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Part of Miami Coach's speech about stepping down due to the portal

Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 7:03 am
by nanacat
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1AhXUKpktk/

Seems like the whole thing is just a runaway train

Re: Part of Miami Coach's speech about stepping down due to the portal

Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 8:01 am
by Cataholic
nanacat wrote:
Tue May 06, 2025 7:03 am
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1AhXUKpktk/

Seems like the whole thing is just a runaway train
College athletics will never be the same. The only solution at this point is if government steps in and provides some type of criteria/rules for NIL to operate within.

Re: Part of Miami Coach's speech about stepping down due to the portal

Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 9:03 am
by MSU01
Cataholic wrote:
Tue May 06, 2025 8:01 am
nanacat wrote:
Tue May 06, 2025 7:03 am
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1AhXUKpktk/

Seems like the whole thing is just a runaway train
College athletics will never be the same. The only solution at this point is if government steps in and provides some type of criteria/rules for NIL to operate within.
It's hard to see how the government will successfully be able to step in even if they want to when every single court case seems to be ruled in favor of the players being able to make as much money as they can. It's undoubtedly true that college athletics will never go back to being what it was, we can rail against the portal and NIL all we want but it's the new reality and isn't going anywhere.

Re: Part of Miami Coach's speech about stepping down due to the portal

Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 9:16 am
by PortlandCat90
From a recent article in the WSJ:

"President Donald Trump is considering an executive order “that could increase scrutiny” of NIL payments and the future of college athletics.

NCAA leadership has taken multiple trips to Capitol Hill for discussions about NIL and college sports. Last month, leaders from across collegiate athletics took a trip to Washington, D.C. for College Sports Day. Nick Saban has also spoken in front of Congress about regulation, notably doing so in a roundtable hosted by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) last year.

NCAA president Charlie Baker and SEC commissioner Greg Sankey also spoke multiple times about the need for national legislation to help regulate NIL."

Looks like the defendants are lined up.

Re: Part of Miami Coach's speech about stepping down due to the portal

Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 10:22 am
by nanacat
Some guidelines are necessary. Not sure what that looks like but there's got to be some controls put in place.

Re: Part of Miami Coach's speech about stepping down due to the portal

Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 11:24 am
by Cataholic
MSU01 wrote:
Tue May 06, 2025 9:03 am
Cataholic wrote:
Tue May 06, 2025 8:01 am
nanacat wrote:
Tue May 06, 2025 7:03 am
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1AhXUKpktk/

Seems like the whole thing is just a runaway train
College athletics will never be the same. The only solution at this point is if government steps in and provides some type of criteria/rules for NIL to operate within.
It's hard to see how the government will successfully be able to step in even if they want to when every single court case seems to be ruled in favor of the players being able to make as much money as they can. It's undoubtedly true that college athletics will never go back to being what it was, we can rail against the portal and NIL all we want but it's the new reality and isn't going anywhere.
NIL and the portal are not going away, but establishing rules for every institution to follow is possible. Just like in professional sports, many leagues have salary caps to work within. With no rules, this “Wild West” environment will destroy any semblance of college athletics.

Re: Part of Miami Coach's speech about stepping down due to the portal

Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 11:41 am
by tetoncat
Cataholic wrote:
Tue May 06, 2025 11:24 am
MSU01 wrote:
Tue May 06, 2025 9:03 am
Cataholic wrote:
Tue May 06, 2025 8:01 am
nanacat wrote:
Tue May 06, 2025 7:03 am
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1AhXUKpktk/

Seems like the whole thing is just a runaway train
College athletics will never be the same. The only solution at this point is if government steps in and provides some type of criteria/rules for NIL to operate within.
It's hard to see how the government will successfully be able to step in even if they want to when every single court case seems to be ruled in favor of the players being able to make as much money as they can. It's undoubtedly true that college athletics will never go back to being what it was, we can rail against the portal and NIL all we want but it's the new reality and isn't going anywhere.
NIL and the portal are not going away, but establishing rules for every institution to follow is possible. Just like in professional sports, many leagues have salary caps to work within. With no rules, this “Wild West” environment will destroy any semblance of college athletics.
They will go away if it does destroy college athletics. It is all donor driven. If those funds dry up, or viewership drops enough to lower tv revenue significantly than change will come. While the NCAA deserves blame so do the power conferences that have driven consolidation in an attempt to control income and allowed the exorbitant coaches salaries that also pushed this spending fest.

Re: Part of Miami Coach's speech about stepping down due to the portal

Posted: Sat May 10, 2025 1:00 pm
by seataccat
I find it really rich that these guys run down these players for chasing NIL money. Div I college football has been a huge business for many years. Huge money has been made on the backs of these athletes. Coaches have been making and breaking promises to the players and institutions for decades. Now when the players get a level playing field everyone loses their mind and says it's ruining college sports. This is the unchecked capatilism that everyone worships.

