Entz to USC

[MT Logger]

Players will rally behind Entz and get him a RING on his way out ala Bohl & Klieman

Brent and Molly love it there at Montana State he will be a great coach for you for a long time

Based on what? He just interviewed for Boise and didn't get it. Clearly he's looking at other opportunities, which is understandable.

I keep reading on here that Vigen interviewed for the Boise job. I haven’t seen any definitive proof of that. Does anyone have information on that being true? There are reporters that said Vigen was being considered for the Boise job along with a bunch of other names. Considered for a job doesn’t mean a whole lot and certainly doesn’t mean a person was interviewed. Considered could just mean his name was on a list. One guy said he saw Vigen in Denver, but that’s a long way from Boise and he could have been there for any number of reasons. Heck, reporters said certain coaches were considered for the MSU vacancy a few years ago that even Leon said he never actually considered and definitely didn’t interview.

You might be right that it was only a rumor. Not sure why I got that in my head.

I was following the Boise State forum semi-regularly during their coaching search and they had a "Flight Tracker" thread where they were posting flights by a private jet they thought was being used by their AD to conduct interviews. At one point the plane flew to Bozeman and they speculated that this was to interview Vigen. I don't believe there were ever any confirmed interviewees aside from their interim head coach who eventually was hired.

Thanks for the info!

[GoCats18]

Wonder why Hauck isn’t a candidate? After all, he is the greatest football coach alive.

[TomCat88]

Wonder why Hauck isn’t a candidate? After all, he is the greatest football coach alive.

Seems like an obvious candidate. Ndsu can just interview him when they’re in Missoula for the game and announce the hiring right before kickoff, Entz can leave for SC and Hauck can coach the Bison and fly back to Fargo with the team. Just think of the savings!

[lutecat]

Players will rally behind Entz and get him a RING on his way out ala Bohl & Klieman

Brent and Molly love it there at Montana State he will be a great coach for you for a long time

Based on what? He just interviewed for Boise and didn't get it. Clearly he's looking at other opportunities, which is understandable.

I keep reading on here that Vigen interviewed for the Boise job. I haven’t seen any definitive proof of that. Does anyone have information on that being true? There are reporters that said Vigen was being considered for the Boise job along with a bunch of other names. Considered for a job doesn’t mean a whole lot and certainly doesn’t mean a person was interviewed. Considered could just mean his name was on a list. One guy said he saw Vigen in Denver, but that’s a long way from Boise and he could have been there for any number of reasons. Heck, reporters said certain coaches were considered for the MSU vacancy a few years ago that even Leon said he never actually considered and definitely didn’t interview.

You might be right that it was only a rumor. Not sure why I got that in my head.

I was following the Boise State forum semi-regularly during their coaching search and they had a "Flight Tracker" thread where they were posting flights by a private jet they thought was being used by their AD to conduct interviews. At one point the plane flew to Bozeman and they speculated that this was to interview Vigen. I don't believe there were ever any confirmed interviewees aside from their interim head coach who eventually was hired.

The BH comment at the bottom of this thread got me thinking about this. We heard BV was considered for BSU. Why don't we ever hear BH was considered, if it's just a list people drum up. And it's not people that were a "maybe they want him" list.

[mule]

BH is safe where he is at and even if he got an offer someplace else, I doubt he would take it. He would be fired in a short time with his no morels and low-class character.

The griz fans and bh fit each other perfect. The worst host and fans of hate and the country and everyone knows it.

[nanacat]

BH is safe where he is at and even if he got an offer someplace else, I doubt he would take it. He would be fired in a short time with his no morels and low-class character.

The griz fans and bh fit each other perfect. The worst host and fans of hate and the country and everyone knows it.

TRUTH! But my gut tells me, regardless of how next weekend goes, he's going to retire.

[lakesbison]

Entz pulled his name out of New Mexico & Boise State
Vigen was considered by Boise


Vigen stays at Montana St to get to Frisco 1 more time

[TomCat88]

Entz pulled his name out of New Mexico & Boise State
Vigen was considered by Boise


Vigen stays at Montana St to get to Frisco 1 more time

Considered or interviewed?

[RKMCMT]

I don't think NDSU is the draw it used to be, from a coaching perspective. So much success its community support has gotten complacent, but the expectation is still championships.

Quite a bit of risk without commensurate upside. If you succeed, it's the system. If you fail, it's you. Seems like an inside promotion would be most likely.

