Another DL Transfer Coming

iaafan · Post by **iaafan** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:38 pm

If he can transfer to MSU, he will. It's just a matter of whether or not he meets all the NCAA qualifications to do so. Until that is known the coaches/administration can't talk about him, but they are doing what they can to make it happen. It should work itself out in the next few days.

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 5:20 pm

I know i'll take sh*t for saying this from Griz fans, but Kramer has been consistantly better than Hauck at getting impact Div.I transfers into the Bobcat program. He gets a couple of great drop-downs every year, to fill critical needs.

Hauck has not signed a single significant IA drop-down since he has been the Griz coach. Ochs, Justin Green, and Walden all fell into his lap. Ochs walked into Glenn's office, Green was recruited by a Griz assistant who coached him in San Diego, and Walden contacted Bobby directly about transferring. His big claim to fame is getting Jason Washington. I guess he should be given credit for getting Russum too. We'll see how he works out. I don't think there was a big rush to sign Washington, however. We'll soon see how much impact that signing will be.

iaafan · Post by **iaafan** » Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:46 am

That seems to be the trend, but it is more of a necessity for Kramer. If Hauck wasn't so loaded with talent (the standard perception throughout I-AA/BSC is that UM has the most talent) he might be more aggressive on that front. I don't recall other UM coaches beating the bushes for transfers. The book's still out on JW, but the early returns aren't real good. And even if he is good he has a foot problem that could flare up at any time.

iaafan · Post by **iaafan** » Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:42 am

BB: Ochs came to UM when Glenn was still the coach. Glenn did get the Wyo. job before Ochs played at UM. But Hauck had nothing to do with Ochs coming to UM. If anything Ochs may have considered transferring after Hauck came on board, but I doubt that.

Cat Pride · Post by **Cat Pride** » Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:48 am

bearBAC wrote:Walden played a year for Glenn, Ochs walked into Bobbys office, and Hauck went to Justin Greens house to recruit him.

Walden was recruited by Glenn, was enrolled at UM that spring semester, however, he never played a down for Cowboy Joe. Big Willie did sit on Fat Pat Kennedy's bench when he first came over - never played though.

Ochs also came and enrolled for the spring semester - because Joe Glenn recruited him. Glenn knew Ochs from his days at UNC.

Justin Green was recruited by Bobby though.

How I see this is UM hasnt needed to go after I-A dropdowns as much as MSU, therefore their success rate with them wouldnt be as good just based on sheer numbers. UM is blessed with depth in their program, depth that few in I-AA have. Thus, MSU and a vast majority of I-AA schools rely on Jucos and dropdowns to plug holes vacated through graduation.

This all being said, Kramer and his staff do an incredible job of continuing their recruiting efforts all year long. Its no coincidence that MSU is able to pick up high quality kids during the summer and even late into August every year. In fact, MSU plans for this and intentionally leaves scholarships open for this time of year for that very reason.

Cat Pride · Post by **Cat Pride** » Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:51 am

iaafan wrote:BB: Ochs came to UM when Glenn was still the coach. Glenn did get the Wyo. job before Ochs played at UM. But Hauck had nothing to do with Ochs coming to UM. If anything Ochs may have considered transferring after Hauck came on board, but I doubt that.

One of the biggest reasons Ochs came to UM was because of the relationship with Glenn. Had he not been enrolled in school, and such a stand-up kid, he might have left when Glenn left. I hand it to Ochs for honoring his committment. That doesnt have anything to do with Hauck, but everything to do with Glenn not being there and the uncertainty of a new staff.

lifeloyalsigmsu · Post by **lifeloyalsigmsu** » Fri Sep 02, 2005 11:07 pm

Cat Pride wrote:
iaafan wrote:BB: Ochs came to UM when Glenn was still the coach. Glenn did get the Wyo. job before Ochs played at UM. But Hauck had nothing to do with Ochs coming to UM. If anything Ochs may have considered transferring after Hauck came on board, but I doubt that.
One of the biggest reasons Ochs came to UM was because of the relationship with Glenn. Had he not been enrolled in school, and such a stand-up kid, he might have left when Glenn left. I hand it to Ochs for honoring his committment. That doesnt have anything to do with Hauck, but everything to do with Glenn not being there and the uncertainty of a new staff.

Didn't Beavis have some contact and an initial relationship with Ochs while he was assisting Neuweasel at Colorado? To my understanding, Beavis got to know Ochs while he was being recruited at Colorado (later 90's).

hokeyfine · Post by **hokeyfine** » Fri Sep 02, 2005 11:35 pm

beavis's first encounter with ochs was when he was arrainging the hookers for the recruits at colorado. as we all know, ochs wasn't into that.

bobcatbob · Post by **bobcatbob** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:23 pm

I was at the Holiday Inn coaches corner again today and Kramer said the Mich State transfer couldn't meet the admissions requirement at MSU! Too bad because he said this kid is big, fast and talented! May come to the Bobcats in January and play next fall. He hasn't given up on getting him in here.

