UCD v USD

[Montanabob]

Playoffs are over for UCD - What date do they announce moving to the MW in Football?
I'm going with 19 Dec 2024.

[BleedingBLue]

Portal aside, UCD will lose via graduation:

-QB1 (Hastings)
-RB1 (Larison-- also their leading receiver)
-RB2 (Perez)
-TE1 (Winston)
-TE2 (Gale)
-Every WR with over 15 receptions except one (Hutton, Davis, Tomkins)
-Multiple starters on the offensive line
-Bains, Kennedy, Bearden, Sarac, Cloyd, Toki, Amone, and others on defense

Most of the rest of their best defenders have one season left-- the portal could really hurt them there if those guys feel a rebuild coming on.

The Aggies will take a big step back next season.

I had thought that the main competition for MSU next year in-conference would be Idaho, but now that Eck is gone and all their guys are portalling, that seems unlikely. I guess Montana will be the closest? Or maybe NAU?

Idaho was it. ISU, NAU should be better but as bad as is looks over the hill right now they will probably be #2. Cats are the prohibitive favorite next fall.

OK but the Cats have huge losses this year too.
Mellott
Julius Davis - Can come back
Ty McCullough - Trimble
Lonergan - Jones, Provience, Schlepp
Marcus Wehr - Rollins, Mastel (already starting)
JT Reed - See above
Justus Perkins

Brode Grebe - Crews, Parsons
Simeon Woodard - Carr, McMillan
Rylan Ortt - C. Dowler, Pottenger, Taki U, Steel (hurt early in the year)
Miles Jackson - Gray
Danny U - Been out over half the season and Grebe/Daily have been great
Blake Schmitt - Same as Danny

Tommy Sullivan
Brendan Hall

Not to mention some standouts on offense who may chase the money in the portal.

There is a guy ready to step in for nearly every guy listed above. And every one of them has got significant playing time this year.

[BelligerentBobcat]

Portal aside, UCD will lose via graduation:

-QB1 (Hastings)
-RB1 (Larison-- also their leading receiver)
-RB2 (Perez)
-TE1 (Winston)
-TE2 (Gale)
-Every WR with over 15 receptions except one (Hutton, Davis, Tomkins)
-Multiple starters on the offensive line
-Bains, Kennedy, Bearden, Sarac, Cloyd, Toki, Amone, and others on defense

Most of the rest of their best defenders have one season left-- the portal could really hurt them there if those guys feel a rebuild coming on.

The Aggies will take a big step back next season.

I had thought that the main competition for MSU next year in-conference would be Idaho, but now that Eck is gone and all their guys are portalling, that seems unlikely. I guess Montana will be the closest? Or maybe NAU?

Idaho was it. ISU, NAU should be better but as bad as is looks over the hill right now they will probably be #2. Cats are the prohibitive favorite next fall.

OK but the Cats have huge losses this year too.
Mellott
Julius Davis - Can come back
Ty McCullough - Trimble
Lonergan - Jones, Provience, Schlepp
Marcus Wehr - Rollins, Mastel (already starting)
JT Reed - See above
Justus Perkins

Brode Grebe - Crews, Parsons
Simeon Woodard - Carr, McMillan
Rylan Ortt - C. Dowler, Pottenger, Taki U, Steel (hurt early in the year)
Miles Jackson - Gray
Danny U - Been out over half the season and Grebe/Daily have been great
Blake Schmitt - Same as Danny

Tommy Sullivan
Brendan Hall

Not to mention some standouts on offense who may chase the money in the portal.

There is a guy ready to step in for nearly every guy listed above. And every one of them has got significant playing time this year.

I guess strictly by the definition of stepping in meaning they can play that position, you’re right. If you’re trying to say they can give an equivalent play, you’re quite wrong on several of them.

[91catAlum]

Portal aside, UCD will lose via graduation:

-QB1 (Hastings)
-RB1 (Larison-- also their leading receiver)
-RB2 (Perez)
-TE1 (Winston)
-TE2 (Gale)
-Every WR with over 15 receptions except one (Hutton, Davis, Tomkins)
-Multiple starters on the offensive line
-Bains, Kennedy, Bearden, Sarac, Cloyd, Toki, Amone, and others on defense

Most of the rest of their best defenders have one season left-- the portal could really hurt them there if those guys feel a rebuild coming on.

The Aggies will take a big step back next season.

I had thought that the main competition for MSU next year in-conference would be Idaho, but now that Eck is gone and all their guys are portalling, that seems unlikely. I guess Montana will be the closest? Or maybe NAU?

Idaho was it. ISU, NAU should be better but as bad as is looks over the hill right now they will probably be #2. Cats are the prohibitive favorite next fall.

