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Bcat · Post by **Bcat** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:17 pm

I think you all missed the point here. While I am a Cat fan all the way through, I do pull for MT teams when not playing the Cats. The jiz had a great game, played well, threw in some 2nd stringers and let them play with no restraints, fine by me in playoffs.
Point: as many of my local jiz fans have pointed out to me, jizzers want to top 60 points this seasons, anybody know why? Nonetheless, when your game is on and you are scoring, tough to put the brakes on.

Eastcoastgriz · Post by **Eastcoastgriz** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:26 pm

Bcat wrote:I think you all missed the point here. While I am a Cat fan all the way through, I do pull for MT teams when not playing the Cats. The jiz had a great game, played well, threw in some 2nd stringers and let them play with no restraints, fine by me in playoffs.
Point: as many of my local jiz fans have pointed out to me, jizzers want to top 60 points this seasons, anybody know why? Nonetheless, when your game is on and you are scoring, tough to put the brakes on.

??? We could of easily scored 60 last week but didn't. I've not heard anyone talking about scoring 60 points in a single game.

Bcat · Post by **Bcat** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 8:53 pm

That was the only dissapointment from the game I heard this weekend from my Jizzer fan friends/associates, most of which attended the game. I don't take issue with it, just stating the facts.

Eastcoastgriz · Post by **Eastcoastgriz** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 9:44 pm

Bcat wrote:That was the only dissapointment from the game I heard this weekend from my Jizzer fan friends/associates, most of which attended the game. I don't take issue with it, just stating the facts.

Trust me no GRIZ fan was disappointed with the game last week. Again, other than your GRIZ "friends", I havent heard any thing about wanting to score 60 points. What would be the point?

Bcat · Post by **Bcat** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:12 pm

Eastcoast, as stated in earlier posts, I must be subjected to a whole league of jiz fans that some jizzers don't think like or don't support. That's good news to me! Yet, some still have an obsession with a 60+ game. I don't know, perhaps it represents the soon to come price of oil per barrel going to $60.00? You figure it out. I’m leaving my opinion out and just reporting the facts. You can now empathize with me, we agree! I thought the jiz had a great game, even enjoyed watching it, then had to listen to some whining about not scoring 60+. I agree, anyone who was disappointed with the game should be denounced as a jiz fan! Nice to agree with you on a few points.

MSU01 · Post by **MSU01** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:01 pm

Yet, some still have an obsession with a 60+ game

MSU 60
NAU 14

Can you say Bobcat envy?

ONLY JOKING GRIZ FANS!!!

Eastcoastgriz · Post by **Eastcoastgriz** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:51 am

MSU01 wrote:
Yet, some still have an obsession with a 60+ game
MSU 60
NAU 14

Can you say Bobcat envy? ONLY JOKING GRIZ FANS!!!

catatac · Post by **catatac** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 10:55 am

Eastcoastgriz wrote:
WYCAT wrote:
Eastcoastgriz wrote:We scored at will during the game. How many points did we score in the 4th quarter?? When you have your 2nd and 3rd string players in, isnt it a good idea to let them play.

Tell me wycat, at what point have you scored two many points?
It isn't about scoring points it is how you do it. 99 out of 100 coaches tell you with Lex Hilliard and company in the backfield up huge, or even 16 against the Cats, you don't try bombs or trick plays. That just isn't how the game was meant to be played.
Up by 15 at the end of the 3rd quarter playing the cats is not the time you let up. 99 out of 100 coaches would tell you to do what it takes to put scores on the board

I agree with that one. If we had the Griz down like that, I'd be cheering for us to pour it on big time. Wouldn't relax unless we had AT LEAST a 4 TD lead in the 4th... but that's just me.

WYCAT · Post by **WYCAT** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:37 am

catatac wrote:
Eastcoastgriz wrote:
WYCAT wrote:
Eastcoastgriz wrote:We scored at will during the game. How many points did we score in the 4th quarter?? When you have your 2nd and 3rd string players in, isnt it a good idea to let them play.