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:41 pm

Bobby Hauck may have made a visit to Justin Green's home, but he was recuited primarily by a Griz assistant (can't remember which one, but i'm sure some Griz lurker will remember) who was an assistant coach at San Diego State when Green played briefly there. Bobby would have never been able to sign Green if not for this assistant. Green had several IA offers out of JC, including New Mexico State, San Jose State, and Hawaii. He came to Montana because of his relationship with this assistant coach.

So, i'll say it one more time. Hauck has not signed a significant IA drop-down player since he arrived. Kramer has. Ever hear of Joey Thomas, Griz fans? Do ya think maybe he could have started for UM? Duh!

Bleedinbluengold · Post by **Bleedinbluengold** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:59 am

didn't the griz get a WR from UCLA or Notre Dame?

longhorn_22 · Post by **longhorn_22** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:11 am

Bleedinbluengold wrote:didn't the griz get a WR from UCLA or Notre Dame?

From what I understood, Tab Perry was going to transfer to UM but stayed at UCLA.

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:23 am

Yeah, they got Ronnie Rodamer. And, boy, what a get he was! He caught about 4 passes in a reserve roll before quitting the team. Hauck did get a wide receiver from Oklahoma State this season. I think he has caught 1-2 passes. Not sure if he will be much of an impact player, because we don't have a QB who can get the ball to him.

The_Bobcats_Suck · Post by **The_Bobcats_Suck** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:10 pm

Wolfman wrote:Yeah, they got Ronnie Rodamer. And, boy, what a get he was! He caught about 4 passes in a reserve roll before quitting the team. Hauck did get a wide receiver from Oklahoma State this season. I think he has caught 1-2 passes. Not sure if he will be much of an impact player, because we don't have a QB who can get the ball to him.

Hey Wolfman! I miss your posts over on Egriz. It's good to see you are still around. Where do you post now?

Hell's Bells · Post by **Hell's Bells** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:13 pm

The_Bobcats_Suck wrote:
Wolfman wrote:Yeah, they got Ronnie Rodamer. And, boy, what a get he was! He caught about 4 passes in a reserve roll before quitting the team. Hauck did get a wide receiver from Oklahoma State this season. I think he has caught 1-2 passes. Not sure if he will be much of an impact player, because we don't have a QB who can get the ball to him.
Hey Wolfman! I miss your posts over on Egriz. It's good to see you are still around. Where do you post now?

ill tell ya where but then again wouldn't that spoil the fun?!?!?!?!?
*i am not wolfman btw*

PapaG · Post by **PapaG** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:14 pm

I think he has caught 1-2 passes. Not sure if he will be much of an impact player, because we don't have a QB who can get the ball to him.

Now that is pretty funny!

I was at the Oregon game on Saturday to see some friends from MT (yes, even though they are Griz fans). The group I was with left with about 7 minutes left, so I didn't get to see Berquist play. How did he look?

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:53 pm

I think he completed 6-7 passes, for one TD. But, it was against the Oregon scrubneenies. It would be nice to see him get some reps with the first team. But, Bobby must have made a pact in blood with Washington that he would start as a way of getting him to sign with the Griz.

BobcatsSuck, they kicked me off for being too objective about Grizzly football. You know, the Hitler youth over there get their clooective panties in a wad if someone criticizes the legendary coach Bobby Hauck. They have a bunch of "paying members" who run the board, and the two monitors are mere puppets to these guys.

But, thanks for the compliments! You'll have to read my stuff over here, I suppose.

wbtfg · Post by **wbtfg** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:29 pm

This a thread from this summer. It looked like we might have a chance at getting him here this winter. Anyone have any news on that?

HelenaCat95 · Post by **HelenaCat95** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:29 pm

I'm not sure if anything has taken place since then, but according to this article, he was quickly declared eligible for Mich State.

DL Stanton Declared Eligible For Kent State, Season

(09/2/05)--We do have two Stantons playing for MSU after all this fall.... Defensive lineman David Stanton has been declared eligible after first being declared ineligible by MSU because of a question on whether or not a class could be transferred. GREAT NEWS FOR THE SPARTANS!

As stated by the Lansing State Journal:

"Stanton previously had been declared academically ineligible by the institution as it strictly applied the NCAA's rules regarding junior college transfers," MSU associate athletic director John Lewandowski said in a statement. "MSU's compliance officer and administrators at the College of the Canyons forwarded Stanton's academic records to the NCAA's Membership Services for review.

"After reviewing the facts of his case, NCAA Membership Services issued an interpretation that allowed the institution to certify Stanton for competition and financial aid."