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Re: How many?

Post by technoCat » Sat Dec 02, 2023 12:15 am

91catAlum wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:58 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:09 pm
This is still a fairly young team. I think if anyone goes into the portal, it is most likely going to be players that aren’t on the two deep roster.
We have a few very good juniors who are going to get NIL offers to go FBS. That's how this works now. It sucks for FCS fans.
Um isn't that against the rules? I thought other teams boosters couldn't contact another team's players?


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Re: How many?

Post by Cataholic » Sat Dec 02, 2023 12:19 am

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Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:57 pm
Going to depend on coaching retention. If we fail to win tomorrow expect a lot of turnover, coordinators and players. The further we get in the playoffs the less we lose.


As a follow-up and o know it’s the wrong thread but O really don’t like that Boise is waiting until after tomorrow to announce their coach. I’m hoping Choate gets the job but it might be Vigen………..
Texas plays Big 12 championship tomorrow as well. Could be waiting to announce Choate.



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Re: How many?

Post by 91catAlum » Sat Dec 02, 2023 4:54 am

technoCat wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 12:15 am
91catAlum wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:58 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:09 pm
This is still a fairly young team. I think if anyone goes into the portal, it is most likely going to be players that aren’t on the two deep roster.
We have a few very good juniors who are going to get NIL offers to go FBS. That's how this works now. It sucks for FCS fans.
Um isn't that against the rules? I thought other teams boosters couldn't contact another team's players?
Ya sure.
They find ways around it, such as contact through a third party.
And rules aren't always followed. Plenty of examples of that over the last 40 years of college football.
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Re: How many?

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Sat Dec 02, 2023 5:02 am

technoCat wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 12:15 am
91catAlum wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:58 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:09 pm
This is still a fairly young team. I think if anyone goes into the portal, it is most likely going to be players that aren’t on the two deep roster.
We have a few very good juniors who are going to get NIL offers to go FBS. That's how this works now. It sucks for FCS fans.
Um isn't that against the rules? I thought other teams boosters couldn't contact another team's players?
Rules are for losers.



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Re: How many?

Post by technoCat » Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:54 am

91catAlum wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 4:54 am
technoCat wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 12:15 am
91catAlum wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:58 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:09 pm
This is still a fairly young team. I think if anyone goes into the portal, it is most likely going to be players that aren’t on the two deep roster.
We have a few very good juniors who are going to get NIL offers to go FBS. That's how this works now. It sucks for FCS fans.
Um isn't that against the rules? I thought other teams boosters couldn't contact another team's players?
Ya sure.
They find ways around it, such as contact through a third party.
And rules aren't always followed. Plenty of examples of that over the last 40 years of college football.
Well sure it happens some but we are making it sound like the top 3-5 kids on every team are being approached. Pretty sure someone would report that.


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Re: How many?

Post by sdsyvie » Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:02 am

Omar has graded out consistently as one of the top of line man in the country, he would be my guess



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Re: How many?

Post by St George » Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:08 am

I would like to see the NIL change. All the NIL money would go in huge pot. This money would then be shared based on FBS, FCS, Div II, etc. it could even be broken down by position or number of plays on the field. If changes aren't made then the teams with the most NIL money will just continue to buy better players. The portal needs to go back to sitting out a season to change teams.



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Re: How many?

Post by luckyirishguy25 » Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:17 am

technoCat wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:54 am
91catAlum wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 4:54 am
technoCat wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 12:15 am
91catAlum wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:58 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:09 pm
This is still a fairly young team. I think if anyone goes into the portal, it is most likely going to be players that aren’t on the two deep roster.
We have a few very good juniors who are going to get NIL offers to go FBS. That's how this works now. It sucks for FCS fans.
Um isn't that against the rules? I thought other teams boosters couldn't contact another team's players?
Ya sure.
They find ways around it, such as contact through a third party.
And rules aren't always followed. Plenty of examples of that over the last 40 years of college football.
Well sure it happens some but we are making it sound like the top 3-5 kids on every team are being approached. Pretty sure someone would report that.
Here's some good background on the NIL, I came across it the other day and thought it was interesting.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/th ... ommitments.



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Re: How many?

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:46 am

St George wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:08 am
I would like to see the NIL change. All the NIL money would go in huge pot. This money would then be shared based on FBS, FCS, Div II, etc. it could even be broken down by position or number of plays on the field. If changes aren't made then the teams with the most NIL money will just continue to buy better players. The portal needs to go back to sitting out a season to change teams.
Because the teams with the most money didn’t pay for players before? C’mon now, let’s not be naive. The NIL money is fine, there needs to be restrictions on the transfer portal. That’s my take.



