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Griz fans can't give us crap anymore about scheduling weak teams. They have NAIA St. Francis and 1-10 Mississippi Valley State for 2016.

Cataholic wrote:Griz fans can't give us crap anymore about scheduling weak teams. They have NAIA St. Francis and 1-10 Mississippi Valley State for 2016.

Saint Francis is FCS and is in the Northeast Conference. They finished 6-4 on the year and 4-2 in conference, one game in front of Bryant who the Cats play.

coachouert wrote:

Cataholic wrote:Griz fans can't give us crap anymore about scheduling weak teams. They have NAIA St. Francis and 1-10 Mississippi Valley State for 2016.

Saint Francis is FCS and is in the Northeast Conference. They finished 6-4 on the year and 4-2 in conference, one game in front of Bryant who the Cats play.

Why ruin a great argument with actual facts?

RationalGriz wrote:

coachouert wrote:

Cataholic wrote:Griz fans can't give us crap anymore about scheduling weak teams. They have NAIA St. Francis and 1-10 Mississippi Valley State for 2016.

Saint Francis is FCS and is in the Northeast Conference. They finished 6-4 on the year and 4-2 in conference, one game in front of Bryant who the Cats play.

Why ruin a great argument with actual facts?

I think there are multiple colleges named Saint Francis... hence the confusion.

catatac wrote:

RationalGriz wrote:

coachouert wrote:

Cataholic wrote:Griz fans can't give us crap anymore about scheduling weak teams. They have NAIA St. Francis and 1-10 Mississippi Valley State for 2016.

Saint Francis is FCS and is in the Northeast Conference. They finished 6-4 on the year and 4-2 in conference, one game in front of Bryant who the Cats play.

Why ruin a great argument with actual facts?

I think there are multiple colleges named Saint Francis... hence the confusion.

I know. Does that change anything?

RationalGriz wrote:

catatac wrote:

RationalGriz wrote:

coachouert wrote:

Cataholic wrote:Griz fans can't give us crap anymore about scheduling weak teams. They have NAIA St. Francis and 1-10 Mississippi Valley State for 2016.

Saint Francis is FCS and is in the Northeast Conference. They finished 6-4 on the year and 4-2 in conference, one game in front of Bryant who the Cats play.

Why ruin a great argument with actual facts?

I think there are multiple colleges named Saint Francis... hence the confusion.

I know. Does that change anything?

For as much ****** as you guys gave us for ETSU, someone we had to schedule due to JSU dragging their feet, you guys go out and get your own in MVSU. You're a bunch of hypocrites that like to give ******, but cry like little girls when you're on the receiving end... I think that sums it up.

luckyirishguy25 wrote:

RationalGriz wrote:

catatac wrote:

RationalGriz wrote:

coachouert wrote:

Cataholic wrote:Griz fans can't give us crap anymore about scheduling weak teams. They have NAIA St. Francis and 1-10 Mississippi Valley State for 2016.

Saint Francis is FCS and is in the Northeast Conference. They finished 6-4 on the year and 4-2 in conference, one game in front of Bryant who the Cats play.

Why ruin a great argument with actual facts?

I think there are multiple colleges named Saint Francis... hence the confusion.

I know. Does that change anything?

For as much ****** as you guys gave us for ETSU, someone we had to schedule due to JSU dragging their feet, you guys go out and get your own in MVSU. You're a bunch of hypocrites that like to give ******, but cry like little girls when you're on the receiving end... I think that sums it up.

Not sure why you are lumping me in? I not once made any comment about ETSU. I get the fact that scheduling football games is not always an easy deal. As for MVSU, they beat what the alternative opponent was going to be.

RationalGriz wrote:

luckyirishguy25 wrote:

RationalGriz wrote:

catatac wrote:

RationalGriz wrote:

coachouert wrote:

Cataholic wrote:Griz fans can't give us crap anymore about scheduling weak teams. They have NAIA St. Francis and 1-10 Mississippi Valley State for 2016.

Saint Francis is FCS and is in the Northeast Conference. They finished 6-4 on the year and 4-2 in conference, one game in front of Bryant who the Cats play.

Why ruin a great argument with actual facts?

I think there are multiple colleges named Saint Francis... hence the confusion.

I know. Does that change anything?

For as much ****** as you guys gave us for ETSU, someone we had to schedule due to JSU dragging their feet, you guys go out and get your own in MVSU. You're a bunch of hypocrites that like to give ******, but cry like little girls when you're on the receiving end... I think that sums it up.