OK but the Cats have huge losses this year too.
Mellott
Julius Davis - Can come back
Ty McCullough - Trimble
Lonergan - Jones, Provience, Schlepp
Marcus Wehr - Rollins, Mastel (already starting)
JT Reed - See above
Justus Perkins

Brode Grebe - Crews, Parsons
Simeon Woodard - Carr, McMillan
Rylan Ortt - C. Dowler, Pottenger, Taki U, Steel (hurt early in the year)
Miles Jackson - Gray
Danny U - Been out over half the season and Grebe/Daily have been great
Blake Schmitt - Same as Danny

Tommy Sullivan
Brendan Hall

Not to mention some standouts on offense who may chase the money in the portal.

There is a guy ready to step in for nearly every guy listed above. And every one of them has got significant playing time this year.

Don't you think the other teams mentioned probably have some guys who can also step in? I'm just saying, its not necessarily just MSU who has guys who can step in. We just don't know their rosters as well.

[BleedingBLue]

Portal aside, UCD will lose via graduation:

-QB1 (Hastings)
-RB1 (Larison-- also their leading receiver)
-RB2 (Perez)
-TE1 (Winston)
-TE2 (Gale)
-Every WR with over 15 receptions except one (Hutton, Davis, Tomkins)
-Multiple starters on the offensive line
-Bains, Kennedy, Bearden, Sarac, Cloyd, Toki, Amone, and others on defense

Most of the rest of their best defenders have one season left-- the portal could really hurt them there if those guys feel a rebuild coming on.

The Aggies will take a big step back next season.

I had thought that the main competition for MSU next year in-conference would be Idaho, but now that Eck is gone and all their guys are portalling, that seems unlikely. I guess Montana will be the closest? Or maybe NAU?

Idaho was it. ISU, NAU should be better but as bad as is looks over the hill right now they will probably be #2. Cats are the prohibitive favorite next fall.

OK but the Cats have huge losses this year too.
Mellott
Julius Davis - Can come back
Ty McCullough - Trimble
Lonergan - Jones, Provience, Schlepp
Marcus Wehr - Rollins, Mastel (already starting)
JT Reed - See above
Justus Perkins

Brode Grebe - Crews, Parsons
Simeon Woodard - Carr, McMillan
Rylan Ortt - C. Dowler, Pottenger, Taki U, Steel (hurt early in the year)
Miles Jackson - Gray
Danny U - Been out over half the season and Grebe/Daily have been great
Blake Schmitt - Same as Danny

Tommy Sullivan
Brendan Hall

Not to mention some standouts on offense who may chase the money in the portal.

There is a guy ready to step in for nearly every guy listed above. And every one of them has got significant playing time this year.

I guess strictly by the definition of stepping in meaning they can play that position, you’re right. If you’re trying to say they can give an equivalent play, you’re quite wrong on several of them.

I'm saying it's not like we're going from a great player to a back hole at those positions. Nobody thought Wehr was going to be an NFL caliber lineman when he switched over. Who knows how good some of the guys stepping in will be next year. My point was we aren't going into next year with unknowns at many positions.

[BleedingBLue]

Portal aside, UCD will lose via graduation:

-QB1 (Hastings)
-RB1 (Larison-- also their leading receiver)
-RB2 (Perez)
-TE1 (Winston)
-TE2 (Gale)
-Every WR with over 15 receptions except one (Hutton, Davis, Tomkins)
-Multiple starters on the offensive line
-Bains, Kennedy, Bearden, Sarac, Cloyd, Toki, Amone, and others on defense

Most of the rest of their best defenders have one season left-- the portal could really hurt them there if those guys feel a rebuild coming on.

The Aggies will take a big step back next season.

I had thought that the main competition for MSU next year in-conference would be Idaho, but now that Eck is gone and all their guys are portalling, that seems unlikely. I guess Montana will be the closest? Or maybe NAU?

Idaho was it. ISU, NAU should be better but as bad as is looks over the hill right now they will probably be #2. Cats are the prohibitive favorite next fall.

OK but the Cats have huge losses this year too.
Mellott
Julius Davis - Can come back
Ty McCullough - Trimble
Lonergan - Jones, Provience, Schlepp
Marcus Wehr - Rollins, Mastel (already starting)
JT Reed - See above
Justus Perkins

Brode Grebe - Crews, Parsons
Simeon Woodard - Carr, McMillan
Rylan Ortt - C. Dowler, Pottenger, Taki U, Steel (hurt early in the year)
Miles Jackson - Gray
Danny U - Been out over half the season and Grebe/Daily have been great
Blake Schmitt - Same as Danny

Tommy Sullivan
Brendan Hall

Not to mention some standouts on offense who may chase the money in the portal.

There is a guy ready to step in for nearly every guy listed above. And every one of them has got significant playing time this year.

Don't you think the other teams mentioned probably have some guys who can also step in? I'm just saying, its not necessarily just MSU who has guys who can step in. We just don't know their rosters as well.

They probably do. But I'd argue our depth is far greater than those teams. Our 2nd and 3rd string gets have already seen the field waaaaaaay more than those other teams as well.

