TV Coverage - the rest of the story

Post by **SonomaCat** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:25 pm

It is my understanding that all decisions about TV coverage for the playoff games are the domain of the NCAA, so MSU has no real control over whether or not the game is broadcast.

Max Media apparently did submit a bid for the game, but the NCAA rejected it, apparently to drive more ticket sales.

The NCAA apparently even get a cut of the apparel sales at the game, so you may see NCAA merchendise there instead of the usual attire that is for sale.

At the end of the day, this is an NCAA game and not an MSU game, so the administration's hand are bound to some degree on some decisions.

But we are very fortunate to have been given this opportunity by the NCAA, so we need to make the most of it. Pack the house on Saturday, support the Bobcats towards a big win, and then worry about TV for next week!

Bozgriz · Post by **Bozgriz** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:31 pm

Peter Fields said in this morning's Chronicle that they wanted to push more tickets to cover the bid and that getting TV would allow cat fans to sit at home...He hinted that this was his decision-

CPACAT · Post by **CPACAT** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:57 pm

Bozgriz wrote:Peter Fields said in this morning's Chronicle that they wanted to push more tickets to cover the bid and that getting TV would allow cat fans to sit at home...He hinted that this was his decision-

Well if it's in the paper it must be true because they only report the truth the whole truth and it is always completely accurate.

Eastcoastgriz · Post by **Eastcoastgriz** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:03 pm

Bay Area Cat wrote:
The NCAA apparently even get a cut of the apparel sales at the game, so you may see NCAA merchendise there instead of the usual attire that is for sale.

NCAA will ban the selling of of MSU gear at the game.

Post by **SonomaCat** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:58 pm

Eastcoastgriz wrote:
Bay Area Cat wrote:
The NCAA apparently even get a cut of the apparel sales at the game, so you may see NCAA merchendise there instead of the usual attire that is for sale.

NCAA will ban the selling of of MSU gear at the game.

What???

SkinCat · Post by **SkinCat** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:09 pm

I was hoping to buy Cat gear for my boys at the game since they have visitation with their Mother and I'm home alone in MSU Family Housing this holiday. Tell me it's not true!

bobcatbob · Post by **bobcatbob** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:28 pm

The bookstore will be open to buy gear on Saturday. Get their early and go to the bookstore!

Platinumcat · Post by **Platinumcat** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:02 pm

Bay Area Cat wrote:It is my understanding that all decisions about TV coverage for the playoff games are the domain of the NCAA, so MSU has no real control over whether or not the game is broadcast.

Max Media apparently did submit a bid for the game, but the NCAA rejected it, apparently to drive more ticket sales.

The NCAA apparently even get a cut of the apparel sales at the game, so you may see NCAA merchendise there instead of the usual attire that is for sale.

At the end of the day, this is an NCAA game and not an MSU game, so the administration's hand are bound to some degree on some decisions.

But we are very fortunate to have been given this opportunity by the NCAA, so we need to make the most of it. Pack the house on Saturday, support the Bobcats towards a big win, and then worry about TV for next week!

BAC,
Can you confirm where this is coming from? The article in the paper this morning quoted Peter as saying that he knew some people would be upset with him but that they want people to come to the game.

I understand wanting to cover the bid. But, I think the lack of coverage statewide to people who just can't come is unsettling; especially if Max Media did submit a bid. Am I missing something on the tv bid? Who would this money go to? Could it not be used to help cover the bid?

I guess in the end, I'm totally ignorant as to how this whole thing works for a playoff game (in regards to tv coverage, contracts, NCAA's role, merchandising, etc).

BelgradeBobcat · Post by **BelgradeBobcat** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:30 pm

Let's face it. We're pretty rusty at this whole hosting a playoff game thing. Priority number one has to be getting the stadium filled.

Keep in mind our admins got a very late start at all this. Nobody expected us to host. Decisions had to be made at the spur of the moment. I can't imagine the hours some people in the athletic department are having to put in to pull this thing off (I'll bet there was more than a few Thanksgiving celebrations that had to be put on hold).

Today's snow storm may really slow ticket sales. They couldn't risk putting it on TV even though sales were brisk because bad weather could change things.

Kramer spoke of hosting a playoff game as the next step. Well the next step after that is knowing you will be hosting the playoff game going into the last game of the season. The griz are outselling last seasons first round-probably because their fans had made their playoffs plans, and they got a boost from winning the cat-Griz game (I think last year there was some uncertainty that they would host that first game). Whereas some MSU fans didn't know we were hosting until Monday or even later.

HeHateGriz · Post by **HeHateGriz** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:37 pm

I seriously doubt that the NCAA rejected a Max Media TV bid based upon ticket sales. Remember, MSU has already submitted a bid to host that guarantees the NCAA a minimum amount of money.

