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Hauck vs. Stitt
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:16 am
by iaafan
Stitt went 21-14 while at UM with his signature win coming against then No. 1 NDSU in his first game. He made the playoffs once and won one game. Finished 1-2 vs. MSU.
Hauck is currently 23-11, excluding his two wins in 2020 (basically exhibition games), with a signature win vs. Washington. He's made the playoffs once and won one game. Is 0-2 vs. MSU.
I'd say the signature wins are about a toss up. Hauck has a slight edge in overall games, but Stitt has the edge in Cat-Griz games. Playoffs are even.
If Bobby doesn't make the playoffs or beat MSU, is he gone?
Re: Hauck vs. Stitt
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:08 am
by coloradocat
iaafan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:16 am
Stitt went 21-14 while at UM with his signature win coming against then No. 1 NDSU in his first game. He made the playoffs once and won one game. Finished 1-2 vs. MSU.
Hauck is currently 23-11, excluding his two wins in 2020 (basically exhibition games), with a signature win vs. Washington. He's made the playoffs once and won one game. Is 0-2 vs. MSU.
I'd say the signature wins are about a toss up. Hauck has a slight edge in overall games, but Stitt has the edge in Cat-Griz games. Playoffs are even.
If Bobby doesn't make the playoffs or beat MSU, is he gone?
Haven't you heard? Every player has been injured four times and missed 10 games each so far. It's not Bobbi's fault.
After he loses Cat-griz this year, if the team doesn't do any better next year and loses Cat-griz for the sixth year in a row then he's gone. Plus, the phantom tackler will have graduated by then so he probably won't be interested in coaching any more anyways.
Re: Hauck vs. Stitt
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:19 am
by Cataholic
iaafan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:16 am
Stitt went 21-14 while at UM with his signature win coming against then No. 1 NDSU in his first game. He made the playoffs once and won one game. Finished 1-2 vs. MSU.
Hauck is currently 23-11, excluding his two wins in 2020 (basically exhibition games), with a signature win vs. Washington. He's made the playoffs once and won one game. Is 0-2 vs. MSU.
I'd say the signature wins are about a toss up. Hauck has a slight edge in overall games, but Stitt has the edge in Cat-Griz games. Playoffs are even.
If Bobby doesn't make the playoffs or beat MSU, is he gone?
That is a pretty interesting comparison. The way Griz fans talk, you wouldn’t realize that records are that close. At this point though, Bobby is not at risk. Stitt was an outsider. Bobby has major boosters supporting him in Missoula - whether the general public likes him or hates him. He could lose Cat Griz by 40 this year and still have a safe job this year. They will use every excuse in the book but specifically that he hasn’t had 4 full years. Heck, they brought this guy back after he burnt many bridges with his first exit. One of the reasons I have little respect for Griz fans is their worship of this guy who basically left the program with all kinds of issues.
Re: Hauck vs. Stitt
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:10 am
by TomCat88
Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:19 am
iaafan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:16 am
Stitt went 21-14 while at UM with his signature win coming against then No. 1 NDSU in his first game. He made the playoffs once and won one game. Finished 1-2 vs. MSU.
Hauck is currently 23-11, excluding his two wins in 2020 (basically exhibition games), with a signature win vs. Washington. He's made the playoffs once and won one game. Is 0-2 vs. MSU.
I'd say the signature wins are about a toss up. Hauck has a slight edge in overall games, but Stitt has the edge in Cat-Griz games. Playoffs are even.
If Bobby doesn't make the playoffs or beat MSU, is he gone?
That is a pretty interesting comparison. The way Griz fans talk, you wouldn’t realize that records are that close. At this point though, Bobby is not at risk. Stitt was an outsider. Bobby has major boosters supporting him in Missoula - whether the general public likes him or hates him. He could lose Cat Griz by 40 this year and still have a safe job this year. They will use every excuse in the book but specifically that he hasn’t had 4 full years. Heck, they brought this guy back after he burnt many bridges with his first exit. One of the reasons I have little respect for Griz fans is their worship of this guy who basically left the program with all kinds of issues.
Robby is just a junior, so I don't see them firing Bobby after this year regardless of how the last two games go. As for the comparison, if UM loses the next two (I don't think they'll lose to NAU. NAU lost both its starting and backup QBs to knee injuries vs. UCD) Hauck would be 23-13 and 0-3 vs. MSU, which in my opinion is worse than Stitt despite the overall record being slightly better. The NDSU win is better than the UW win. I think that NDSU team would roll UW.
Re: Hauck vs. Stitt
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:28 pm
by autocat
If Carson Wentz doesn’t break his ankle/leg in the game UM-missoula doesn’t win against the Bison
Re: Hauck vs. Stitt
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:55 pm
by allcat
autocat wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:28 pm
If Carson Wentz doesn’t break his ankle/leg in the game UM-missoula doesn’t win against the Bison
If chickens were cows they would be bigger. If ifs were real they would be in the record books.
