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I’m just wondering why I can’t drive to attend basketball games in Spokane next week, yet there is zero disruption to the public transit here in Portland with a metro population of over 2.5 million people. If you’ve ever been on a bus or the MAX here, it’s basically a moving germ mobile.
There are certainly no shortage of questions that could be asked....no doubt about it.PapaG wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:00 pmI’m just wondering why I can’t drive to attend basketball games in Spokane next week, yet there is zero disruption to the public transit here in Portland with a metro population of over 2.5 million people. If you’ve ever been on a bus or the MAX here, it’s basically a moving germ mobile.
Germs don't have an R0 (R-naught) of 6.7, an incubation period of 14 days, or a case fatality rate of 5.8%.PapaG wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:00 pmI’m just wondering why I can’t drive to attend basketball games in Spokane next week, yet there is zero disruption to the public transit here in Portland with a metro population of over 2.5 million people. If you’ve ever been on a bus or the MAX here, it’s basically a moving germ mobile.
Curious where you got 5.8% mortality rate?Cledus wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:57 pmGerms don't have an R0 (R-naught) of 6.7, an incubation period of 14 days, or a case fatality rate of 5.8%.PapaG wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:00 pmI’m just wondering why I can’t drive to attend basketball games in Spokane next week, yet there is zero disruption to the public transit here in Portland with a metro population of over 2.5 million people. If you’ve ever been on a bus or the MAX here, it’s basically a moving germ mobile.
This spectator ban places a higher value over human life than short-term pleasure, gain, economic activity, etc. It's a sensible precaution.
I calculated it myself from the data I found here: Worldometers91catAlum wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:39 pmCurious where you got 5.8% mortality rate?Cledus wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:57 pmGerms don't have an R0 (R-naught) of 6.7, an incubation period of 14 days, or a case fatality rate of 5.8%.PapaG wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:00 pmI’m just wondering why I can’t drive to attend basketball games in Spokane next week, yet there is zero disruption to the public transit here in Portland with a metro population of over 2.5 million people. If you’ve ever been on a bus or the MAX here, it’s basically a moving germ mobile.
This spectator ban places a higher value over human life than short-term pleasure, gain, economic activity, etc. It's a sensible precaution.
This is also why people are hoarding hand sanitizer and toilet paper.Cledus wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:55 pmI calculated it myself from the data I found here: Worldometers91catAlum wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:39 pmCurious where you got 5.8% mortality rate?Cledus wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:57 pmGerms don't have an R0 (R-naught) of 6.7, an incubation period of 14 days, or a case fatality rate of 5.8%.PapaG wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:00 pmI’m just wondering why I can’t drive to attend basketball games in Spokane next week, yet there is zero disruption to the public transit here in Portland with a metro population of over 2.5 million people. If you’ve ever been on a bus or the MAX here, it’s basically a moving germ mobile.
This spectator ban places a higher value over human life than short-term pleasure, gain, economic activity, etc. It's a sensible precaution.
Go to the "Closed Cases" section. It's right near the top. 4,627/(4,627+72,867)
The case fatality rate has been climbing all week. It started the week at 5.4%. Compare that with the case fatality rate for the flu, which is 0.1%.
If you want to know more, a guy named Chris Martinson has a channel on YouTube called Peak Prosperity. He's putting out daily updates. He's very good and a trained pathologist. It's the first thing I watch when I get home from work.
That number is way too high from everything I've read. This is from the BBC:Cledus wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:55 pmI calculated it myself from the data I found here: Worldometers91catAlum wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:39 pmCurious where you got 5.8% mortality rate?Cledus wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:57 pmGerms don't have an R0 (R-naught) of 6.7, an incubation period of 14 days, or a case fatality rate of 5.8%.PapaG wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:00 pmI’m just wondering why I can’t drive to attend basketball games in Spokane next week, yet there is zero disruption to the public transit here in Portland with a metro population of over 2.5 million people. If you’ve ever been on a bus or the MAX here, it’s basically a moving germ mobile.
This spectator ban places a higher value over human life than short-term pleasure, gain, economic activity, etc. It's a sensible precaution.
