Friz vs Ducks

BobCatFan · Post by **BobCatFan** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 5:38 pm

I found this on Yahoo to be interest about the game.

"The Grizzlies (1-1) stayed close early but weren't consistent enough on offense.

Bowling Green transfer Jason Washington was 10-for-23 passing for 85 yards for Montana, which beat Fort Lewis 55-0 last week and is ranked third in Division I-AA. Tailback Lex Hilliard had just 15 yards on 13 carries."

BobCatFan · Post by **BobCatFan** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 5:49 pm

Man. Things on Egriz are bad. They are even picking on BH.

mquast53000 · Post by **mquast53000** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:27 am

I wasn’t surprised about Washington’s performance, but I was really surprised with Lex’s. I really thought Lex would have racked up at least 50 yards in the game.
We won’t know how good or bad the Griz are until they take the field against South Dakota State. This weekend’s game will tell us more about the Griz then the previous two weekends.

Hell's Bells · Post by **Hell's Bells** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:41 am

mquast53000 wrote:I wasn’t surprised about Washington’s performance, but I was really surprised with Lex’s. I really thought Lex would have racked up at least 50 yards in the game.
We won’t know how good or bad the Griz are until they take the field against South Dakota State. This weekend’s game will tell us more about the Griz then the previous two weekends.

lex lost a good amount of yards covering up a fumble from who??? Jason Washington

i hope they play that way during bobcat-griz

Grizlaw · Post by **Grizlaw** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:46 am

Hell's Bells wrote:
mquast53000 wrote:I wasn’t surprised about Washington’s performance, but I was really surprised with Lex’s. I really thought Lex would have racked up at least 50 yards in the game.
We won’t know how good or bad the Griz are until they take the field against South Dakota State. This weekend’s game will tell us more about the Griz then the previous two weekends.
lex lost a good amount of yards covering up a fumble from who??? Jason Washington

i hope they play that way during bobcat-griz

I didn't see the play (or any of the game, for that matter), but just as a matter of statistics, how would that be scored? If Washington fumbles and Lex falls on the ball ten yards behind the line of scrimmage, is that really treated as a carry for -10 by Lex? It doesn't seem right, but I don't know the rule...

UMclassof2002 · Post by **UMclassof2002** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:47 am

Grizlaw wrote:
Hell's Bells wrote:
mquast53000 wrote:I wasn’t surprised about Washington’s performance, but I was really surprised with Lex’s. I really thought Lex would have racked up at least 50 yards in the game.
We won’t know how good or bad the Griz are until they take the field against South Dakota State. This weekend’s game will tell us more about the Griz then the previous two weekends.
lex lost a good amount of yards covering up a fumble from who??? Jason Washington

i hope they play that way during bobcat-griz
I didn't see the play (or any of the game, for that matter), but just as a matter of statistics, how would that be scored? If Washington fumbles and Lex falls on the ball ten yards behind the line of scrimmage, is that really treated as a carry for -10 by Lex? It doesn't seem right, but I don't know the rule...

It wasn't a fumble per se. Jason went to the line to change the protection and while he was up there the ball was snapped to no one. Lex fell on it.

Hell's Bells · Post by **Hell's Bells** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:05 pm

UMclassof2002 wrote:
Grizlaw wrote:
Hell's Bells wrote:
mquast53000 wrote:I wasn’t surprised about Washington’s performance, but I was really surprised with Lex’s. I really thought Lex would have racked up at least 50 yards in the game.
We won’t know how good or bad the Griz are until they take the field against South Dakota State. This weekend’s game will tell us more about the Griz then the previous two weekends.
lex lost a good amount of yards covering up a fumble from who??? Jason Washington

i hope they play that way during bobcat-griz
I didn't see the play (or any of the game, for that matter), but just as a matter of statistics, how would that be scored? If Washington fumbles and Lex falls on the ball ten yards behind the line of scrimmage, is that really treated as a carry for -10 by Lex? It doesn't seem right, but I don't know the rule...
It wasn't a fumble per se. Jason went to the line to change the protection and while he was up there the ball was snapped to no one. Lex fell on it.

i guess we can thank the croud at autzen for that one

El_Gato · Post by **El_Gato** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:07 pm

Not that it matters in the grand scheme of things, but a play like that should be treated simply as a loss to the teams total yardage without being hung on a specific player.