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Re: How many?

Post by aucat » Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:11 am

Unless the NCAA makes some kind of rule restricting this wide open transferring, college sports is on the way to being ruined.



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Re: How many?

Post by Carolina Bobcat » Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:16 am

Prodigal Cat wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 12:09 am
91catAlum wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:58 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:09 pm
This is still a fairly young team. I think if anyone goes into the portal, it is most likely going to be players that aren’t on the two deep roster.
We have a few very good juniors who are going to get NIL offers to go FBS. That's how this works now. It sucks for FCS fans.
A significant number of Jr’s are Covid Jrs and most likely have their degrees. Who would fault them for exploring their options.
I would fault them. But, that’s only because I’m a petty dick who thinks that no good player should EVER leave MSU, under any circumstances. 😂


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Re: How many?

Post by luckyirishguy25 » Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:34 am

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:46 am
St George wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:08 am
I would like to see the NIL change. All the NIL money would go in huge pot. This money would then be shared based on FBS, FCS, Div II, etc. it could even be broken down by position or number of plays on the field. If changes aren't made then the teams with the most NIL money will just continue to buy better players. The portal needs to go back to sitting out a season to change teams.
Because the teams with the most money didn’t pay for players before? C’mon now, let’s not be naive. The NIL money is fine, there needs to be restrictions on the transfer portal. That’s my take.
I agree, the portal is out of hand.



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Re: How many?

Post by 91catAlum » Sat Dec 02, 2023 12:32 pm

technoCat wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:54 am
91catAlum wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 4:54 am
technoCat wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 12:15 am
91catAlum wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:58 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:09 pm
This is still a fairly young team. I think if anyone goes into the portal, it is most likely going to be players that aren’t on the two deep roster.
We have a few very good juniors who are going to get NIL offers to go FBS. That's how this works now. It sucks for FCS fans.
Um isn't that against the rules? I thought other teams boosters couldn't contact another team's players?
Ya sure.
They find ways around it, such as contact through a third party.
And rules aren't always followed. Plenty of examples of that over the last 40 years of college football.
Well sure it happens some but we are making it sound like the top 3-5 kids on every team are being approached. Pretty sure someone would report that.
Look no further than last year's kicker for MSU. Within about 3 days, he hit the portal, had an offer from UCLA, and committed to them.

If the kicker at MSU is being approached I'm about 99% sure that the top 3-5 other players are as well.


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Re: How many?

Post by ThoughtUKnew14 » Sat Dec 02, 2023 1:59 pm

A total of 8 is my prediction and taking a stab of where as follows…

Defense: 4
RB: 2
WR: 2



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Re: How many?

Post by WetBreeches » Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:07 pm

Prodigal Cat wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 12:09 am
91catAlum wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:58 pm
GoCats18 wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:09 pm
This is still a fairly young team. I think if anyone goes into the portal, it is most likely going to be players that aren’t on the two deep roster.
We have a few very good juniors who are going to get NIL offers to go FBS. That's how this works now. It sucks for FCS fans.
A significant number of Jr’s are Covid Jrs and most likely have their degrees. Who would fault them for exploring their options.
Cats could lose their whole starting d line to "graduation" and portal. Probably lose an o lineman or two. Toss in an RB or two (but non too concerning). Things could get ugly quick.



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Re: How many?

Post by catzz » Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:11 pm

We should/will lose Hall. The irony of some calling for him to be replaced.



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Re: How many?

Post by The Butcher » Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:13 pm

catzz wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:11 pm
We should/will lose Hall. The irony of some calling for him to be replaced.
Graduate transfer?



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Re: How many?

Post by Travelingcat » Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:00 pm

Vigen has got to really pick up his internal recruiting pitch and convince guys their NFL chances are better staying than leaving. Looking at what happened to Ifanse and Glessner this year, that's a case you can make. Our guys are good but none of them are so good that they are going to be some massive $ transfer. Take a guy like Seabass-- if he stays here he will continue to star, and he is already on the NFL radar. If he transfers to a Power 5 school, maybe he gets lost in a depth shuffle or gets in the wrong system and hurts his stock. For guys with Pro Futures, I think the portal is overrated.



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Re: How many?

Post by iaafan » Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:05 pm

The players aren’t stupid. They transfer because they are bored here or want more playing time 99% of the time. Hardly any think they will go pro. They can do math.



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Re: How many?

Post by iaafan » Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:06 pm

The same people that think there’s going to be a mass exodus are the same ones that think recruits are going to flip.



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