Tell me wycat, at what point have you scored two many points?
It isn't about scoring points it is how you do it. 99 out of 100 coaches tell you with Lex Hilliard and company in the backfield up huge, or even 16 against the Cats, you don't try bombs or trick plays. That just isn't how the game was meant to be played.
Up by 15 at the end of the 3rd quarter playing the cats is not the time you let up. 99 out of 100 coaches would tell you to do what it takes to put scores on the board
I agree with that one. If we had the Griz down like that, I'd be cheering for us to pour it on big time. Wouldn't relax unless we had AT LEAST a 4 TD lead in the 4th... but that's just me.

I wasn't talking about being up 15 in the 3rd quarter. I was referring to the last 4 minutes or so of the game. Big difference ECG!

Eastcoastgriz · Post by **Eastcoastgriz** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:31 pm

WYCAT wrote:
catatac wrote:
Eastcoastgriz wrote:
WYCAT wrote:
Eastcoastgriz wrote:We scored at will during the game. How many points did we score in the 4th quarter?? When you have your 2nd and 3rd string players in, isnt it a good idea to let them play.

Tell me wycat, at what point have you scored two many points?
It isn't about scoring points it is how you do it. 99 out of 100 coaches tell you with Lex Hilliard and company in the backfield up huge, or even 16 against the Cats, you don't try bombs or trick plays. That just isn't how the game was meant to be played.
Up by 15 at the end of the 3rd quarter playing the cats is not the time you let up. 99 out of 100 coaches would tell you to do what it takes to put scores on the board
I agree with that one. If we had the Griz down like that, I'd be cheering for us to pour it on big time. Wouldn't relax unless we had AT LEAST a 4 TD lead in the 4th... but that's just me.
I wasn't talking about being up 15 in the 3rd quarter. I was referring to the last 4 minutes or so of the game. Big difference ECG!

Are you telling me the cats are unable to score two touchdowns in 4 minutes???

WYCAT · Post by **WYCAT** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:20 pm

My final post on this subject.

Yes the Cats could have scored 2 TD's in the last 4 minutes. That is beside the point. We had proven unable to stop Lex all day long. With the clock as your biggest enemy at that point you hand it off to Lex and let him run over, around, or through our Defense like he had all day. You don't try 2 dipsty doodle plays like Baby called. The scoring is not my complaint it was how he tried to score.

Eastcoastgriz · Post by **Eastcoastgriz** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:53 pm

WYCAT wrote:My final post on this subject.

Yes the Cats could have scored 2 TD's in the last 4 minutes. That is beside the point. We had proven unable to stop Lex all day long. With the clock as your biggest enemy at that point you hand it off to Lex and let him run over, around, or through our Defense like he had all day. You don't try 2 dipsty doodle plays like Baby called. The scoring is not my complaint it was how he tried to score.

The point is the GRIZ felt they needed to score. PERIOD. Doesn't matter how it gets done. Doesn't matter if the visiting team fans like it. Score points - Win the Game!!!!

catatac · Post by **catatac** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:31 pm

Not that my input is needed or probably even wanted here but IMO, it wasn't really too bad of a "rub it in" move, but rather just a not very smart coaching call. But that's just me, Mr. Armchair...

BozoneCat · Post by **BozoneCat** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:44 pm

Eastcoastgriz wrote:
WYCAT wrote:My final post on this subject.

Yes the Cats could have scored 2 TD's in the last 4 minutes. That is beside the point. We had proven unable to stop Lex all day long. With the clock as your biggest enemy at that point you hand it off to Lex and let him run over, around, or through our Defense like he had all day. You don't try 2 dipsty doodle plays like Baby called. The scoring is not my complaint it was how he tried to score.
The point is the GRIZ felt they needed to score. PERIOD. Doesn't matter how it gets done. Doesn't matter if the visiting team fans like it. Score points - Win the Game!!!!

The real point is that the griz were up by 16 and had run over our defense all day. You give Lex the ball and let him run it, then give it to him again on 3rd down. If a miracle happened and our defense actually made a stop, you kick the chip-shot field goal and go up by 3 scores. Even Lulay could not come back from that. Face it, Hack was just trying a subtle way to rub it in.

Same with the game last week. No, there is nothing wrong with letting your subs go out and play. I'm not saying you shouldn't ever throw a pass and just run it every play. What was wrong was throwing the ball 30 yards downfield when you are up by 50 points. If you want to throw, stick to short out routes and the like. I don't think it was anything horrible about it, but it just isn't the classiest way to win a ballgame that is already won. Their players were embarrassed and beaten - you don't need to rub it in any more.

