The Bobcat Nation

This is a good article from Elite Fitness. They are one of the best fitness and lifting sources anywhere. As I mentioned in my article a few months back; it is harder to add strength and size to incoming college athletes because of the years of lifting/training they have had throughout high school (unlike 15-20 years ago). This article touches on the question are these kids being trained correctly at the HS level to help prevent injury and to prepare them for college sports. One question that is not covered is should kids in HS be lifting this hard. IMO no one under 18 should train heavy or use certain types of lifts. BUT, that is not the real world. Remember that kid from Lewistown who was on the cover of Sports Illustrated? I think it was bout 15 years ago. He went to Stanford to play football. If I remember right he was 265 lbs. and had a low body fat. Looked like a body builder. I don't think he ever played. Injuries from his training ruined his chances. This is a subject that will get a lot of press in the next few years. Interesting article.



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gtapp wrote:This is a good article from Elite Fitness. They are one of the best fitness and lifting sources anywhere. As I mentioned in my article a few months back; it is harder to add strength and size to incoming college athletes because of the years of lifting/training they have had throughout high school (unlike 15-20 years ago). This article touches on the question are these kids being trained correctly at the HS level to help prevent injury and to prepare them for college sports. One question that is not covered is should kids in HS be lifting this hard. IMO no one under 18 should train heavy or use certain types of lifts. BUT, that is not the real world. Remember that kid from Lewistown who was on the cover of Sports Illustrated? I think it was bout 15 years ago. He went to Stanford to play football. If I remember right he was 265 lbs. and had a low body fat. Looked like a body builder. I don't think he ever played. Injuries from his training ruined his chances. This is a subject that will get a lot of press in the next few years. Interesting article.



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I always enjoy the articles you post and the insight you provide, Mr Tapp. Lifting has always fascinated me as my second oldest son called me and interupted my class several years ago when he hit for him was a barrier: 350 in the bench as a junior (John Barksdale lifted 410 as an eighth grader in the same school my boy attended and started all four years for North Carolina State) but it always bothered me some kids hurt their lower back lifting and others always hurt their shoulders!

gtapp wrote:This is a good article from Elite Fitness. They are one of the best fitness and lifting sources anywhere. As I mentioned in my article a few months back; it is harder to add strength and size to incoming college athletes because of the years of lifting/training they have had throughout high school (unlike 15-20 years ago). This article touches on the question are these kids being trained correctly at the HS level to help prevent injury and to prepare them for college sports. One question that is not covered is should kids in HS be lifting this hard. IMO no one under 18 should train heavy or use certain types of lifts. BUT, that is not the real world. Remember that kid from Lewistown who was on the cover of Sports Illustrated? I think it was bout 15 years ago. He went to Stanford to play football. If I remember right he was 265 lbs. and had a low body fat. Looked like a body builder. I don't think he ever played. Injuries from his training ruined his chances. This is a subject that will get a lot of press in the next few years. Interesting article.



http://www.elitefts.com/education/the-m ... -prepared/

Last question for you Sir. How many kids not from Manhattan benched over 450 last year? Yates? ,

I really hate to see anyone in HS lifting heavy. Bones are not fully developed. In fact I would prefer kids be 21 before doing heavy weights but that will NEVER happen. Heavier weights (especially if the form is incorrect) can really cause some long term (even permanent) issues.

Cat Grad wrote:

gtapp wrote:This is a good article from Elite Fitness. They are one of the best fitness and lifting sources anywhere. As I mentioned in my article a few months back; it is harder to add strength and size to incoming college athletes because of the years of lifting/training they have had throughout high school (unlike 15-20 years ago). This article touches on the question are these kids being trained correctly at the HS level to help prevent injury and to prepare them for college sports. One question that is not covered is should kids in HS be lifting this hard. IMO no one under 18 should train heavy or use certain types of lifts. BUT, that is not the real world. Remember that kid from Lewistown who was on the cover of Sports Illustrated? I think it was bout 15 years ago. He went to Stanford to play football. If I remember right he was 265 lbs. and had a low body fat. Looked like a body builder. I don't think he ever played. Injuries from his training ruined his chances. This is a subject that will get a lot of press in the next few years. Interesting article.



http://www.elitefts.com/education/the-m ... -prepared/

Last question for you Sir. How many kids not from Manhattan benched over 450 last year? Yates? ,

Most years MSU has one or two kids in that 400-450 range. You have to realize that the bench is not necessarily an exercise they always push them real heavy. Some kids just push themselves up to that level. Also you have a little apples and oranges effect going on. The ONLY true measure of a lift is when it is done in competition with judges who are certified. I have seen the tapes posted on facebook of some of the lifting sessions at MSU. Spotters holding on to the bar, but off the bench, bouncing the bar. Still a good indication of strength but the number reported could be a 100 lbs. off from actual. I have seen many lifters claim a number and get to competition and never make a successful lift because of their training methods in the gym.

While you are clearly the one person on this board with the most actual knowledge of weight lifting, I have been ridiculed here for stating an appreciation of your posts. Therefore, in an effort to run with the crowd, you must clearly be wrong. I feel compelled to ridicule this thread, even though I have zero knowledge of the subject.

allcat wrote:While you are clearly the one person on this board with the most actual knowledge of weight lifting, I have been ridiculed here for stating an appreciation of your posts. Therefore, in an effort to run with the crowd, you must clearly be wrong. I feel compelled to ridicule this thread, even though I have zero knowledge of the subject.

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