[coloradocat]

Portal aside, UCD will lose via graduation:

-QB1 (Hastings)
-RB1 (Larison-- also their leading receiver)
-RB2 (Perez)
-TE1 (Winston)
-TE2 (Gale)
-Every WR with over 15 receptions except one (Hutton, Davis, Tomkins)
-Multiple starters on the offensive line
-Bains, Kennedy, Bearden, Sarac, Cloyd, Toki, Amone, and others on defense

Most of the rest of their best defenders have one season left-- the portal could really hurt them there if those guys feel a rebuild coming on.

The Aggies will take a big step back next season.

I had thought that the main competition for MSU next year in-conference would be Idaho, but now that Eck is gone and all their guys are portalling, that seems unlikely. I guess Montana will be the closest? Or maybe NAU?

Idaho was it. ISU, NAU should be better but as bad as is looks over the hill right now they will probably be #2. Cats are the prohibitive favorite next fall.

OK but the Cats have huge losses this year too.
Mellott
Julius Davis - Can come back
Ty McCullough - Trimble
Lonergan - Jones, Provience, Schlepp
Marcus Wehr - Rollins, Mastel (already starting)
JT Reed - See above
Justus Perkins

Brode Grebe - Crews, Parsons
Simeon Woodard - Carr, McMillan
Rylan Ortt - C. Dowler, Pottenger, Taki U, Steel (hurt early in the year)
Miles Jackson - Gray
Danny U - Been out over half the season and Grebe/Daily have been great
Blake Schmitt - Same as Danny

Tommy Sullivan
Brendan Hall

Not to mention some standouts on offense who may chase the money in the portal.

There is a guy ready to step in for nearly every guy listed above. And every one of them has got significant playing time this year.

Don't you think the other teams mentioned probably have some guys who can also step in? I'm just saying, its not necessarily just MSU who has guys who can step in. We just don't know their rosters as well.

They probably do. But I'd argue our depth is far greater than those teams. Our 2nd and 3rd string gets have already seen the field waaaaaaay more than those other teams as well.

Yeah, it's one thing to have a bunch of potential guys on the roster. It's a completely different thing to have a bunch of guys that have played a quarter or more of 8-10 games this year, in most cases against the opponent's starters.

[catatac]

What I would say about that list is... we're losing some damn fine players. However, several of them didn't even play much due to injury and Cats are still rocking it. Mellott is the only clear no brainer that I see and find it hard to believe we will be able to plug someone in that is as effective as he is. Stranger things have happened though.

Mellott
Julius Davis
Ty McCullough
Lonergan
Marcus Wehr
JT Reed
Justus Perkins

Brode Grebe
Simeon Woodard
Rylan Ortt
Miles Jackson
Danny U
Blake Schmitt

Tommy Sullivan
Brendan Hall

[Prodigal Cat]

Portal aside, UCD will lose via graduation:

-QB1 (Hastings)
-RB1 (Larison-- also their leading receiver)
-RB2 (Perez)
-TE1 (Winston)
-TE2 (Gale)
-Every WR with over 15 receptions except one (Hutton, Davis, Tomkins)
-Multiple starters on the offensive line
-Bains, Kennedy, Bearden, Sarac, Cloyd, Toki, Amone, and others on defense

Most of the rest of their best defenders have one season left-- the portal could really hurt them there if those guys feel a rebuild coming on.

The Aggies will take a big step back next season.

I had thought that the main competition for MSU next year in-conference would be Idaho, but now that Eck is gone and all their guys are portalling, that seems unlikely. I guess Montana will be the closest? Or maybe NAU?

Idaho was it. ISU, NAU should be better but as bad as is looks over the hill right now they will probably be #2. Cats are the prohibitive favorite next fall.

OK but the Cats have huge losses this year too.
Mellott
Julius Davis
Ty McCullough
Lonergan
Marcus Wehr
JT Reed
Justus Perkins

Brode Grebe
Simeon Woodard
Rylan Ortt
Miles Jackson
Danny U
Blake Schmitt

Tommy Sullivan
Brendan Hall

Not to mention some standouts on offense who may chase the money in the portal.

Yes but the Cats return a very good core of talent, especially on defense. The only D line loss will be Grebe. Eiden, Brott, Eckert, Crews will start. Zach Black, both Hunters, Fredrickson for depth. Daily and little Grebe have really developed at LB, Gray has looked good in the Nickle and Dowler should be back. Powdrell is all conference at CB and Polidore would have been had he played all year.

If Mastel and Reed were one player they would be all conference and Fleishmann was, Jefferson was good when he played. Maybe we lose SH but Jones and Davis at RB is better than any other 2 rb combo in the Big Sky. Rohan will be riding again. The big ??? is the most obvious one and center. I think the Cats will win with Defense and controlling the clock with the run game next season but that roster looks better than anything else in the Big Sky.

[MTmadeCat]

Not to mention the continued development of any current freshman that can crack the two deep next year, getting guys like C. Dowler and Steel back from injury, as well as picking up a player or two on each side of the ball in the portal to fill some voids like we have done the past several years…