Re: Part of Miami Coach's speech about stepping down due to the portal

Posted: Sun May 11, 2025 10:31 am
by allcat
seataccat wrote:
Sat May 10, 2025 1:00 pm
I find it really rich that these guys run down these players for chasing NIL money. Div I college football has been a huge business for many years. Huge money has been made on the backs of these athletes. Coaches have been making and breaking promises to the players and institutions for decades. Now when the players get a level playing field everyone loses their mind and says it's ruining college sports. This is the unchecked capatilism that everyone worships.
Name one sport that is a capitalist adventure through and through.

Re: Part of Miami Coach's speech about stepping down due to the portal

Posted: Sun May 11, 2025 12:40 pm
by seataccat
allcat wrote:
Sun May 11, 2025 10:31 am
seataccat wrote:
Sat May 10, 2025 1:00 pm
I find it really rich that these guys run down these players for chasing NIL money. Div I college football has been a huge business for many years. Huge money has been made on the backs of these athletes. Coaches have been making and breaking promises to the players and institutions for decades. Now when the players get a level playing field everyone loses their mind and says it's ruining college sports. This is the unchecked capatilism that everyone worships.
Name one sport that is a capitalist adventure through and through.
Uh what? How about all pro sports.

Re: Part of Miami Coach's speech about stepping down due to the portal

Posted: Sun May 11, 2025 12:53 pm
by allcat
seataccat wrote:
Sun May 11, 2025 12:40 pm
allcat wrote:
Sun May 11, 2025 10:31 am
seataccat wrote:
Sat May 10, 2025 1:00 pm
I find it really rich that these guys run down these players for chasing NIL money. Div I college football has been a huge business for many years. Huge money has been made on the backs of these athletes. Coaches have been making and breaking promises to the players and institutions for decades. Now when the players get a level playing field everyone loses their mind and says it's ruining college sports. This is the unchecked capatilism that everyone worships.
Name one sport that is a capitalist adventure through and through.
Uh what? How about all pro sports.
Oh, why do they have a draft? Why do they sign contracts?

Re: Part of Miami Coach's speech about stepping down due to the portal

Posted: Sun May 11, 2025 1:28 pm
by seataccat
allcat wrote:
Sun May 11, 2025 12:53 pm
seataccat wrote:
Sun May 11, 2025 12:40 pm
allcat wrote:
Sun May 11, 2025 10:31 am
seataccat wrote:
Sat May 10, 2025 1:00 pm
I find it really rich that these guys run down these players for chasing NIL money. Div I college football has been a huge business for many years. Huge money has been made on the backs of these athletes. Coaches have been making and breaking promises to the players and institutions for decades. Now when the players get a level playing field everyone loses their mind and says it's ruining college sports. This is the unchecked capatilism that everyone worships.
Name one sport that is a capitalist adventure through and through.
Uh what? How about all pro sports.
Oh, why do they have a draft? Why do they sign contracts?
Hmmm, ok dude.

Re: Part of Miami Coach's speech about stepping down due to the portal

Posted: Sun May 11, 2025 7:12 pm
by tetoncat
seataccat wrote:
Sat May 10, 2025 1:00 pm
I find it really rich that these guys run down these players for chasing NIL money. Div I college football has been a huge business for many years. Huge money has been made on the backs of these athletes. Coaches have been making and breaking promises to the players and institutions for decades. Now when the players get a level playing field everyone loses their mind and says it's ruining college sports. This is the unchecked capatilism that everyone worships.
Every Business has people at the top who make more than everyone else. Way fewer coaching positions open each year than player spots. I agree top end salaries are out of control, but the impacts of NIL are felt all the way to NAIA. NAIA, D3, D2, and most FCS assistant positions are not making any of them rich. The top end head guys at FCS do well. Coaching salaries were not going to make or break the sports, NIL may and it is a valid discussion to have, even by coaches making large amounts

Re: Part of Miami Coach's speech about stepping down due to the portal

Posted: Wed May 14, 2025 8:23 pm
by PapaG
PortlandCat90 wrote:
Tue May 06, 2025 9:16 am
From a recent article in the WSJ:

"President Donald Trump is considering an executive order “that could increase scrutiny” of NIL payments and the future of college athletics.

NCAA leadership has taken multiple trips to Capitol Hill for discussions about NIL and college sports. Last month, leaders from across collegiate athletics took a trip to Washington, D.C. for College Sports Day. Nick Saban has also spoken in front of Congress about regulation, notably doing so in a roundtable hosted by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) last year.

NCAA president Charlie Baker and SEC commissioner Greg Sankey also spoke multiple times about the need for national legislation to help regulate NIL."

Looks like the defendants are lined up.
Don’t like the idea of it, and how is it even enforced without a Collective Bargaining Agreement involving every single NCAA athlete in the country? Which means one of the largest unions in the USA being organized and a revolving door membership. Why wouldn’t players negotiate, say, 6 years of eligibility with a salary cap and let’s say capping transfers at two times.