Tommy Mellott

[technoCat]

Better play calling would have given Tommy and the Cats a 2 score win. Unfortunately, Tommy got hurt and the Cats lose by a predictable special teams blunder.

Oh look another opportunity in a different thread for me to bag on housewrong.

Takeaways from the game: Tommy is a stud and a gamer.
Defense can be effective when they aren’t put into ultra conservative packages.
Tommy should not be ran between the tackles with an empty backfield. (Didn’t know this was a mystery to housewrong) someone get the crayons out and draw him a picture.
Get out the pitchforks and torches and run housewrong out of town.
And now that the pitchforks are out and touches on fire run Garza out too.

You know what I was picturing being run there? The fake qb run pass to the TE who leaks out over the middle that won it for us in Missoula. Bet it would have been wiiiiiidddeee open.

[technoCat]

I’m personally looking forward to next season and specifically Tommy being the unquestioned QB1. Chambers did some great things and I’m grateful for his time but having this weird 2 QB system and people mumbling about wanting the backup to get more time is an unhealthy situation IMO.

I was looking at Tommy’s numbers versus Miller's yesterday and they pretty much line up. Tommy needs to double his passing next year and reduce his running by a lot. Hopefully Wilson can step up to take the Payton/Chambers role or maybe they fit in Reed a bit more. I'm hoping whomever is OC(not sure if I'm totally on the fire House train or not) can get it in his head he doesn't have to carry the team all by himself.

Why would you want the fastest player in the conference to run less? His running needs to be utilized better. Dumb play call got him hurt. A better play call results in no injury and a first down.

Because I want Tommy to last a season. He can still run but teams are obviously scheming to make him keep the ball so they can hit him. Save him for the big hitters and scramble drill. Like you said, better utilization.

[BelligerentBobcat]

Blaming the play call for the injury makes as much sense as blaming the OL for missing his block. It’s football, it’s a contact sport, injuries are going to happen eventually. You could even say it’s Tommy’s fault for not reading the blocking correctly.

I don’t care for Housewright either, but we don’t need to invent more reasons to dislike him.

[VimSince03]

Blaming the play call for the injury makes as much sense as blaming the OL for missing his block. It’s football, it’s a contact sport, injuries are going to happen eventually. You could even say it’s Tommy’s fault for not reading the blocking correctly.

I don’t care for Housewright either, but we don’t need to invent more reasons to dislike him.

Poor play call because on 3rd and 1, we had a pile of 3 yards gains on Saturday to RBs. If you're stopped short, I get a 4th and 1 empty with Tommy or Sean taking the rock. But again, why on 3rd down when other plays have clearly worked in that down and distance? Tommy missed his gap but I get being upset at the playcall. Happened too much with Housewright the past two years where in crunch time it was "let Tommy's athleticism get the job done."

[BelligerentBobcat]

Blaming the play call for the injury makes as much sense as blaming the OL for missing his block. It’s football, it’s a contact sport, injuries are going to happen eventually. You could even say it’s Tommy’s fault for not reading the blocking correctly.

I don’t care for Housewright either, but we don’t need to invent more reasons to dislike him.

Poor play call because on 3rd and 1, we had a pile of 3 yards gains on Saturday to RBs. If you're stopped short, I get a 4th and 1 empty with Tommy or Sean taking the rock. But again, why on 3rd down when other plays have clearly worked in that down and distance? Tommy missed his gap but I get being upset at the playcall. Happened too much with Housewright the past two years where in crunch time it was "let Tommy's athleticism get the job done."

I’m not saying it was a good play call, but I just don’t agree that the call is why he got injured. Could have happened at any time.

[VimSince03]

Blaming the play call for the injury makes as much sense as blaming the OL for missing his block. It’s football, it’s a contact sport, injuries are going to happen eventually. You could even say it’s Tommy’s fault for not reading the blocking correctly.

I don’t care for Housewright either, but we don’t need to invent more reasons to dislike him.

