Desin done with Hoops focusing on Football

Post by **rtb** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:10 am

http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles ... -desin.txt

longhorn_22 · Post by **longhorn_22** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:21 am

I'm kind of disappointed to hear this, but good luck to him. I thought he would have been an excellent bball player here.

vike_king · Post by **vike_king** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:27 am

Nice headline in the Gazette "Desin Leaves Bobcats Mens Team" That would have made my butt pucker if that was the first thing I saw as opposed to the title of this thread!

mslacat · Post by **mslacat** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:30 am

Desin did not look like a walk-on, or a football player hoping to play basketball. He really looked like a legit D-1 freshman basketball player. He looked better than I thought he would have looked. For selfish reasons, I am disappointed, but two sports is tough and I completely understand. I will say this though it is a lot easier to be a two sport athlete when both sports are winning.

It is hard to be too diappointed, though, is still a Bobcat and we will be posting about him for a very long time hear.

Thanks for giving it a try Mark!!

BobcatLionFan · Post by **BobcatLionFan** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:17 pm

Has Desin now lost his Red-Shirt year for Football by playing Basketball? Seems like for the NCAA you have to red-shirt across the board or it's not for any.

Maybe that is the case for Desin, that if he played more than 4 games or so, the year counted as a normal year for Football (thus Kramer who pays the scholarship would not be to happy?).

4everacatfan · Post by **4everacatfan** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:01 pm

BobcatLionFan wrote:Has Desin now lost his Red-Shirt year for Football by playing Basketball? Seems like for the NCAA you have to red-shirt across the board or it's not for any.

Maybe that is the case for Desin, that if he played more than 4 games or so, the year counted as a normal year for Football (thus Kramer who pays the scholarship would not be to happy?).

No he does not lose his football redshirt year. It is hard to be a two sport athlete in college and keep your grades up. Not taking anything away from Mark but I think he is a competitor and only getting maybe 5 minutes of time a game probably was grating on him a little and he was brought here for football, so I wish him the best of luck.

mslacat · Post by **mslacat** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:02 pm

BobcatLionFan wrote:Has Desin now lost his Red-Shirt year for Football by playing Basketball? Seems like for the NCAA you have to red-shirt across the board or it's not for any.

Maybe that is the case for Desin, that if he played more than 4 games or so, the year counted as a normal year for Football (thus Kramer who pays the scholarship would not be to happy?).

No he did not lose a year of football elligiblity. The way the NCAA currently views it an athlete has 4 years of elligiblity in any sport to use in five consecutive years. There are plenty of examples in D-1 where an athlete has used up his four years in one sport only to play a fifth year in another (granted they did not redshirt) Essentually his elligiblity start in ALL sports the day he starts classes. Desin does have 4 years of football elligiblity right now, 4 years of track elligiblity but only 3 years now of elligiblity in basketball. All of his elligiblity will expire after the 2011-012 year. There are a lot of football players who play track on a redshirt year or after their senior year. There is also a trend to have a 6-7ish power forward to play a year at Tight end for football after they completed their basketball elligiblity.

To make things more complicated their are "hardship" waivers that will grant a 6th year (still only 4 years of elligiblity) Former bobcat basketball players Ryan Holmes, and Luke Anderson were both granted them in the last 4 months. They are very difficult to obtain, though.

profisme · Post by **profisme** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:48 pm

Criag Ochs is also a very prominent figure to have gotten a 6th year.

vike_king · Post by **vike_king** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:55 pm

profisme wrote:Criag Ochs is also a very prominent figure to have gotten a 6th year.

Isn't that how Mike Murphy was able to play this year also?

CARDIAC_CATS · Post by **CARDIAC_CATS** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:16 pm

vike_king wrote:
profisme wrote:Criag Ochs is also a very prominent figure to have gotten a 6th year.
Isn't that how Mike Murphy was able to play this year also?

That and some stuff that sounds like it was brushed under the rug up in BigFork

Okay that is smack I won't go there

coachouert · Post by **coachouert** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:17 pm

vike_king wrote:
profisme wrote:Criag Ochs is also a very prominent figure to have gotten a 6th year.
Isn't that how Mike Murphy was able to play this year also?

I'm fairly positive Murphy greyshirted his first year which would not lose him a year of eligibilty...someone may need to correct me on that.

CelticCat · Post by **CelticCat** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:39 pm

So what position is Desin going to play? A WR corp of Desin, Lulay, Green, Brown, Lewis, Bolton and Toliver sounds like a pretty lineup to me. Add Jamelle Banks and Joe Roberts to the list, too.

BobcatLionFan · Post by **BobcatLionFan** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:50 pm

CelticCat wrote:So what position is Desin going to play? A WR corp of Desin, Lulay, Green, Brown, Lewis, Bolton and Toliver sounds like a pretty lineup to me. Add Jamelle Banks and Joe Roberts to the list, too.

Interesting question. If he could play safety, that position has lots of openings for someone fast (just needs to hit the weight room). Could be a four year starter like Kane was.

If it's WR, Lewis, Toliver, and Lulay probably leads the list returning. Maybe a transfer. Green has speed. Bolton actually does great (if you don't look at the body shape). Brown????, not sure

But Desin could easily fit in there.

bobcatbob · Post by **bobcatbob** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:26 pm

Brown was kicked off the team for lack of effort! It was done a couple of weeks ago. He just wasn't putting in the effort required.

longhorn_22 · Post by **longhorn_22** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:33 pm

bobcatbob wrote:Brown was kicked off the team for lack of effort! It was done a couple of weeks ago. He just wasn't putting in the effort required.

That's sad. He had a lot of promise here.

twentythreeOh4 · Post by **twentythreeOh4** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:21 pm

profisme wrote:Criag Ochs is also a very prominent figure to have gotten a 6th year.

No he didn't. Ochs played as a true freshman at CU. He was granted a medical red-shirt, thus a 5th year of eligibility.

profisme · Post by **profisme** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:29 pm

My bad, he was granted the medical redshirt after having played 2 games during his true junior year at CU. It memory serves me correctly, didn't the powers that be grant him that medical redshirt year after his senior year at UM?

twentythreeOh4 · Post by **twentythreeOh4** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:07 pm

profisme wrote:My bad, he was granted the medical redshirt after having played 2 games during his true junior year at CU. It memory serves me correctly, didn't the powers that be grant him that medical redshirt year after his senior year at UM?

That is correct. The decision on the red-shirt came after his first year at UM. He had 3 years at CU and 2 at UM.