Basketball

[whitetrashgriz]

I don't think there's any doubt that the Griz have dominated BSC sports in general, and particularly football. Consider what is without doubt the most important - playoffs.

As for what "championships" don't count, it appears the task is left to me.

Somewhere around 50 years ago, you won your first supposed "national championship", which was actually some obscure bowl, with an even more obscure tie-breaker point system. The game ended in a 0:0 tie!

A few years later, you won a NAIA title.

Finally, about 20 years ago, you won a legitimate I-AA title... well done. That's... ONE!

ya, but the griz are gay so your championships dont count.

[MaZooLaGriz]

the griz are gay so your championships dont count.

WTF? I guess that would be "cute" if it wasn't such a twist from the tone of the previous posts, and way too far from any connection with reality to constitute humor.

[Ponycat]

ya, but the griz are gay so your championships dont count.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

[MaZooLaGriz]

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

Now, THAT'S funny!

[spider]

I don't think there's any doubt that the Griz have dominated BSC sports in general, and particularly football. Consider what is without doubt the most important - playoffs.

As for what "championships" don't count, it appears the task is left to me.

Somewhere around 50 years ago, you won your first supposed "national championship", which was actually some obscure bowl, with an even more obscure tie-breaker point system. The game ended in a 0:0 tie!

A few years later, you won a NAIA title.

Finally, about 20 years ago, you won a legitimate I-AA title... well done. That's... ONE!

We have another "know-it-all" who, in fact, knows nothing. NAIA awarded us the championship in the 50's (I can provide a link if your dumbass doesn't get it), our second was Division II, and the third was Division I-AA.

You guys are unbelievable.

[MaZooLaGriz]

NAIA awarded us the championship in the 50's, our second was Division II, and the third was Division I-AA.

I stand corrected. Point was, and is, that apples-to-apples, you have ONE NC.

Maybe you guys get lost in your own frustration, so let's try some perspective. As I mentioned to Toddler, imagine the Griz going to I-A and claiming two NC's. Can you just hear the laughter? If so, you're beginning to understand why we laugh when you hold up "THREE NC's!!" to our two I-AA's.

Not to mention that you tout your one I-AA NC which was over 20 years ago, but find no problem ignoring Griz/Cat prior to 2001.

[Hell's Bells]

NAIA awarded us the championship in the 50's, our second was Division II, and the third was Division I-AA.

I stand corrected. Point was, and is, that apples-to-apples, you have ONE NC.

Maybe you guys get lost in your own frustration, so let's try some perspective. As I mentioned to Toddler, imagine the Griz going to I-A and claiming two NC's. Can you just hear the laughter? If so, you're beginning to understand why we laugh when you hold up "THREE NC's!!" to our two.

Not to mention that you poo-poo mention that your I-AA NC was over 20 years ago, but find no problem ignoring Griz/Cat prior to four years ago.

yes msla you are correct
compairing apples to apples we have 4 ncs you have one

[MaZooLaGriz]

we have 4 ncs you have one

You're a silly one, Bells.
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SILLY:
1 archaic: HELPLESS, WEAK
2 a : PLAIN b obsolete : lowly in station : HUMBLE
3 a : weak in intellect : FOOLISH b : exhibiting or indicative of a lack of common sense or sound judgment *a very silly mistake* c : TRIFLING, FRIVOLOUS
4 : being stunned or dazed
synonyms see SIMPLE

[MSU Toddler]

my only further comment on this is that winning a title in 1984 doesn't seem to count "cause it was so long ago" to most griz. what is up with that? do NC's expire after some time?

[MaZooLaGriz]

winning a title in 1984 doesn't seem to count "cause it was so long ago" to most griz.

As I said: "Well done". Once.

[MSU Toddler]

this is progress. i think we have reached agreement on ONE issue here. what is important to recognize is that we agree that football was played beyond 20 years ago. i think that may factor into some of this discussion...but, i'm probably wrong.

continue the battle....

[MaZooLaGriz]

continue the battle

Always!

[Hell's Bells]

we have 4 ncs you have one

You're a silly one, Bells.
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SILLY:
1 archaic: HELPLESS, WEAK
2 a : PLAIN b obsolete : lowly in station : HUMBLE
3 a : weak in intellect : FOOLISH b : exhibiting or indicative of a lack of common sense or sound judgment *a very silly mistake* c : TRIFLING, FRIVOLOUS
4 : being stunned or dazed
synonyms see SIMPLE

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[catamaran]

So if we like to have a pi$$ing contest over your two I-AA to our one, where are your NAIA and D-II trophies....oh that's right you don't have them

[Grizlaw]

I stand corrected. Point was, and is, that apples-to-apples, you have ONE NC.