Not sure why you are lumping me in? I not once made any comment about ETSU. I get the fact that scheduling football games is not always an easy deal. As for MVSU, they beat what the alternative opponent was going to be.

Probably for the same reason griz fans lump us all together, a few bad apples spoil the whole bunch. Personally I wish we had 11 FCS or better games for 2016, especially after Ash made a statement about how we can't do that anymore, then we do...

RationalGriz wrote:

catatac wrote:

RationalGriz wrote:

coachouert wrote:

Cataholic wrote:Griz fans can't give us crap anymore about scheduling weak teams. They have NAIA St. Francis and 1-10 Mississippi Valley State for 2016.

Saint Francis is FCS and is in the Northeast Conference. They finished 6-4 on the year and 4-2 in conference, one game in front of Bryant who the Cats play.

Why ruin a great argument with actual facts?

I think there are multiple colleges named Saint Francis... hence the confusion.

I know. Does that change anything?

Not sure what you're asking. When Cataholic posted about the Griz playing a weak St. Francis team, he thought you were playing the NAIA team. That's all I was pointing out. (And in fact I didn't see that he called then an NAIA team in the post until now).

Honest mistake. There are multiple St Francis teams. Maybe I misunderstood the KXLF news last night, but I thought they said it was the same team Tech played this year in the NAIA playoffs. It took some digging and I did find that this is the FCS St Francis on the Griz schedule. My apologies. And I hope they kick your ass.

Ithink that people that respond when an um,er comes on this bowrd to give ******, deserve to have their panties bunch up on them. By the way your mother wears army boots.

Seems like a pretty smart approach to scheduling. If you have to play some relatively weak teams on your schedule (which does have its advantages), it's ideal to make those weak teams FCS teams. It's so much better from a playoff perspective than beating up on an NAIA or D-II team. I get the smack element to it -- some fans on both sides will never let any smack material go to waste -- but from a practical perspective this isn't a terrible way to schedule.

SonomaCat wrote:Seems like a pretty smart approach to scheduling. If you have to play some relatively weak teams on your schedule (which does have its advantages), it's ideal to make those weak teams FCS teams. It's so much better from a playoff perspective than beating up on an NAIA or D-II team. I get the smack element to it -- some fans on both sides will never let any smack material go to waste -- but from a practical perspective this isn't a terrible way to schedule.

Agreed!

Scheduling a D-II team in an 11-week year makes no sense -- it just leaves less room for error in the sort-of "7 D-I wins" requirement. That means 3 losses at most. 7-3 is a lot different than 7-4 if you are struggling a bit, so I wonder why we keep doing this to ourselves. An FCS St. Francis makes so much more sense, and I like the idea of scheduling teams from around the country. The Gold Rush game would be better off for picking on another of our own kind.

A related question -- I know it has to do with the calendar but why do FBS teams always get 12 regular games, and FCS gets 11 or 12 ( mostly 11)? That even seems to be maybe a slight recruiting disadvantage--players like to play. But at the least we need to pay attention when scheduling. And for the record I'd love to never see another D-II team on the menu, oops schedule. FCS please!

Bobcat4Ever wrote:

SonomaCat wrote:Seems like a pretty smart approach to scheduling. If you have to play some relatively weak teams on your schedule (which does have its advantages), it's ideal to make those weak teams FCS teams. It's so much better from a playoff perspective than beating up on an NAIA or D-II team. I get the smack element to it -- some fans on both sides will never let any smack material go to waste -- but from a practical perspective this isn't a terrible way to schedule.

Agreed!

Scheduling a D-II team in an 11-week year makes no sense -- it just leaves less room for error in the sort-of "7 D-I wins" requirement. That means 3 losses at most. 7-3 is a lot different than 7-4 if you are struggling a bit, so I wonder why we keep doing this to ourselves. An FCS St. Francis makes so much more sense, and I like the idea of scheduling teams from around the country. The Gold Rush game would be better off for picking on another of our own kind.

A related question -- I know it has to do with the calendar but why do FBS teams always get 12 regular games, and FCS gets 11 or 12 ( mostly 11)? That even seems to be maybe a slight recruiting disadvantage--players like to play. But at the least we need to pay attention when scheduling. And for the record I'd love to never see another D-II team on the menu, oops schedule. FCS please!

All good points. The 7 D1 wins is no longer an absolute, but I'd say it's still very high on the list along with strength of schedule. I'm not positive on the 11 game vs 12 game schedule. That does seem to rotate in the fcs every few years. I would think the fact that 24 teams go into fcs playoffs and could play another 4-5 games may be why the 11 game schedule applies.