The NCAA TV bid criteria does not contain any provision for ticket sales. The bids were due Tuesday afternoon, well before you could make an educated guess about final ticket sales. There is a minimum amount of money that must be bid and a few other requirements that need to be met, however nothing to address the possibility of TV reducing attendance. Given the track record Max Media had with Bobcat football this season there is no way that the NCAA rejected their bid unless the minimum $ requirement was not met.

Platinumcat · Post by **Platinumcat** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:43 pm

HeHateGriz wrote:I seriously doubt that the NCAA rejected a Max Media TV bid based upon ticket sales. Remember, MSU has already submitted a bid to host that guarantees the NCAA a minimum amount of money.

The NCAA TV bid criteria does not contain any provision for ticket sales. The bids were due Tuesday afternoon, well before you could make an educated guess about final ticket sales. There is a minimum amount of money that must be bid and a few other requirements that need to be met, however nothing to address the possibility of TV reducing attendance. Given the track record Max Media had with Bobcat football this season there is no way that the NCAA rejected their bid unless the minimum $ requirement was not met.

Which Tuesday are you talking of? Two days ago? Or, last Tuesday? Or the Tuesday before?

It is my understanding that the bids were sent in well before the selection committee even met. They selected the field last Sunday and then opened the bids to see who was hosting which games (or something to that effect).

HeHateGriz · Post by **HeHateGriz** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:03 pm

Wrong. This is a thread about television bids. I clearly was referring to TV bids above. The NCAA has better things to do then sort through TV bids for teams that MIGHT make the playoffs. Bids were due Tuesday afternoon the 21st. Besides, you have to know which match-up you are bidding on. ESPN gets to choose two first round games to cover (and they selected Coastal Carolina vs. Appy State and James Madison vs. Youngstown State).

Eastcoastgriz · Post by **Eastcoastgriz** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:39 pm

Bay Area Cat wrote:
Eastcoastgriz wrote:
Bay Area Cat wrote:
The NCAA apparently even get a cut of the apparel sales at the game, so you may see NCAA merchendise there instead of the usual attire that is for sale.

NCAA will ban the selling of of MSU gear at the game.
What???

You will be able to buy at the bookstore. All team gear is banned at the staduim. At least that's how its been in Missoula.

twentythreeOh4 · Post by **twentythreeOh4** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:40 pm

Bay Area Cat wrote:It is my understanding that all decisions about TV coverage for the playoff games are the domain of the NCAA, so MSU has no real control over whether or not the game is broadcast.

Max Media apparently did submit a bid for the game, but the NCAA rejected it, apparently to drive more ticket sales.

The NCAA apparently even get a cut of the apparel sales at the game, so you may see NCAA merchendise there instead of the usual attire that is for sale.

At the end of the day, this is an NCAA game and not an MSU game, so the administration's hand are bound to some degree on some decisions.

But we are very fortunate to have been given this opportunity by the NCAA, so we need to make the most of it. Pack the house on Saturday, support the Bobcats towards a big win, and then worry about TV for next week!

It's not the NCAA, it's MSU's AD keeping it off TV. In 1995 UM's AD Wayne Hogan didn't allow TV for the first round playoff game against E. Kentucky.

CouchCat · Post by **CouchCat** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:58 pm

Chances are no TV unless you can get butts in the seats.

Cha-ching!=NCAA

Air_Griz · Post by **Air_Griz** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:24 am

Bay Area Cat wrote:It is my understanding that all decisions about TV coverage for the playoff games are the domain of the NCAA, so MSU has no real control over whether or not the game is broadcast.

Max Media apparently did submit a bid for the game, but the NCAA rejected it, apparently to drive more ticket sales.

The NCAA apparently even get a cut of the apparel sales at the game, so you may see NCAA merchendise there instead of the usual attire that is for sale.

At the end of the day, this is an NCAA game and not an MSU game, so the administration's hand are bound to some degree on some decisions.

But we are very fortunate to have been given this opportunity by the NCAA, so we need to make the most of it. Pack the house on Saturday, support the Bobcats towards a big win, and then worry about TV for next week!

The NCAA did not reject a TV bid. MSU's AD rejected the TV bid. There is no NCAA conspiracy folks. The simple fact is Mr. Fields is responsible for the game not being televised. If MSU felt it could cover its playoff bid while still televising the game, then the game would be on TV. End of story.

soldier668 · Post by **soldier668** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:39 am

Please get some people in those seats, those of us who are about 7000 miles away can't be there to fill them, so we need enough so that maybe they'll get it on TV at the last second so I can still have a chance to watch it. Otherwise I guess I'll have to revert to the ole radio feed routine at 0300 in the morning.

crazycat · Post by **crazycat** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:40 am

I won't be at the game, but I don't care that it's not on TV. The most important thing is that there's a stadium full of rabid fans. I'll sacrifice whatever's necessary for that. Following the updates via the Internet or the radio is fine by me. Please, if you have the means (money, transportation) go to the game. We need every scrap of an edge we can get to beat this team.

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