Poor play call because on 3rd and 1, we had a pile of 3 yards gains on Saturday to RBs. If you're stopped short, I get a 4th and 1 empty with Tommy or Sean taking the rock. But again, why on 3rd down when other plays have clearly worked in that down and distance? Tommy missed his gap but I get being upset at the playcall. Happened too much with Housewright the past two years where in crunch time it was "let Tommy's athleticism get the job done."

I’m not saying it was a good play call, but I just don’t agree that the call is why he got injured. Could have happened at any time.

Absolutely. Tommy actually worked on using more of his upper body when going down this year which I think must have been intentional. But it just takes one big body.

[LTown Cat]

. He was walking on it without assistance after the game. Looks like a typical sprain.

You can walk on a torn acl.

True, but I don’t recall them testing his knee for that. Did they? Usually when it’s a knee they have the person lay on their back, bend at the knee and then kinda pull from the back of the calf. If they did that, then it’s a knee injury.

I didn’t see it, tbh. Really hopeful it’s a sprain and not a tear.

I thought they were looking at his ankle when he was on the ground. I thought by the way he was limping it was an ankle. But I really don’t know and probably shouldn’t speculate so strongly.

Would suck obviously if it’s a torn acl. He’s gifted. Has a shot at the NFL at a different position. I wouldn’t mind seeing him at safety next year if other QBs can develop into quality players. I think Reed is very close. Adding Lonyatta Alexander to the WR corps may bring about some philosophical changes in the passing game.

I’ve been wanting to say that all year. I like Tommy at QB but I’m not sure the best thing for him and MAYBE the team wouldn’t be for him to play safety. He’s probably NFL talent there. Trouble is… now he’s a senior. I think with two years the change could’ve been made. Probably not with one.

[technoCat]

. He was walking on it without assistance after the game. Looks like a typical sprain.

You can walk on a torn acl.

True, but I don’t recall them testing his knee for that. Did they? Usually when it’s a knee they have the person lay on their back, bend at the knee and then kinda pull from the back of the calf. If they did that, then it’s a knee injury.

I didn’t see it, tbh. Really hopeful it’s a sprain and not a tear.

I thought they were looking at his ankle when he was on the ground. I thought by the way he was limping it was an ankle. But I really don’t know and probably shouldn’t speculate so strongly.

Would suck obviously if it’s a torn acl. He’s gifted. Has a shot at the NFL at a different position. I wouldn’t mind seeing him at safety next year if other QBs can develop into quality players. I think Reed is very close. Adding Lonyatta Alexander to the WR corps may bring about some philosophical changes in the passing game.

I’ve been wanting to say that all year. I like Tommy at QB but I’m not sure the best thing for him and MAYBE the team wouldn’t be for him to play safety. He’s probably NFL talent there. Trouble is… now he’s a senior. I think with two years the change could’ve been made. Probably not with one.

Yeah its not like switching Troy who had been at least practicing there for most of his time here.

[VimSince03]

I don't know. If you can train the kid to trust his arm a little more, some of the throws he made on Saturday were bonkers. Like...perfect velocity and placement. He had the fastball, touch pass, deep middle, across the field from opposite hash, etc. The throws he made to Clevan and Taco over the middle on 3rd and longs? Where the hell has that been!? I haven't seen throws like that since Denarius. Its both awesome and frustrating to watch.

[BleedingBLue]

I don't know. If you can train the kid to trust his arm a little more, some of the throws he made on Saturday were bonkers. Like...perfect velocity and placement. He had the fastball, touch pass, deep middle, across the field from opposite hash, etc. The throws he made to Clevan and Taco over the middle on 3rd and longs? Where the hell has that been!? I haven't seen throws like that since Denarius. Its both awesome and frustrating to watch.

I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I for one didn't think him capable of those throws, and it seems the coaches didn't either since those passes were never called with him at QB. It was like we were seeing an entirely different gameplan Saturday, except in a few circumstances where Housewright seemed to have said, "I haven't been predictable yet, better do that."