[msuhunter]

I am very disappointed by the anti-Vigen tone in this thread. Elephant in the room? Can him for interviewing? Coach V is a class act and all he's done is win. I hope he stays for a couple of decades.

except for SDSU, NDSU, Idaho, and missoula ... but I digress

[exppi]

Players will rally behind Entz and get him a RING on his way out ala Bohl & Klieman

Brent and Molly love it there at Montana State he will be a great coach for you for a long time

Based on what? He just interviewed for Boise and didn't get it. Clearly he's looking at other opportunities, which is understandable.

I keep reading on here that Vigen interviewed for the Boise job. I haven’t seen any definitive proof of that. Does anyone have information on that being true? There are reporters that said Vigen was being considered for the Boise job along with a bunch of other names. Considered for a job doesn’t mean a whole lot and certainly doesn’t mean a person was interviewed. Considered could just mean his name was on a list. One guy said he saw Vigen in Denver, but that’s a long way from Boise and he could have been there for any number of reasons. Heck, reporters said certain coaches were considered for the MSU vacancy a few years ago that even Leon said he never actually considered and definitely didn’t interview.

You might be right that it was only a rumor. Not sure why I got that in my head.

I was following the Boise State forum semi-regularly during their coaching search and they had a "Flight Tracker" thread where they were posting flights by a private jet they thought was being used by their AD to conduct interviews. At one point the plane flew to Bozeman and they speculated that this was to interview Vigen. I don't believe there were ever any confirmed interviewees aside from their interim head coach who eventually was hired.

I personally don’t think it flew to Bozeman for BV. Choate still has a home in Bozeman and it was thanksgiving week. He was runner up last time.

[msuhunter]

I don't understand why anyone thinks Vigen owes anything to this university. He's free to look for upward mobility in his profession, and use other offers as leverage here. That's just smart business. Who cares if he actually did interview at boise or ndsu? He should only be looking to do what's best for him and his family. I've been critical of him this season, but to criticize this just doesn't make sense to me.

[MSU01]

Players will rally behind Entz and get him a RING on his way out ala Bohl & Klieman

Brent and Molly love it there at Montana State he will be a great coach for you for a long time

Based on what? He just interviewed for Boise and didn't get it. Clearly he's looking at other opportunities, which is understandable.

I keep reading on here that Vigen interviewed for the Boise job. I haven’t seen any definitive proof of that. Does anyone have information on that being true? There are reporters that said Vigen was being considered for the Boise job along with a bunch of other names. Considered for a job doesn’t mean a whole lot and certainly doesn’t mean a person was interviewed. Considered could just mean his name was on a list. One guy said he saw Vigen in Denver, but that’s a long way from Boise and he could have been there for any number of reasons. Heck, reporters said certain coaches were considered for the MSU vacancy a few years ago that even Leon said he never actually considered and definitely didn’t interview.

You might be right that it was only a rumor. Not sure why I got that in my head.

I was following the Boise State forum semi-regularly during their coaching search and they had a "Flight Tracker" thread where they were posting flights by a private jet they thought was being used by their AD to conduct interviews. At one point the plane flew to Bozeman and they speculated that this was to interview Vigen. I don't believe there were ever any confirmed interviewees aside from their interim head coach who eventually was hired.

I personally don’t think it flew to Bozeman for BV. Choate still has a home in Bozeman and it was thanksgiving week. He was runner up last time.

Texas was preparing for their last regular season game during the week of Thanksgiving, I highly doubt he had time to fly all the way to Bozeman to hang out at his house there and conduct an interview with Boise. But I guess anything's possible, or that the private jet that flew to Bozeman had nothing to do with Boise State's coaching search.

[duelalumnicat]

I am not offended if Coach Vigen interviews for what he thinks is a better job based on his circumstances. For example, what if he needs to return to North Dakota for family reasons?

By the way, I don't recall seeing it mentioned on this Board, but Victor Flores reported a couple of weeks ago that Coach Vigen appeared to be one of the four finalists for the open San Diego State position. Coach Vigen is clearly well-respected in coaching circles.

[cats2506]

I don't understand why anyone thinks Vigen owes anything to this university. He's free to look for upward mobility in his profession, and use other offers as leverage here. That's just smart business. Who cares if he actually did interview at boise or ndsu? He should only be looking to do what's best for him and his family. I've been critical of him this season, but to criticize this just doesn't make sense to me.

I agree, if they call he should talk to them, but I personally think MSU is a better gig right now, add in that the Fargodome Expansion just failed and their isnt much upside for going to NDSU.

[GoldstoneCat]

I don't understand why anyone thinks Vigen owes anything to this university. He's free to look for upward mobility in his profession, and use other offers as leverage here. That's just smart business. Who cares if he actually did interview at boise or ndsu? He should only be looking to do what's best for him and his family. I've been critical of him this season, but to criticize this just doesn't make sense to me.

