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Cat Grad
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by Cat Grad » Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:14 pm
bearBAC wrote:Nick wrote:
Would those be the same records that show the Griz as
19-3-1against the Bobcats in those years?

19-3-1
So do the kittens get credit for a win on the TIE?
Okay, you rocket scientists.
1). What is the Cat-Griz record for the last 51 years

2). Were the Fizzlies to go 15-0 and win the national championship every year, how many years would it take the Fizzlies to reach an overall winning record?
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by Grizlaw » Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:51 pm
Cat Grad wrote:Okay, you rocket scientists.
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2). Were the Fizzlies to go 15-0 and win the national championship every year, how many years would it take the Fizzlies to reach an overall winning record?
If you're going to mockingly call anyone a "rocket scientist" in this debate, let's at least look at the whole picture. In other words:
3). Were the Cats to spend 26 years playing in the Pac 10, what would
their overall record be after that time?
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by Cat Grad » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:01 pm
Grizlaw wrote:Cat Grad wrote:Okay, you rocket scientists.
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2). Were the Fizzlies to go 15-0 and win the national championship every year, how many years would it take the Fizzlies to reach an overall winning record?
If you're going to mockingly call anyone a "rocket scientist" in this debate, let's at least look at the whole picture. In other words:
3). Were the Cats to spend 26 years playing in the Pac 10, what would
their overall record be after that time?
But WE didn't

What is YOUR record

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by Cat Grad » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:05 pm
...that's right, ya'll tucked YOUR tail between YOUR legs and came down to our level of competition AFTER ya'll saw us going to bowl games. Then, when it was a reasonably level playing field as far as resources, we ran off on a rather lengthy winning streak to make the last 51 year record 26-25 CATS! And that includes a 16 game streak of yours...
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by Cat Grad » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:16 pm
Ya'll really want to get embarrassed, consider this: while ya'll were members of the PAC-10 (your choice of conference designation) we actually beat ya'll more than once in a while

You were pathetic, you chose to find a "comfort level" and that's all you'll ever aspire to be. Must have really killed your ancestors in 29

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by BR GRIZ » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:29 pm
Cat Grad wrote:BR GRIZ wrote:lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:GrizinWashington wrote:lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:GrizinWashington wrote:catamaran wrote:Since reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, I'll say it a little more generically. Washington and Nebraska won multiple national championships through the 80's and 90's (unlike those Fizzles but much like the Cats of the 70's until '84). I don't think anyone is pinning their life savings on that happening any time soon. Therefore, when you go downhill it isn't a slow erosion a lot of times but a one season turn, of which is difficult to return from.
Washington? Multiple national championships? They have one "shared" championship (AP chose Miami, coaches Washington). The Griz have double that number. And have played in 5 times more NC games than Washington.
How many Rose Bowl's have the griz been in? How about Washington? How many has Washington won?
I'm sorry. I didn't realize this was a discussion about Rose Bowls. I could have sworn the conversation was about reading comprehension and national championships won. My fault, apparently.
My point is that the talent level of I-A is clearly superior to I-AA whether many of us like to admit it or not.
To compare the respective histories of the two schools competition-wise and performance-wise seems ridiculous and does your argument no good.
A championship in I-AA can't compare to I-A when you consider the competition and talent involved. In the griz's best years 1995 and 2001, they would have been lucky to even hold the jock straps of the winning teams of the mid-lower tiered bowls. That would apply to all of the NC teams in the I-AA.
Maybe using common sense when comparing championships of the respective football levels would do your argument some good. If you look at the history of national championships in football, it would make a team like Yale seem like the premier football team of college football. Teams like Ohio State, USC, and Miami would all have a nice laugh at that don't you think?
Griz fans applaud you. Comparing an NAIA and DII championship to a I-AA championship makes people laugh, and should be disregarded. When you use common sense, the Griz have twice as many championships as the Cats.

I know this is the smack thread, but I've got to point out that 1-AA did not happen until 1978; prior to that time there was only two classifications--and getting the small college national championship in 1976 makes both of the Fizzlies championships look like--well, using your logic, we won the 1-AA, DII and the mid-major championship all in one year

Do I still need to point out the only nonBCS league in existence WAY back in the day was the WAC? All the other wannabe conferences competed for the DII national championship, and I don't think any Fizzlies are embarrassed by the fact a couple of their teams under Swarthout made it to the Camellia Bowl (after we did

) We actually made it to a real bowl game, the Bluebonnet, and didn't you need one of your former professors to request his school go all the way to Tokyo to get slapped around by Army...Geeezzzz, I can use creative math too! This means we're not just ahead of the Fizzlies by one national championship, we're up by...
It wasn't my logic, it was lifeloyal's which I just applied to the Cats. Personally, I think a championship is a championship regardless of the classification. Otherwise, college football as a whole should be disregarded because the "talent and competion" is so much better in the NFL.
I too remember the Griz getting slapped around by Army in the Mirage Bowl, but I'm not sure what you mean by the reference to the former professor. I'm assuming you're talking about Mike Mansfield, but I don't remember a controversy over the Griz going to Japan. Or was the controversy (aka another case of Griz envy) only in Bozeman because he didn't ask for the Cats?

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by Grizlaw » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:30 pm
Cat Grad wrote:Ya'll really want to get embarrassed, consider this: while ya'll were members of the PAC-10 (your choice of conference designation) we actually beat ya'll more than once in a while

You were pathetic, you chose to find a "comfort level" and that's all you'll ever aspire to be. Must have really killed your ancestors in 29

Embarassed? I'm not embarassed; we've got two national titles in the last eleven years. How 'bout you?
As for what we "aspire to be," it's pretty funny you should bring that up, actually. What do the
Cats aspire to be? There are lots of ways you could phrase your answer, but you'd be lying if you said "as successful as the Griz" wasn't one of them.
Regards,
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by Cat Grad » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:34 pm
Oh come on! You know Mansfield specifically asked for his school

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by BR GRIZ » Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:00 pm
Cat Grad wrote:Oh come on! You know Mansfield specifically asked for his school

Yes. But I don't see the controversy, when the US is going to play an exhibition college football game in Japan, in the US Ambassador to Japan requesting one of the teams being his alma mater. Again, any controversy is only in the minds of the Cats. This is similar to one of those "If we had a Denny & Phyllis Washington we'd have decent facilities" arguments, and actually boils down to another case of Cat envy of Griz alums.

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by catamaran » Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:29 pm
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by Nick » Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:31 pm
Cat Grad wrote:Ya'll really want to get embarrassed, consider this: while ya'll were members of the PAC-10 (your choice of conference designation) we actually beat ya'll more than once in a while

You were pathetic, you chose to find a "comfort level" and that's all you'll ever aspire to be. Must have really killed your ancestors in 29

Actually, as stated earlier you only beat us 3 out of 24 times during those years........so.........who does that embarrass?

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by Cat Grad » Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:45 pm
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by Nick » Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:52 pm
did you miss your argument get annihlated?
3 out of 24!!!!
slow day at home?
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by Cat Grad » Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:56 pm
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by Grizlaw » Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:59 pm
Nick wrote:did you miss your argument get annihlated?
3 out of 24!!!!
slow day at home?
I laughed.
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by Swilly3224 » Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:06 pm
catamaran wrote:

You have to come up with something new, the yawn is getting out dated
Basketball season is right around the corner
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by catamaran » Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:05 am
Swilly3224 wrote:catamaran wrote:

You have to come up with something new, the yawn is getting out dated
Basketball season is right around the corner
If Swilly talks in the woods but nobody is around to hear it, is he still a whiny biatch?
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