Bozgriz · Post by **Bozgriz** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:49 pm

BozoneCat wrote:
Eastcoastgriz wrote:
WYCAT wrote:My final post on this subject.

Yes the Cats could have scored 2 TD's in the last 4 minutes. That is beside the point. We had proven unable to stop Lex all day long. With the clock as your biggest enemy at that point you hand it off to Lex and let him run over, around, or through our Defense like he had all day. You don't try 2 dipsty doodle plays like Baby called. The scoring is not my complaint it was how he tried to score.
The point is the GRIZ felt they needed to score. PERIOD. Doesn't matter how it gets done. Doesn't matter if the visiting team fans like it. Score points - Win the Game!!!!
The real point is that the griz were up by 16 and had run over our defense all day. You give Lex the ball and let him run it, then give it to him again on 3rd down. If a miracle happened and our defense actually made a stop, you kick the chip-shot field goal and go up by 3 scores. Even Lulay could not come back from that. Face it, Hack was just trying a subtle way to rub it in.

Same with the game last week. No, there is nothing wrong with letting your subs go out and play. I'm not saying you shouldn't ever throw a pass and just run it every play. What was wrong was throwing the ball 30 yards downfield when you are up by 50 points. If you want to throw, stick to short out routes and the like. I don't think it was anything horrible about it, but it just isn't the classiest way to win a ballgame that is already won. Their players were embarrassed and beaten - you don't need to rub it in any more.

Are you kidding me???

This crybaby stuff is getting old! If this situation was reversed and Griz fans were saying this, you would be all over them like ugly on an ape!!! I didn't see any cat fans mentioning the fact that Lulay was still in the game late in the 3rd quarter with a 53-14 lead at NAU...

So you aren't pissed that the Griz tried to score, just how they tried??? Do you know how stupid that sounds? In other words, if Ochs ran a play action pass and tossed it to Walden for the TD, that would be ok???

PLEASE!!!

BozoneCat · Post by **BozoneCat** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:55 pm

Hey, nobody is saying they should just kneel on the ball every play. Calling straight-forward conservative plays is the classy way to do it, nobody can get mad if we still can't stop that. Calling numerous trick plays does not classify. Baby was trying to rub it in, and you damn well know it.

The way these griz fans are arguing, you would think they have never seen their team win with class...

...ah, yes. The last coach to win with class in Missoula, who also happened to win a national championship, got booed mercilessly by the classy griz fans during the Cat/griz game.

Bozgriz · Post by **Bozgriz** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:06 am

BozoneCat wrote:Hey, nobody is saying they should just kneel on the ball every play. Calling straight-forward conservative plays is the classy way to do it, nobody can get mad if we still can't stop that. Calling numerous trick plays does not classify. Baby was trying to rub it in, and you damn well know it.

The way these griz fans are arguing, you would think they have never seen their team win with class...

...ah, yes. The last coach to win with class in Missoula, who also happened to win a national championship, got booed mercilessly by the classy griz fans during the Cat/griz game.

Numerous trick plays? I remember 2 halfback passes, one incomplete and one intercepted...why call straight-forward conservative plays with the game in doubt? Rubbing it in, I wish he was...

Seen the Griz win with class? Yes, against NAU we didn't run the score up and Bobby Hauck RAN into the stands after the game to present a very ill Coach Swarthout with the game ball...

The last coach to win with class in Missoula? You mean the guy who ran out of the last team meeting without returning to say good bye to his team so he could take a cell phone call???

Face it, you just want another excuse to take shots at the Griz. Fine, go ahead, I enjoy watching you guys get all fired up over perceived slights to the cats and now others. Makes you feel better about the cats. OK, I'll back off now and make my reservations in Missoula for the playoff game this weekend and you can do whatever it is cat fans do on Griz playoff weekends...

lee · Post by **lee** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 2:58 am

I agree with all of you. But did you see the band! They rocked! L

BWahlberg · Post by **BWahlberg** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 7:42 pm

I just wonder if the cats were in the opposite situation. Up by 16 with 4 min to go. And Kramer runs a few trick plays on a late drive.

Would that have been a classless and horrible coaching move in the Cats fans eyes then? Realising that your team was only up by two TD's against an offense that could effectivley move the ball?

If the shoe was on the other foot I doubt we'd be hearing any complaints.