Maybe you guys get lost in your own frustration, so let's try some perspective. As I mentioned to Toddler, imagine the Griz going to I-A and claiming two NC's. Can you just hear the laughter? If so, you're beginning to understand why we laugh when you hold up "THREE NC's!!" to our two I-AA's.

Not that I don't love slamming the Cats as much as any other good Griz fan, but I think you also have to keep in mind that I-AA didn't even exist until 1978, and in 1976 (when the Cats won their D-II title), many of the current I-AA teams were in Div. II. So I would say that comparing their 1976 title to a I-AA title is an apples-to-apples comparison.

The 1956 title I'm not as sure about. The bottom line is, they won a title at the level at which they were playing at the time, and they deserve credit for that. However, I would say that winning a I-AA title is more of an achievement than the Cats' 1956 title was.

I guess what I'm saying, in a roundabout way, is that in my mind, the score in the national titles race is 2-2, with the Cats having a third title that's worth something, but not quite equivalent to a third I-AA title. So the Cats are winning the race, for now -- if the Griz were to win a third I-AA title, then we would be winning the race, IMO.

All of this is my opinion, of course, and I don't really expect anyone on either side of this debate to agree with me 100%.

--GL

[catamaran]

I stand corrected. Point was, and is, that apples-to-apples, you have ONE NC.

Maybe you guys get lost in your own frustration, so let's try some perspective. As I mentioned to Toddler, imagine the Griz going to I-A and claiming two NC's. Can you just hear the laughter? If so, you're beginning to understand why we laugh when you hold up "THREE NC's!!" to our two I-AA's.

Not that I don't love slamming the Cats as much as any other good Griz fan, but I think you also have to keep in mind that I-AA didn't even exist until 1978, and in 1976 (when the Cats won their D-II title), many of the current I-AA teams were in Div. II. So I would say that comparing their 1976 title to a I-AA title is an apples-to-apples comparison.

The 1956 title I'm not as sure about. The bottom line is, they won a title at the level at which they were playing at the time, and they deserve credit for that. However, I would say that winning a I-AA title is more of an achievement than the Cats' 1956 title was.

I guess what I'm saying, in a roundabout way, is that in my mind, the score in the national titles race is 2-2, with the Cats having a third title that's worth something, but not quite equivalent to a third I-AA title. So the Cats are winning the race, for now -- if the Griz were to win a third I-AA title, then we would be winning the race, IMO.

All of this is my opinion, of course, and I don't really expect anyone on either side of this debate to agree with me 100%.

--GL

[Grizlaw]

Please don't do that again. I like being able to show my face around Missoula...

[spider]

I stand corrected. Point was, and is, that apples-to-apples, you have ONE NC.

Maybe you guys get lost in your own frustration, so let's try some perspective. As I mentioned to Toddler, imagine the Griz going to I-A and claiming two NC's. Can you just hear the laughter? If so, you're beginning to understand why we laugh when you hold up "THREE NC's!!" to our two I-AA's.

Not that I don't love slamming the Cats as much as any other good Griz fan, but I think you also have to keep in mind that I-AA didn't even exist until 1978, and in 1976 (when the Cats won their D-II title), many of the current I-AA teams were in Div. II. So I would say that comparing their 1976 title to a I-AA title is an apples-to-apples comparison.

The 1956 title I'm not as sure about. The bottom line is, they won a title at the level at which they were playing at the time, and they deserve credit for that. However, I would say that winning a I-AA title is more of an achievement than the Cats' 1956 title was.

I guess what I'm saying, in a roundabout way, is that in my mind, the score in the national titles race is 2-2, with the Cats having a third title that's worth something, but not quite equivalent to a third I-AA title. So the Cats are winning the race, for now -- if the Griz were to win a third I-AA title, then we would be winning the race, IMO.

All of this is my opinion, of course, and I don't really expect anyone on either side of this debate to agree with me 100%.

--GL

Holy objective viewpoint GL! A breath of fresh air. Ahhhhhhhhhhh.

[catamaran]

Please don't do that again. I like being able to show my face around Missoula...

That's what you get for being the "rational Griz"

[jagur1]

On the other hand that was some crappy smack.