Re: Hauck vs. Stitt
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:17 pm
by seataccat
I think it would take a lot more than losing his last two games for them to even consider running him off. However, I think the chickens are coming home to roost on that guy. He's such a jackass I can't believe any kid would choose to play for him. Also, he has surrounded himself with a couple awful coaches. Brent Pease and Tim Rosenbaugh are almost bigger aholes than Hauck himself. I hope they keep him there so the cats can keep dragging his dick through the dirt.
Re: Hauck vs. Stitt
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:15 pm
by coloradocat
When we win Cat/griz this year is that the spark to start turning some legacy griz over to our side? Generally kids who's parents went to one of the two schools go to the same school. That's why recruiting is generally fairly even between the two schools because we're really only competing for a handful of players at most each year.
Re: Hauck vs. Stitt
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:36 pm
by catatac
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:10 am
Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:19 am
iaafan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:16 am
Stitt went 21-14 while at UM with his signature win coming against then No. 1 NDSU in his first game. He made the playoffs once and won one game. Finished 1-2 vs. MSU.
Hauck is currently 23-11, excluding his two wins in 2020 (basically exhibition games), with a signature win vs. Washington. He's made the playoffs once and won one game. Is 0-2 vs. MSU.
I'd say the signature wins are about a toss up. Hauck has a slight edge in overall games, but Stitt has the edge in Cat-Griz games. Playoffs are even.
If Bobby doesn't make the playoffs or beat MSU, is he gone?
That is a pretty interesting comparison. The way Griz fans talk, you wouldn’t realize that records are that close. At this point though, Bobby is not at risk. Stitt was an outsider. Bobby has major boosters supporting him in Missoula - whether the general public likes him or hates him. He could lose Cat Griz by 40 this year and still have a safe job this year. They will use every excuse in the book but specifically that he hasn’t had 4 full years. Heck, they brought this guy back after he burnt many bridges with his first exit. One of the reasons I have little respect for Griz fans is their worship of this guy who basically left the program with all kinds of issues.
Robby is just a junior, so I don't see them firing Bobby after this year regardless of how the last two games go. As for the comparison, if UM loses the next two (I don't think they'll lose to NAU. NAU lost both its starting and backup QBs to knee injuries vs. UCD) Hauck would be 23-13 and 0-3 vs. MSU, which in my opinion is worse than Stitt despite the overall record being slightly better. The NDSU win is better than the UW win. I think that NDSU team would roll UW.
No doubt? I hadn't heard that about NAU. So they'll be starting the 3rd string QB in what I would assume will be his first game ever? Is there a write up on this?
Re: Hauck vs. Stitt
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:17 pm
by TomCat88
catatac wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:36 pm
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:10 am
Cataholic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:19 am
iaafan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:16 am
Stitt went 21-14 while at UM with his signature win coming against then No. 1 NDSU in his first game. He made the playoffs once and won one game. Finished 1-2 vs. MSU.
Hauck is currently 23-11, excluding his two wins in 2020 (basically exhibition games), with a signature win vs. Washington. He's made the playoffs once and won one game. Is 0-2 vs. MSU.
I'd say the signature wins are about a toss up. Hauck has a slight edge in overall games, but Stitt has the edge in Cat-Griz games. Playoffs are even.
If Bobby doesn't make the playoffs or beat MSU, is he gone?
That is a pretty interesting comparison. The way Griz fans talk, you wouldn’t realize that records are that close. At this point though, Bobby is not at risk. Stitt was an outsider. Bobby has major boosters supporting him in Missoula - whether the general public likes him or hates him. He could lose Cat Griz by 40 this year and still have a safe job this year. They will use every excuse in the book but specifically that he hasn’t had 4 full years. Heck, they brought this guy back after he burnt many bridges with his first exit. One of the reasons I have little respect for Griz fans is their worship of this guy who basically left the program with all kinds of issues.
Robby is just a junior, so I don't see them firing Bobby after this year regardless of how the last two games go. As for the comparison, if UM loses the next two (I don't think they'll lose to NAU. NAU lost both its starting and backup QBs to knee injuries vs. UCD) Hauck would be 23-13 and 0-3 vs. MSU, which in my opinion is worse than Stitt despite the overall record being slightly better. The NDSU win is better than the UW win. I think that NDSU team would roll UW.
No doubt? I hadn't heard that about NAU. So they'll be starting the 3rd string QB in what I would assume will be his first game ever? Is there a write up on this?
Not sure if the 3rd stringer will start because I'm not sure how serious those injuries are. The third stringer is a grad transfer, so might not be too bad after a week getting the No. 1 reps.