Another one of these statistical anomalies to me is that receivers should be charged with interceptions whenever they have a pass get away from them and ends up getting picked. I know it would be subjective, but it would be similar to the error/hit rulings in baseball. I just hate seeing a QB put the ball right on the money only to have the receiver turn it into an interception...

mquast53000 · Post by **mquast53000** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:50 pm

Lex had 13 carries for 15 yards a 1.2 average. If he had 10 more yards he would have averaged 1.9 yards per carry. That still is poor. Lex did not have a very good showing whether he had 15 or 25 yards.

Post by **kmax** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:09 pm

El_Gato wrote:Not that it matters in the grand scheme of things, but a play like that should be treated simply as a loss to the teams total yardage without being hung on a specific player.

Agreed, and I think in many cases it is. Pretty sure from looking at the stats from the MSU-SFA game that is how they scored the bad snap on the punt that the punter kicked out of the endzone.

Hell's Bells · Post by **Hell's Bells** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:18 pm

mquast53000 wrote:Lex had 13 carries for 15 yards a 1.2 average. If he had 10 more yards he would have averaged 1.9 yards per carry. That still is poor. Lex did not have a very good showing whether he had 15 or 25 yards.

I noticed how the announcers when the game was carried on tv were quick to say how good lex was and blamed his lack of yards on the O line and the quick linemen of the ducks.

But this has to be the quote of the week
I might have underestimated the speed of their defensive line, just because of their size," said Washington

they are fast - no kidding i think the chatboards knew more about that then JW

http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2005 ... orts01.txt

UMclassof2002 · Post by **UMclassof2002** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:47 pm

As I believe Gato said over on eGriz, this game really tells us nothing about the Griz other than their Defense is better than the score indicated. SDSU is the first relevant game we will play this year. I have a feeling, however, that we will struggle to move the ball somewhat this year. Could be some close, low scoring games won by the team that doesn't make the big mistake.

gtapp · Post by **gtapp** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:33 pm

UMclassof2002 wrote:As I believe Gato said over on eGriz, this game really tells us nothing about the Griz other than their Defense is better than the score indicated. SDSU is the first relevant game we will play this year. I have a feeling, however, that we will struggle to move the ball somewhat this year. Could be some close, low scoring games won by the team that doesn't make the big mistake.

I am not sure that this was not a better gauge of the Griz than SDSU. SDSU is carrying 42 scholarships this year (up from 36 last year). OU is a lower tier D-1 but SDSU is a lower tier D-1AA. You may not know what you really have until conference play.

jagur1 · Post by **jagur1** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:40 pm

G how can SDSU be a lower ranked 1-aa when they come in at #16 out of the 117 1-aa schools? Does that make the cats a lower division 1-aa team becouse they only spend brief periods of time in the top 25.

Platinumcat · Post by **Platinumcat** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:50 pm

jaqur1,
What poll are you looking at? The Sports Network has them listed at the bottom fo the "also receiving votes" list. No where close to the #16 team.

El_Gato · Post by **El_Gato** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:24 pm

Methinks Jag smoketh too much and hath confused NDSU with SDSU. Of course, I'm not sure Geography 101 is a required course over at dUMb.

UMclassof2002 · Post by **UMclassof2002** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:58 am

gtapp wrote:OU is a lower tier D-1 .

Uh, maybe not.

Idaho is a lower tier D-I. Oregon is a legit BCS school.

hokeyfine · Post by **hokeyfine** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:10 am

i don't think the griz get a real matchup this weekend. 20 less scholarships, sdsu still won't be a test. i'm afraid it won't be until conference starts. griz win this one, not quite 55-0, .....21-10.

Grizlaw · Post by **Grizlaw** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:14 am

Didn't SDSU take the Cats to the wire last year?

I don't intend that as smack; I'm just saying, 20 fewer scholarships or no, SDSU might be a better team than some BSC teams.

Post by **kmax** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:24 am

Grizlaw wrote:Didn't SDSU take the Cats to the wire last year?

I don't intend that as smack; I'm just saying, 20 fewer scholarships or no, SDSU might be a better team than some BSC teams.

Yes they did. They had a really good QB though that has graduated so I am not sure if they are as good this year. They may be, but he was the one that kept them in that game for the most part.