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Bowl Games Losing Records

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:42 pm
by WeedKillinCat
I see that they are letting some teams into the bowl games with 5-7 records....kind of like giving them a participation ribbon...what a joke.

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:25 pm
by RickRund
And several with 6-6 records...

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:52 pm
by The Butcher
What are you talking about? Who isn't excited to see San Jose State (5-7) vs Georgia State (6-6) in the prestigious RAYCOM MEDIA CAMELLIA BOWL?!

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:58 pm
by WeedKillinCat
The Butcher wrote:What are you talking about? Who isn't excited to see San Jose State (5-7) vs Georgia State (6-6) in the prestigious RAYCOM MEDIA CAMELLIA BOWL?!
Might as well be the Summers Eve Simply Sensitive Cleansing Wash Bowl...about the same affect.....

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:57 pm
by SonomaCat
It's all about capitalism ... if somebody wasn't making money off of it, it wouldn't be happening.

I suspect the organizers of the bowl will be making money and the two schools, both desperate for exposure, will be the ones primarily paying the money (guaranteed ticket sales that they won't come close to meeting, etc.).

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:39 pm
by Cat Grad
SonomaCat wrote:It's all about capitalism ... if somebody wasn't making money off of it, it wouldn't be happening.

I suspect the organizers of the bowl will be making money and the two schools, both desperate for exposure, will be the ones primarily paying the money (guaranteed ticket sales that they won't come close to meeting, etc.).
There's also the extra practice time to develop your team for the following year. With 80 or so bowls, that means 80 teams will finish the year on a positive, winning note. Beats only one team ends the year in a huge playoff on a positive end to the season.

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:27 am
by seataccat
I don't see the issue.... Why not match up the teams with losing records for another game to end their season? More practice, more reps more chance to develop and if you don't like it don't watch..

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:44 pm
by SonomaCat
seataccat wrote:I don't see the issue.... Why not match up the teams with losing records for another game to end their season? More practice, more reps more chance to develop and if you don't like it don't watch..
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. If they can make it work financially, more power to 'em.

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:47 pm
by Cat Grad
seataccat wrote:I don't see the issue.... Why not match up the teams with losing records for another game to end their season? More practice, more reps more chance to develop and if you don't like it don't watch..
I wish this site had a like button! :goodpost:

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:30 am
by The Butcher
Cat Grad wrote:
seataccat wrote:I don't see the issue.... Why not match up the teams with losing records for another game to end their season? More practice, more reps more chance to develop and if you don't like it don't watch..
I wish this site had a like button! :goodpost:
I guess I was under the impression that Bowl Games were designed to reward teams for a winning season, not a developmental game for athletes. :shrug:

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:46 pm
by SonomaCat
The Butcher wrote:
Cat Grad wrote:
seataccat wrote:I don't see the issue.... Why not match up the teams with losing records for another game to end their season? More practice, more reps more chance to develop and if you don't like it don't watch..
I wish this site had a like button! :goodpost:
I guess I was under the impression that Bowl Games were designed to reward teams for a winning season, not a developmental game for athletes. :shrug:
Bowl games were designed as marketing tools for the schools and a way to make money for the bowl organizers.

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:28 pm
by The Butcher
SonomaCat wrote:
The Butcher wrote:
Cat Grad wrote:
seataccat wrote:I don't see the issue.... Why not match up the teams with losing records for another game to end their season? More practice, more reps more chance to develop and if you don't like it don't watch..
I wish this site had a like button! :goodpost:
I guess I was under the impression that Bowl Games were designed to reward teams for a winning season, not a developmental game for athletes. :shrug:
Bowl games were designed as marketing tools for the schools and a way to make money for the bowl organizers.
Drops mic and walks off stage

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:18 pm
by Cat Grad
SonomaCat wrote:
The Butcher wrote:
Cat Grad wrote:
seataccat wrote:I don't see the issue.... Why not match up the teams with losing records for another game to end their season? More practice, more reps more chance to develop and if you don't like it don't watch..
I wish this site had a like button! :goodpost:
I guess I was under the impression that Bowl Games were designed to reward teams for a winning season, not a developmental game for athletes. :shrug:
Bowl games were designed as marketing tools for the schools and a way to make money for the bowl organizers.
Are there any Bowl games that are nonprofits? Therefore, all the corporate donors receive a decent tax break and free advertising. But, aren't you the bean counter who could start your own Bowl and invite certain schools at your own discretion?

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:22 pm
by SonomaCat
Cat Grad wrote:
SonomaCat wrote:
The Butcher wrote:
Cat Grad wrote:
seataccat wrote:I don't see the issue.... Why not match up the teams with losing records for another game to end their season? More practice, more reps more chance to develop and if you don't like it don't watch..
I wish this site had a like button! :goodpost:
I guess I was under the impression that Bowl Games were designed to reward teams for a winning season, not a developmental game for athletes. :shrug:
Bowl games were designed as marketing tools for the schools and a way to make money for the bowl organizers.
Are there any Bowl games that are nonprofits? Therefore, all the corporate donors receive a decent tax break and free advertising. But, aren't you the bean counter who could start your own Bowl and invite certain schools at your own discretion?
The bowl games are all operated by non-profit entities ... that doesn't mean that the people who work for them don't make tons of money (they do).

The corporations don't get any special tax breaks for spending money on the bowl games, to my knowledge, but they do deduct the business expenses they incur relating to the bowl games (generally advertising).

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:21 pm
by Cat Grad
SonomaCat wrote:
Cat Grad wrote:
SonomaCat wrote:
The Butcher wrote:
Cat Grad wrote:
seataccat wrote:I don't see the issue.... Why not match up the teams with losing records for another game to end their season? More practice, more reps more chance to develop and if you don't like it don't watch..
I wish this site had a like button! :goodpost:
I guess I was under the impression that Bowl Games were designed to reward teams for a winning season, not a developmental game for athletes. :shrug:
Bowl games were designed as marketing tools for the schools and a way to make money for the bowl organizers.
Are there any Bowl games that are nonprofits? Therefore, all the corporate donors receive a decent tax break and free advertising. But, aren't you the bean counter who could start your own Bowl and invite certain schools at your own discretion?
The bowl games are all operated by non-profit entities ... that doesn't mean that the people who work for them don't make tons of money (they do).

The corporations don't get any special tax breaks for spending money on the bowl games, to my knowledge, but they do deduct the business expenses they incur relating to the bowl games (generally advertising).
Yep. They "sponsor" a bowl, choose their college, pass out tickets to their clients, write it off, receive the minimum ticket allocation from the college, donate to their college and we get to watch our kids play another game, all the band members families enjoy the time to get together, all the non revenue sport athletes get to enjoy the college experience long after middle age with all their college buddies and it's a two to three week vacation in a cool venue such as Orlando or Tampa. But we're going to ridicule them because they don't have a real playoff with one week to prepare for the next team...