Go to the "Closed Cases" section. It's right near the top. 4,627/(4,627+72,867)
The case fatality rate has been climbing all week. It started the week at 5.4%. Compare that with the case fatality rate for the flu, which is 0.1%.
If you want to know more, a guy named Chris Martinson has a channel on YouTube called Peak Prosperity. He's putting out daily updates. He's very good and a trained pathologist. It's the first thing I watch when I get home from work.
I used global numbers. Second, he’s counting total cases that are still active where the virus has not yet run it’s course, for better or worse. His denominator is too big. You can’t include people in computing a case fatality rate who have just been diagnosed. That’s what he’s doing.91catAlum wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:51 pmThat number is way too high from everything I've read. This is from the BBC:Cledus wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:55 pmI calculated it myself from the data I found here: Worldometers91catAlum wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:39 pmCurious where you got 5.8% mortality rate?Cledus wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:57 pmGerms don't have an R0 (R-naught) of 6.7, an incubation period of 14 days, or a case fatality rate of 5.8%.PapaG wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:00 pmI’m just wondering why I can’t drive to attend basketball games in Spokane next week, yet there is zero disruption to the public transit here in Portland with a metro population of over 2.5 million people. If you’ve ever been on a bus or the MAX here, it’s basically a moving germ mobile.
This spectator ban places a higher value over human life than short-term pleasure, gain, economic activity, etc. It's a sensible precaution.
Go to the "Closed Cases" section. It's right near the top. 4,627/(4,627+72,867)
The case fatality rate has been climbing all week. It started the week at 5.4%. Compare that with the case fatality rate for the flu, which is 0.1%.
If you want to know more, a guy named Chris Martinson has a channel on YouTube called Peak Prosperity. He's putting out daily updates. He's very good and a trained pathologist. It's the first thing I watch when I get home from work.
"On Tuesday, the World Health Organization's Director General, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, said that "globally, about 3.4% of reported Covid-19 cases have died".
Scientists' estimate of the death rate is lower because not all cases are reported.
On Sunday, Health Secretary Matt Hancock said the UK government's "very best assessment" was that the mortality rate was "2% or, likely, lower".
But it depends on a range of factors: your age, sex and general health and the health system you are in."
And what about all the people who have symptoms so mild that they don't even go to the doctor or get tested, and thus aren't counted in those numbers??Cledus wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:09 pmI used global numbers. Second, he’s counting total cases that are still active where the virus has not yet run it’s course, for better or worse. His denominator is too big. You can’t include people in computing a case fatality rate who have just been diagnosed. That’s what he’s doing.91catAlum wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:51 pmThat number is way too high from everything I've read. This is from the BBC:Cledus wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:55 pmI calculated it myself from the data I found here: Worldometers91catAlum wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:39 pmCurious where you got 5.8% mortality rate?Cledus wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:57 pmGerms don't have an R0 (R-naught) of 6.7, an incubation period of 14 days, or a case fatality rate of 5.8%.PapaG wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:00 pmI’m just wondering why I can’t drive to attend basketball games in Spokane next week, yet there is zero disruption to the public transit here in Portland with a metro population of over 2.5 million people. If you’ve ever been on a bus or the MAX here, it’s basically a moving germ mobile.
This spectator ban places a higher value over human life than short-term pleasure, gain, economic activity, etc. It's a sensible precaution.
Go to the "Closed Cases" section. It's right near the top. 4,627/(4,627+72,867)
The case fatality rate has been climbing all week. It started the week at 5.4%. Compare that with the case fatality rate for the flu, which is 0.1%.
If you want to know more, a guy named Chris Martinson has a channel on YouTube called Peak Prosperity. He's putting out daily updates. He's very good and a trained pathologist. It's the first thing I watch when I get home from work.
"On Tuesday, the World Health Organization's Director General, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, said that "globally, about 3.4% of reported Covid-19 cases have died".
Scientists' estimate of the death rate is lower because not all cases are reported.
On Sunday, Health Secretary Matt Hancock said the UK government's "very best assessment" was that the mortality rate was "2% or, likely, lower".
But it depends on a range of factors: your age, sex and general health and the health system you are in."