Re: Hauck vs. Stitt
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:18 am
by The Butcher
Taking a team that was below average and working to nearly a 70% winning rate keeps you as head coach. Now if he was on a downhill slide like Ash, different story.
Re: Hauck vs. Stitt
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:36 am
by 91catAlum
Street fight? Hauck.
Football coach? well, probably still Hauck.
Re: Hauck vs. Stitt
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:49 pm
by onceacat
The Butcher wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:18 am
Taking a team that was below average and working to nearly a 70% winning rate keeps you as head coach. Now if he was on a downhill slide like Ash, different story.
Bob Stitt got fired after going 7-4 overall and 5-3 in conference...tied for 6th in the conference
If the Cats win in the Brawl, the Griz finish 8-3, 5-3 in conference...tied for 5th.
I guess I don't see how that's taking a below average team and working up...looks like he took over a mid-tier BSC team and turned them into a...mid tier BSC team.
Of course, he looks a lot better if they win the brawl & finish 9-2, or 6-2 tied for 4th.
Re: Hauck vs. Stitt
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:53 pm
by Cataholic
The Butcher wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:18 am
Taking a team that was below average and working to nearly a 70% winning rate keeps you as head coach. Now if he was on a downhill slide like Ash, different story.
Have you ever met a Griz fan? They invented football. Nothing less than National championship is acceptable to them. AND Losing 5 times in a row to the Cats is one step short of complete failure to them.
Re: Hauck vs. Stitt
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:13 pm
by RickRund
Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:53 pm
The Butcher wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:18 am
Taking a team that was below average and working to nearly a 70% winning rate keeps you as head coach. Now if he was on a downhill slide like Ash, different story.
Have you ever met a Griz fan? They invented football. Nothing less than National championship is acceptable to them. AND Losing 5 times in a row to the Cats is one step short of complete failure to them.
Can't wait for then to come up with a new saying, maybe something like Roll griz...
Re: Hauck vs. Stitt
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:46 pm
by Cataholic
RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:13 pm
Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:53 pm
The Butcher wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:18 am
Taking a team that was below average and working to nearly a 70% winning rate keeps you as head coach. Now if he was on a downhill slide like Ash, different story.
Have you ever met a Griz fan? They invented football. Nothing less than National championship is acceptable to them. AND Losing 5 times in a row to the Cats is one step short of complete failure to them.
Can't wait for then to come up with a new saying, maybe something like Roll griz...
What was that new greeting they were trying to get people to use? I can’t remember so it must not have ever caught on.
Re: Hauck vs. Stitt
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:44 pm
by allcat
I think it's meant to be return to dominance, but it's really retain the dominance. Five straight wins is retaining the dominance.
Re: Hauck vs. Stitt
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:50 pm
by onceacat
Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:46 pm
RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:13 pm
Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:53 pm
The Butcher wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:18 am
Taking a team that was below average and working to nearly a 70% winning rate keeps you as head coach. Now if he was on a downhill slide like Ash, different story.
Have you ever met a Griz fan? They invented football. Nothing less than National championship is acceptable to them. AND Losing 5 times in a row to the Cats is one step short of complete failure to them.
Can't wait for then to come up with a new saying, maybe something like Roll griz...
What was that new greeting they were trying to get people to use? I can’t remember so it must not have ever caught on.
I think its #overRTD
Re: Hauck vs. Stitt
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:55 am
by Cataholic
onceacat wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:50 pm
Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:46 pm
RickRund wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:13 pm
Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:53 pm
The Butcher wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:18 am
Taking a team that was below average and working to nearly a 70% winning rate keeps you as head coach. Now if he was on a downhill slide like Ash, different story.
Have you ever met a Griz fan? They invented football. Nothing less than National championship is acceptable to them. AND Losing 5 times in a row to the Cats is one step short of complete failure to them.
Can't wait for then to come up with a new saying, maybe something like Roll griz...
What was that new greeting they were trying to get people to use? I can’t remember so it must not have ever caught on.
I think its #overRTD
They actually created some phrase to say following any discussion regarding Griz football. Instead of simply saying Go Griz, it was a phrase like “fight on”.
I am not sure if it lasted a year.
EDIT - I did a Google search on “Bobby Hauck fight on” and this came up. It does verify “fight on” and Griz fans were making fun of it
It should also be noted that it is a 16 page thread about whether Bobby is on the hot seat.
https://www.egriz.com/grizboard/viewtop ... &p=1500418
Re: Hauck vs. Stitt
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:40 am
by BelligerentBobcat
Bobby is safe. They don’t have the money to fire and replace him, even if they wanted to fire him (and they don’t).
Bobby’s teams are better than Stitt’s teams. Arguably Stitt came into a better situation than Bobby did. They play hard, Bobby recruits well, they’re still going to be a good team, and that’s a good thing.