ball a few times regardless.

[Lord Vigo]

In 2024, 6 Bobcats had 40 or more carries, totaling 655 between them (41/game). The run/pass split was 69/31.

In 2023, 6 Bobcats had 34 or more carries, totaling 430 between them (36/game). The run/pass split was 67/33.

In 2022, 6 Bobcats had 32 or more carries, totaling 573 between them (41/game). The run/pass split was 69/31.

Heading into 2025, they have lost Humphrey (199 carries) and Mellott (123 carries), for a total of 322 lost carries (20/game).

I think it's fair to assume that the run/pass split will even a touch, but I doubt it will be huge. Vigen still believes in the running game as the foundation of the offense. I would conservatively estimate something around 65/35, so maybe you're only truly replacing 15 carries game. I would estimate 36 carries per game. I'll guess they play 14 games for 504 total carries.

Returning from last season, they have:

Adam Jones (184 carries in 2024)
Colson Coon (63 carries in 2024)
Jared White (46 carries in 2024)
Julius Davis (40 carries in 2024)

Whoever lands at QB (my guess is Lamson, but Wilson is possible) will contribute some carries, but likely nothing close to Tommy. Davis will increase, providing he stays healthy and Coon should be able to handle more.

All that to say, I think there's a real role in 2024 for a 6th runner and Breslin could be that player (or he could beat out White and White could be that player, while Breslin has an even larger role).

Good research. I might disagree with the part I bolded above, but we'll see. If you're talking Tommy's early years, totally agree. Just looking at 2024 though, Didn't we establish that there really weren't that many designed runs for Tommy? I think we\Vigen is always going to have some designed QB run plays. Of course that largely depends on who ends up starting at QB but they'll run the ball a few times regardless.

Tommy ran the ball 123 times. While definitely a step back from previous seasons, that's still a big number. I would guess that the next QB, even if they have some running ability, would tend more towards 50-75 carries.

However, I could totally be wrong about that. Lamson and/or Wilson could have more dynamism than I'm projecting and prove to be a bigger weapon in that regard. It's all speculation at this point.

[94VegasCat]

Chance Wilson may not be the starter but I’m sure he’ll play a ton. As for his speed, I do believe he was a multi time state champ sprinter in Oklahoma.

[BelligerentBobcat]

Chance Wilson may not be the starter but I’m sure he’ll play a ton. As for his speed, I do believe he was a multi time state champ sprinter in Oklahoma.

Why do you think he’ll play a ton if he’s not the starter? You think they go to a rotation or a 2-QB system?

[catatac]

In 2024, 6 Bobcats had 40 or more carries, totaling 655 between them (41/game). The run/pass split was 69/31.

In 2023, 6 Bobcats had 34 or more carries, totaling 430 between them (36/game). The run/pass split was 67/33.

In 2022, 6 Bobcats had 32 or more carries, totaling 573 between them (41/game). The run/pass split was 69/31.

Heading into 2025, they have lost Humphrey (199 carries) and Mellott (123 carries), for a total of 322 lost carries (20/game).

I think it's fair to assume that the run/pass split will even a touch, but I doubt it will be huge. Vigen still believes in the running game as the foundation of the offense. I would conservatively estimate something around 65/35, so maybe you're only truly replacing 15 carries game. I would estimate 36 carries per game. I'll guess they play 14 games for 504 total carries.

Returning from last season, they have:

Adam Jones (184 carries in 2024)
Colson Coon (63 carries in 2024)
Jared White (46 carries in 2024)
Julius Davis (40 carries in 2024)

Whoever lands at QB (my guess is Lamson, but Wilson is possible) will contribute some carries, but likely nothing close to Tommy. Davis will increase, providing he stays healthy and Coon should be able to handle more.

All that to say, I think there's a real role in 2024 for a 6th runner and Breslin could be that player (or he could beat out White and White could be that player, while Breslin has an even larger role).