[91catAlum]

I don't know. If you can train the kid to trust his arm a little more, some of the throws he made on Saturday were bonkers. Like...perfect velocity and placement. He had the fastball, touch pass, deep middle, across the field from opposite hash, etc. The throws he made to Clevan and Taco over the middle on 3rd and longs? Where the hell has that been!? I haven't seen throws like that since Denarius. Its both awesome and frustrating to watch.

I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I for one didn't think him capable of those throws, and it seems the coaches didn't either since those passes were never called with him at QB. It was like we were seeing an entirely different gameplan Saturday, except in a few circumstances where Housewright seemed to have said, "I haven't been predictable yet, better do that."

Hard to say if this was the first time those plays were being called, or if Tommy was trusting his arm more and taking off less.
Maybe a combination of both.

[BleedingBLue]

I don't know. If you can train the kid to trust his arm a little more, some of the throws he made on Saturday were bonkers. Like...perfect velocity and placement. He had the fastball, touch pass, deep middle, across the field from opposite hash, etc. The throws he made to Clevan and Taco over the middle on 3rd and longs? Where the hell has that been!? I haven't seen throws like that since Denarius. Its both awesome and frustrating to watch.

I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I for one didn't think him capable of those throws, and it seems the coaches didn't either since those passes were never called with him at QB. It was like we were seeing an entirely different gameplan Saturday, except in a few circumstances where Housewright seemed to have said, "I haven't been predictable yet, better do that."

Hard to say if this was the first time those plays were being called, or if Tommy was trusting his arm more and taking off less.
Maybe a combination of both.

Maybe, but you rarely saw him even look to the middle of the field before Saturday.

[asstastic]

I want the coaching staff to promise *never* to put Tommy (or any QB) in an empty backfield on 4th and 2. That’s just saying “Okay, here’s our prized QB, take your best shot.” They did. At least give him a fullback to keep 500+ pounds of defensive linemen from falling directly on top of him. Putting him in that situation was criminal.

Our running backs were really starting to push hard too. Love to know what they averaged every tote after half. Hindsight and all. Tommy shouldn’t have been the ball carrier in that situation. And then Chambers hobbles on the field and then you really scratch your head.

[technoCat]

I don't know. If you can train the kid to trust his arm a little more, some of the throws he made on Saturday were bonkers. Like...perfect velocity and placement. He had the fastball, touch pass, deep middle, across the field from opposite hash, etc. The throws he made to Clevan and Taco over the middle on 3rd and longs? Where the hell has that been!? I haven't seen throws like that since Denarius. Its both awesome and frustrating to watch.

I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I for one didn't think him capable of those throws, and it seems the coaches didn't either since those passes were never called with him at QB. It was like we were seeing an entirely different gameplan Saturday, except in a few circumstances where Housewright seemed to have said, "I haven't been predictable yet, better do that."

Hard to say if this was the first time those plays were being called, or if Tommy was trusting his arm more and taking off less.
Maybe a combination of both.

Maybe, but you rarely saw him even look to the middle of the field before Saturday.

This is why I said Tommy can make all the throws we need. He did make those throws before but I think they were mostly in games we had big leads so maybe they just let him "cook" more in those games. I think that contributed to people not remembering as much because the stakes weren't as high. So I'm curious if Housewright finally decided to remove the leash because it was win or go home on Saturday or if it was Tommy just flipping a switch to take more risks throwing. Since as people have mentioned, he didn't even look at the middle of the field a good amount of the time this year, I suspect the former.

[VimSince03]

Every Scottre carry:

3
4
10
1
8
15
1
9
3
6 (play before the 3rd and 1 run by Tommy)
25 (touchdown run in OT)

Unfrickingbelievable we didn't have trust to try and get a yard with Scottre in that situation on 3rd and 1. I know he was stopped short on 4th and 2 a possession earlier but odds are pretty high he gets a first down.

[technoCat]

Every Scottre carry:

3
4
10
1
8
15
1
9
3
6 (play before the 3rd and 1 run by Tommy)
25 (touchdown run in OT)

Unfrickingbelievable we didn't have trust to try and get a yard with Scottre in that situation on 3rd and 1. I know he was stopped short on 4th and 2 a possession earlier but odds are pretty high he gets a first down.