This. "Fire him if he even side-eyes the head job at his Alma mater" is not a particularly thoughtful or well-supported take on the matter.

[kennethnoisewater]

I think 5 years ago there's no way an NDSU coach leaves for a position coach (and assistant HC) job anywhere.

First of all, I wonder if NDSU has lost some of its appeal, even though they're playing well right now. Maybe the fatigue of winning has him concerned. Maybe the pressure of going undefeated every season is getting old. If I'm Entz, I'd kill for the opportunity to go have considerably less pressure, coach in the biggest league in college football, make more money, and leave Fargo.

But second, I just wonder if he sees the future of college football in the upper levels of the FBS. I don't think this is about FCS moving up to G-5 or whatever we will end up calling that. I wonder if this shift to big time college football just kills the rest of college football. Sure there will still be programs, but does the GENERAL population just further lose interest in anything but the top dogs? I know there are a lot of us who will say "hell no, I'll love smaller programs forever", and I'm with you, but there aren't 50 million of us saying that. If all other programs have to get lean, is this the only way to have a decent job in coaching in 5 years? I really don't know. I hope not--I hope there's enough interest in a second level of college football for a long time. But these are thoughts I'd be having if I had basically reached the pinnacle of coaching at the FCS level.

[BelligerentBobcat]

I don't understand why anyone thinks Vigen owes anything to this university. He's free to look for upward mobility in his profession, and use other offers as leverage here. That's just smart business. Who cares if he actually did interview at boise or ndsu? He should only be looking to do what's best for him and his family. I've been critical of him this season, but to criticize this just doesn't make sense to me.

This. "Fire him if he even side-eyes the head job at his Alma mater" is not a particularly thoughtful or well-supported take on the matter.

I completely understand interviewing for a job that would give him upward mobility over MSU. I wasn’t mad about Boise, if it was even true. But interviewing for NDSU? A team that is basically on the same level as us? If he didn’t get it, he’d lose the locker room. There’s no justification, no defending it. Does he owe us anything? I mean, it’s his first HC job, but no, he doesn’t owe us…it’s just being smart.

[TomCat88]

I don't understand why anyone thinks Vigen owes anything to this university. He's free to look for upward mobility in his profession, and use other offers as leverage here. That's just smart business. Who cares if he actually did interview at boise or ndsu? He should only be looking to do what's best for him and his family. I've been critical of him this season, but to criticize this just doesn't make sense to me.

This. "Fire him if he even side-eyes the head job at his Alma mater" is not a particularly thoughtful or well-supported take on the matter.

I completely understand interviewing for a job that would give him upward mobility over MSU. I wasn’t mad about Boise, if it was even true. But interviewing for NDSU? A team that is basically on the same level as us? If he didn’t get it, he’d lose the locker room. There’s no justification, no defending it. Does he owe us anything? I mean, it’s his first HC job, but no, he doesn’t owe us…it’s just being smart.

I posed this question in response to Herder on twitter. I don't expect a response but was wondering if there are examples of lateral moves such as MSU to NDSU, not a Pioneer League to MSU.

[GoldstoneCat]

I don't understand why anyone thinks Vigen owes anything to this university. He's free to look for upward mobility in his profession, and use other offers as leverage here. That's just smart business. Who cares if he actually did interview at boise or ndsu? He should only be looking to do what's best for him and his family. I've been critical of him this season, but to criticize this just doesn't make sense to me.

This. "Fire him if he even side-eyes the head job at his Alma mater" is not a particularly thoughtful or well-supported take on the matter.

I completely understand interviewing for a job that would give him upward mobility over MSU. I wasn’t mad about Boise, if it was even true. But interviewing for NDSU? A team that is basically on the same level as us? If he didn’t get it, he’d lose the locker room. There’s no justification, no defending it. Does he owe us anything? I mean, it’s his first HC job, but no, he doesn’t owe us…it’s just being smart.

I'm not an employment lawyer, so i may be wrong, but i doubt you could fire him without paying him the rest of his contract. Pretty sure he got a new one after last year, 4- year deal maybe? So you'd be on the hook for a million plus the staff, plus the new staff. For him taking an interview at his alma mater. You can call it a lateral move and defend it, but it's also the best FCS program in history. Even if you're at one that's currently a top 5 program, wouldn't you want the #1 job? Would you tell the Tennessee head coach or the auburn head coach to turn down an interview request from Alabama? Not reasonable imo.