Good research. I might disagree with the part I bolded above, but we'll see. If you're talking Tommy's early years, totally agree. Just looking at 2024 though, Didn't we establish that there really weren't that many designed runs for Tommy? I think we\Vigen is always going to have some designed QB run plays. Of course that largely depends on who ends up starting at QB but they'll run the ball a few times regardless.

Tommy ran the ball 123 times. While definitely a step back from previous seasons, that's still a big number. I would guess that the next QB, even if they have some running ability, would tend more towards 50-75 carries.

However, I could totally be wrong about that. Lamson and/or Wilson could have more dynamism than I'm projecting and prove to be a bigger weapon in that regard. It's all speculation at this point.

So that would be about 7.7 runs per game for Tommy. I'm guessing a bunch of those were not designed runs... so maybe 5 or 6 designed runs? I know "designed runs" is kinda tough to quantify due to all of the RPO stuff, so we'll see. I do love the running QB threat in the offense and I'm guessing that will be a key component to any Vigen team, as long as you have a QB that can run it effectively.

[94VegasCat]

Chance Wilson may not be the starter but I’m sure he’ll play a ton. As for his speed, I do believe he was a multi time state champ sprinter in Oklahoma.

Why do you think he’ll play a ton if he’s not the starter? You think they go to a rotation or a 2-QB system?

I don’t have any secret well informed backroom info. Just a hunch. Keep everyone healthy. Wilson played a ton last year in mop up duty.

[BelligerentBobcat]

Chance Wilson may not be the starter but I’m sure he’ll play a ton. As for his speed, I do believe he was a multi time state champ sprinter in Oklahoma.

Why do you think he’ll play a ton if he’s not the starter? You think they go to a rotation or a 2-QB system?

I don’t have any secret well informed backroom info. Just a hunch. Keep everyone healthy. Wilson played a ton last year in mop up duty.

Sure, I was more just curious your rationale.

I don’t see them going to a 2 QB system. I could see them doing a rotation until they pick a definite starter, but that’s about it.

[TomCat88]

Chance Wilson may not be the starter but I’m sure he’ll play a ton. As for his speed, I do believe he was a multi time state champ sprinter in Oklahoma.

Why do you think he’ll play a ton if he’s not the starter? You think they go to a rotation or a 2-QB system?

I don’t have any secret well informed backroom info. Just a hunch. Keep everyone healthy. Wilson played a ton last year in mop up duty.

Sure, I was more just curious your rationale.

I don’t see them going to a 2 QB system. I could see them doing a rotation until they pick a definite starter, but that’s about it.

Man, it would be crazy (in a fun way) if they did that. I don't see it happening but who knows. Lamson is definitely a running QB that can go inside, Wilson can get outside. Not really sure what Duchien's best running knack would be.

My take from spring scrimmage was the development of a short/middle pass game. Last year they worked on short passes in the flat and to the sidelines during spring/fall. So hard to say how much they'll rely on QB's running on designed run plays this year with the turnover at the position. Wilson didn't exhibit a desire to run last year despite being encouraged to do so from what I'm told. But he can definitely take off with it when things breakdown.

With all they went through with injuries it just seems like the coaches might want to diminish that by make a couple subtle changes. There was a definite "look" to the scrimmage that makes me think the coaches recognize, obviously, that the player(s) at the position aren't the same but that they other attributes that will make them effective. Might be trending to more passing out of the zone read. ???

[VimSince03]

Chance Wilson may not be the starter but I’m sure he’ll play a ton. As for his speed, I do believe he was a multi time state champ sprinter in Oklahoma.

Why do you think he’ll play a ton if he’s not the starter? You think they go to a rotation or a 2-QB system?

I don’t have any secret well informed backroom info. Just a hunch. Keep everyone healthy. Wilson played a ton last year in mop up duty.

Sure, I was more just curious your rationale.

I don’t see them going to a 2 QB system. I could see them doing a rotation until they pick a definite starter, but that’s about it.

