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Why do we continue to give Montana kids the "Shaft?&qu
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:07 am
by Griz N Diggers
If You look at the group of WALK-ONS for the 2006 Recruiting class, they are all very solid players, and you would think that being a MONTANA PROGRAM, at least some of these kids would get some kind of scholarship money, not to mention those who turned down walk-ons for NAIA Scholarships. The state of Montana has great football, and the VERY BEST PROGRAMS IN MONTANA ARE BUILT AROUND MONTANA PLAYERS!!!i.e.-Carroll College(4X National Champions), U of M(8 STRAIT bIG sKY titles!!!) I Hope those coaches don't turn Bozeman into BOZ- ANGELES even further. YOUR THOUGHTS!
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:32 am
by longhorn_22
I think you need to take it to the smack board. And you forgot our BSC titles somewhere in the griz's '8 straight' claim.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:34 am
by CelticCat
He was just making a claim that the "other" MT schools are doing great with MT players.
But this is a tired and redundant topic.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:24 am
by DriftCat
37 out of state players for dUMb and 44 for the Cats. Thats a huge difference.

Re: Why do we continue to give Montana kids the "Shaft
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:49 am
by DriftCat
Griz N Diggers wrote:If You look at the group of WALK-ONS for the 2006 Recruiting class, they are all very solid players, and you would think that being a MONTANA PROGRAM, at least some of these kids would get some kind of scholarship money, not to mention those who turned down walk-ons for NAIA Scholarships. The state of Montana has great football, and the VERY BEST PROGRAMS IN MONTANA ARE BUILT AROUND MONTANA PLAYERS!!!i.e.-Carroll College(4X National Champions), U of M(8 STRAIT bIG sKY titles!!!) I Hope those coaches don't turn Bozeman into BOZ- ANGELES even further. YOUR THOUGHTS!
BearBac by chance?
Re: Why do we continue to give Montana kids the "Shaft
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:59 am
by Billings_Griz
MM7CAT wrote:Griz N Diggers wrote:If You look at the group of WALK-ONS for the 2006 Recruiting class, they are all very solid players, and you would think that being a MONTANA PROGRAM, at least some of these kids would get some kind of scholarship money, not to mention those who turned down walk-ons for NAIA Scholarships. The state of Montana has great football, and the VERY BEST PROGRAMS IN MONTANA ARE BUILT AROUND MONTANA PLAYERS!!!i.e.-Carroll College(4X National Champions), U of M(8 STRAIT bIG sKY titles!!!) I Hope those coaches don't turn Bozeman into BOZ- ANGELES even further. YOUR THOUGHTS!
BearBac by chance?
Nah, he would have been in the smack forum.

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:05 am
by DriftCat
Thats what I thought originally but the typing style seems to be very similar.

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:24 am
by catamaran
Not enough misspellings to be CrapSAC
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:24 am
by HelenaCat95
I have no doubt that they are very solid players. I look forward to seeing them in a Bobcat uniform. I am also convinced that many of them will be awarded scholarships either this year, or before next fall.
But if GrizNDigger is so convinced that they are very solid players, why didn't the Griz offer them a scholarship?

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:45 am
by 083190
Part of the recruiting philosophy is to not be Costco and offer discounted(partial) scholarships to Montana kids. They identify the best prospects that fit need areas and offer full rides. That may work out to between 4 and 10 kids. Some will come, some won't. Another group of kids are asked to walk-on and "earn" a scholarship. That has been very effective. Brant Birkland, Bobby Daly and Aaron Papich to name few. In any given year there are approximately 10-12 kids in the state who have Big Sky ability. A couple of those may go to a higher level. The bottom line for any program is to increase the level of success. Montana has a finite number of kids with the ability to play at a 1-AA level. The question is: Would you rather have all Montana kids and get spanked, or take select kids and win? We would all like to see an all Montana team, it just isn't realistic! Carroll is a good NAIA program, but nowhere near 1-AA.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:59 am
by catamaran
Our strategy isn't any different than the Griz. Most of both teams' Montana kids are given partials or "preferred walk ons" with the chance to earn their full ride
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:16 am
by SonomaCat
Moving to smack board ... and judging by the poor writing and spelling skills ... it probably is bb. This username will likely be banned soon unless they can prove otherwise.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:19 am
by LTown Cat
I would be willing to bet that over half of the in-state players that UM has started as walk-ons or non-scholarship players. Like it or not, we don't have as high of a level of competition in our high schools as the metropolitan areas and most of our kids have to prove to the coaches that they can play against that level of competition before the coaches will give them a scholarship---that is just the way it works, even at UM.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:44 am
by Billings_Griz
Bay Area Cat wrote: This username will likely be banned soon unless they can prove otherwise.
Guilty until proven innocent. Good one.

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:38 am
by longhorn_22
Billings_Griz wrote:Bay Area Cat wrote: This username will likely be banned soon unless they can prove otherwise.
Guilty until proven innocent. Good one.

That's how everything else in the justice system works in America, don't ya know?
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:45 am
by SonomaCat
Billings_Griz wrote:Bay Area Cat wrote: This username will likely be banned soon unless they can prove otherwise.
Guilty until proven innocent. Good one.

If it quacks like a duck ... and is trying to circumvent our privately owned website's rules ... then yes.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:48 pm
by Billings_Griz
Bay Area Cat wrote:Billings_Griz wrote:Bay Area Cat wrote: This username will likely be banned soon unless they can prove otherwise.
Guilty until proven innocent. Good one.

If it quacks like a duck ... and is trying to circumvent our privately owned website's rules ... then yes.
Deep down, you like bearbac. C'mon admit it.

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:58 pm
by DriftCat
Its pretty funny (if indeed it is BB) that he made it all of one post before being discovered.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:51 pm
by SonomaCat
Billings_Griz wrote:Bay Area Cat wrote:Billings_Griz wrote:Bay Area Cat wrote: This username will likely be banned soon unless they can prove otherwise.
Guilty until proven innocent. Good one.

If it quacks like a duck ... and is trying to circumvent our privately owned website's rules ... then yes.
Deep down, you like bearbac. C'mon admit it.

Who?
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:16 pm
by Grizlaw
MM7CAT wrote:Its pretty funny (if indeed it is BB) that he made it all of one post before being discovered.
I don't remember the screen name, but I vaguely recall that the poster formerly known as Wolfman/AZ/all his other names once had a screen name on egriz that was discovered
before he made
any posts.
(The name was listed at the bottom of the main screen, where it shows the name of the "newest user." A poster noticed it and pointed it out in a thread before the guy even made his first post, and mentioned that it sounded like a name AZ would use. After a few posts, it was obvious that it was AZ, and the account got deleted.)