So I still don't get that review. Was it obvious on TV? Looked pretty clear he made it from my view and when they resumed play it looked like they placed the ball at the line to gain.

[PapaG]

I’m personally looking forward to next season and specifically Tommy being the unquestioned QB1. Chambers did some great things and I’m grateful for his time but having this weird 2 QB system and people mumbling about wanting the backup to get more time is an unhealthy situation IMO.

The thing is you almost have to prepare to have 2 QBs cause Tommy has yet gone a season without being hurt. I just don’t know if he can last very long taking every snap in every game all season, especially if they plan on running him like they do.

Definitely have to have another QB ready, but I'd guess there are even fewer designed QB runs next year.

Yep and have more pass plays like they did in the 2nd half especially. Cats are dynamic in the running game and every team knows it and sells out on stopping it and routes over the middle is so open. With the talent at RB and how explosive the passing game could be if they’d just run routes beside the jump ball, there’s very little exposure Tommy should/need to be making with his own legs.

It was good to see the throws over the middle. Tommy was pretty antsy on the first couple of throws and then settled in and did well.

That’s was Tommy’s best all-around game as a QB and if he builds on it in the offseason, the offense is much less predictable. He was a joy to watch and wasn’t taking big hits which makes it even more of a dagger that he was hurt in a mash up run on that third down.

I’m seeing ankle, I’ve heard knee, does anybody know what the injury is along with the severity of it?

[VimSince03]

Every Scottre carry:

3
4
10
1
8
15
1
9
3
6 (play before the 3rd and 1 run by Tommy)
25 (touchdown run in OT)

Unfrickingbelievable we didn't have trust to try and get a yard with Scottre in that situation on 3rd and 1. I know he was stopped short on 4th and 2 a possession earlier but odds are pretty high he gets a first down.

So I still don't get that review. Was it obvious on TV? Looked pretty clear he made it from my view and when they resumed play it looked like they placed the ball at the line to gain.

Reviewed showed clearly his knee was short. Weird thing is both teams were not concerned about the spot when it happened and MSU decided to move to the 4th quarter. The fact the quarter break happened is when they decided to look at it possibly with a push from Entz. MSU probably should've tried to run a play. More fun situational awareness from our staff!

[PapaG]

Every Scottre carry:

3
4
10
1
8
15
1
9
3
6 (play before the 3rd and 1 run by Tommy)
25 (touchdown run in OT)

Unfrickingbelievable we didn't have trust to try and get a yard with Scottre in that situation on 3rd and 1. I know he was stopped short on 4th and 2 a possession earlier but odds are pretty high he gets a first down.

So I still don't get that review. Was it obvious on TV? Looked pretty clear he made it from my view and when they resumed play it looked like they placed the ball at the line to gain.

They never measured that either way and our seats were near the replay guy. They were looking at it the entire quarter break then reset the ball. Also, it’s small thing, but there were a few seconds left when Scottre was down so it should have been a dead ball after the reversal, ball spotted, and with the turnover on downs one play left in the 3rd quarter.

I wasn’t overly impressed with the refereeing and specifically the Back Judge and Field Judge, who both seemed to allow some secondary penalties while calling others on basically whims.

[technoCat]

Every Scottre carry:

3
4
10
1
8
15
1
9
3
6 (play before the 3rd and 1 run by Tommy)
25 (touchdown run in OT)

Unfrickingbelievable we didn't have trust to try and get a yard with Scottre in that situation on 3rd and 1. I know he was stopped short on 4th and 2 a possession earlier but odds are pretty high he gets a first down.

So I still don't get that review. Was it obvious on TV? Looked pretty clear he made it from my view and when they resumed play it looked like they placed the ball at the line to gain.

Reviewed showed clearly his knee was short. Weird thing is both teams were not concerned about the spot when it happened and MSU decided to move to the 4th quarter. The fact the quarter break happened is when they decided to look at it possibly with a push from Entz. MSU probably should've tried to run a play. More fun situational awareness from our staff!

What about the play before? Looked a lot closer than two yards?