Man, it would be crazy (in a fun way) if they did that. I don't see it happening but who knows. Lamson is definitely a running QB that can go inside, Wilson can get outside. Not really sure what Duchien's best running knack would be.

My take from spring scrimmage was the development of a short/middle pass game. Last year they worked on short passes in the flat and to the sidelines during spring/fall. So hard to say how much they'll rely on QB's running on designed run plays this year with the turnover at the position. Wilson didn't exhibit a desire to run last year despite being encouraged to do so from what I'm told. But he can definitely take off with it when things breakdown.

With all they went through with injuries it just seems like the coaches might want to diminish that by make a couple subtle changes. There was a definite "look" to the scrimmage that makes me think the coaches recognize, obviously, that the player(s) at the position aren't the same but that they other attributes that will make them effective. Might be trending to more passing out of the zone read. ???

The "quick slant" hive of fans is buzzing!

@Common Cat

[Common Cat]

Chance Wilson may not be the starter but I’m sure he’ll play a ton. As for his speed, I do believe he was a multi time state champ sprinter in Oklahoma.

Why do you think he’ll play a ton if he’s not the starter? You think they go to a rotation or a 2-QB system?

I don’t have any secret well informed backroom info. Just a hunch. Keep everyone healthy. Wilson played a ton last year in mop up duty.

Sure, I was more just curious your rationale.

I don’t see them going to a 2 QB system. I could see them doing a rotation until they pick a definite starter, but that’s about it.

Man, it would be crazy (in a fun way) if they did that. I don't see it happening but who knows. Lamson is definitely a running QB that can go inside, Wilson can get outside. Not really sure what Duchien's best running knack would be.

My take from spring scrimmage was the development of a short/middle pass game. Last year they worked on short passes in the flat and to the sidelines during spring/fall. So hard to say how much they'll rely on QB's running on designed run plays this year with the turnover at the position. Wilson didn't exhibit a desire to run last year despite being encouraged to do so from what I'm told. But he can definitely take off with it when things breakdown.

With all they went through with injuries it just seems like the coaches might want to diminish that by make a couple subtle changes. There was a definite "look" to the scrimmage that makes me think the coaches recognize, obviously, that the player(s) at the position aren't the same but that they other attributes that will make them effective. Might be trending to more passing out of the zone read. ???

The "quick slant" hive of fans is buzzing!

@Common Cat

I’ll believe it when I see it!

[94VegasCat]

Chance Wilson may not be the starter but I’m sure he’ll play a ton. As for his speed, I do believe he was a multi time state champ sprinter in Oklahoma.

Why do you think he’ll play a ton if he’s not the starter? You think they go to a rotation or a 2-QB system?

I don’t have any secret well informed backroom info. Just a hunch. Keep everyone healthy. Wilson played a ton last year in mop up duty.

Sure, I was more just curious your rationale.

I don’t see them going to a 2 QB system. I could see them doing a rotation until they pick a definite starter, but that’s about it.

Man, it would be crazy (in a fun way) if they did that. I don't see it happening but who knows. Lamson is definitely a running QB that can go inside, Wilson can get outside. Not really sure what Duchien's best running knack would be.

My take from spring scrimmage was the development of a short/middle pass game. Last year they worked on short passes in the flat and to the sidelines during spring/fall. So hard to say how much they'll rely on QB's running on designed run plays this year with the turnover at the position. Wilson didn't exhibit a desire to run last year despite being encouraged to do so from what I'm told. But he can definitely take off with it when things breakdown.

With all they went through with injuries it just seems like the coaches might want to diminish that by make a couple subtle changes. There was a definite "look" to the scrimmage that makes me think the coaches recognize, obviously, that the player(s) at the position aren't the same but that they other attributes that will make them effective. Might be trending to more passing out of the zone read. ???

The "quick slant" hive of fans is buzzing!

@Common Cat

I’ll believe it when I see it!

I could probably count the number of passes over the middle by the Cats, on one hand for the past decade. Not deep posts, but dink/dunk crossing route pattern.