Bowl Games Losing Records

The place for news, information and discussion of athletics at "other" schools.

Moderators: rtb, kmax, SonomaCat

Post Reply
User avatar
WeedKillinCat
Member # Retired
Posts: 2024
Joined: Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:19 pm
Location: Billings Heights

Bowl Games Losing Records

Post by WeedKillinCat » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:42 pm

I see that they are letting some teams into the bowl games with 5-7 records....kind of like giving them a participation ribbon...what a joke.


1993 Agronomy
If You Want To Get To Heaven-----You Gotta Raise A Little Hell

User avatar
RickRund
Golden Bobcat
Posts: 8066
Joined: Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:08 pm
Location: Post Falls ID

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Post by RickRund » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:25 pm

And several with 6-6 records...


msubobcats@outlook.com
Audiatur et altura pars: Let both sides be fairly heard.
Audi alteram partem: listen to the other side.

User avatar
The Butcher
Golden Bobcat
Posts: 4435
Joined: Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:51 am

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Post by The Butcher » Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:52 pm

What are you talking about? Who isn't excited to see San Jose State (5-7) vs Georgia State (6-6) in the prestigious RAYCOM MEDIA CAMELLIA BOWL?!



User avatar
WeedKillinCat
Member # Retired
Posts: 2024
Joined: Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:19 pm
Location: Billings Heights

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Post by WeedKillinCat » Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:58 pm

The Butcher wrote:What are you talking about? Who isn't excited to see San Jose State (5-7) vs Georgia State (6-6) in the prestigious RAYCOM MEDIA CAMELLIA BOWL?!
Might as well be the Summers Eve Simply Sensitive Cleansing Wash Bowl...about the same affect.....


1993 Agronomy
If You Want To Get To Heaven-----You Gotta Raise A Little Hell

User avatar
SonomaCat
Moderator
Posts: 23987
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:56 pm
Location: Sonoma County, CA
Contact:

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Post by SonomaCat » Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:57 pm

It's all about capitalism ... if somebody wasn't making money off of it, it wouldn't be happening.

I suspect the organizers of the bowl will be making money and the two schools, both desperate for exposure, will be the ones primarily paying the money (guaranteed ticket sales that they won't come close to meeting, etc.).



Cat Grad
Golden Bobcat
Posts: 7463
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:05 am

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Post by Cat Grad » Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:39 pm

SonomaCat wrote:It's all about capitalism ... if somebody wasn't making money off of it, it wouldn't be happening.

I suspect the organizers of the bowl will be making money and the two schools, both desperate for exposure, will be the ones primarily paying the money (guaranteed ticket sales that they won't come close to meeting, etc.).
There's also the extra practice time to develop your team for the following year. With 80 or so bowls, that means 80 teams will finish the year on a positive, winning note. Beats only one team ends the year in a huge playoff on a positive end to the season.



User avatar
seataccat
1st Team All-BobcatNation
Posts: 1899
Joined: Sun Sep 11, 2005 2:40 pm
Location: Portland or Seattle

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Post by seataccat » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:27 am

I don't see the issue.... Why not match up the teams with losing records for another game to end their season? More practice, more reps more chance to develop and if you don't like it don't watch..


"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
Voltaire

User avatar
SonomaCat
Moderator
Posts: 23987
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:56 pm
Location: Sonoma County, CA
Contact:

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Post by SonomaCat » Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:44 pm

seataccat wrote:I don't see the issue.... Why not match up the teams with losing records for another game to end their season? More practice, more reps more chance to develop and if you don't like it don't watch..
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. If they can make it work financially, more power to 'em.



Cat Grad
Golden Bobcat
Posts: 7463
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:05 am

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Post by Cat Grad » Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:47 pm

seataccat wrote:I don't see the issue.... Why not match up the teams with losing records for another game to end their season? More practice, more reps more chance to develop and if you don't like it don't watch..
I wish this site had a like button! :goodpost:



User avatar
The Butcher
Golden Bobcat
Posts: 4435
Joined: Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:51 am

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Post by The Butcher » Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:30 am

Cat Grad wrote:
seataccat wrote:I don't see the issue.... Why not match up the teams with losing records for another game to end their season? More practice, more reps more chance to develop and if you don't like it don't watch..
I wish this site had a like button! :goodpost:
I guess I was under the impression that Bowl Games were designed to reward teams for a winning season, not a developmental game for athletes. :shrug:



User avatar
SonomaCat
Moderator
Posts: 23987
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:56 pm
Location: Sonoma County, CA
Contact:

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Post by SonomaCat » Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:46 pm

The Butcher wrote:
Cat Grad wrote:
seataccat wrote:I don't see the issue.... Why not match up the teams with losing records for another game to end their season? More practice, more reps more chance to develop and if you don't like it don't watch..
I wish this site had a like button! :goodpost:
I guess I was under the impression that Bowl Games were designed to reward teams for a winning season, not a developmental game for athletes. :shrug:
Bowl games were designed as marketing tools for the schools and a way to make money for the bowl organizers.



User avatar
The Butcher
Golden Bobcat
Posts: 4435
Joined: Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:51 am

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Post by The Butcher » Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:28 pm

SonomaCat wrote:
The Butcher wrote:
Cat Grad wrote:
seataccat wrote:I don't see the issue.... Why not match up the teams with losing records for another game to end their season? More practice, more reps more chance to develop and if you don't like it don't watch..
I wish this site had a like button! :goodpost:
I guess I was under the impression that Bowl Games were designed to reward teams for a winning season, not a developmental game for athletes. :shrug:
Bowl games were designed as marketing tools for the schools and a way to make money for the bowl organizers.
Drops mic and walks off stage



Cat Grad
Golden Bobcat
Posts: 7463
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:05 am

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Post by Cat Grad » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:18 pm

SonomaCat wrote:
The Butcher wrote:
Cat Grad wrote:
seataccat wrote:I don't see the issue.... Why not match up the teams with losing records for another game to end their season? More practice, more reps more chance to develop and if you don't like it don't watch..
I wish this site had a like button! :goodpost:
I guess I was under the impression that Bowl Games were designed to reward teams for a winning season, not a developmental game for athletes. :shrug:
Bowl games were designed as marketing tools for the schools and a way to make money for the bowl organizers.
Are there any Bowl games that are nonprofits? Therefore, all the corporate donors receive a decent tax break and free advertising. But, aren't you the bean counter who could start your own Bowl and invite certain schools at your own discretion?



User avatar
SonomaCat
Moderator
Posts: 23987
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:56 pm
Location: Sonoma County, CA
Contact:

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Post by SonomaCat » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:22 pm

Cat Grad wrote:
SonomaCat wrote:
The Butcher wrote:
Cat Grad wrote:
seataccat wrote:I don't see the issue.... Why not match up the teams with losing records for another game to end their season? More practice, more reps more chance to develop and if you don't like it don't watch..
I wish this site had a like button! :goodpost:
I guess I was under the impression that Bowl Games were designed to reward teams for a winning season, not a developmental game for athletes. :shrug:
Bowl games were designed as marketing tools for the schools and a way to make money for the bowl organizers.
Are there any Bowl games that are nonprofits? Therefore, all the corporate donors receive a decent tax break and free advertising. But, aren't you the bean counter who could start your own Bowl and invite certain schools at your own discretion?
The bowl games are all operated by non-profit entities ... that doesn't mean that the people who work for them don't make tons of money (they do).

The corporations don't get any special tax breaks for spending money on the bowl games, to my knowledge, but they do deduct the business expenses they incur relating to the bowl games (generally advertising).



Cat Grad
Golden Bobcat
Posts: 7463
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:05 am

Re: Bowl Games Losing Records

Post by Cat Grad » Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:21 pm

SonomaCat wrote:
Cat Grad wrote:
SonomaCat wrote:
The Butcher wrote:
Cat Grad wrote:
seataccat wrote:I don't see the issue.... Why not match up the teams with losing records for another game to end their season? More practice, more reps more chance to develop and if you don't like it don't watch..
I wish this site had a like button! :goodpost:
I guess I was under the impression that Bowl Games were designed to reward teams for a winning season, not a developmental game for athletes. :shrug:
Bowl games were designed as marketing tools for the schools and a way to make money for the bowl organizers.
Are there any Bowl games that are nonprofits? Therefore, all the corporate donors receive a decent tax break and free advertising. But, aren't you the bean counter who could start your own Bowl and invite certain schools at your own discretion?
The bowl games are all operated by non-profit entities ... that doesn't mean that the people who work for them don't make tons of money (they do).

The corporations don't get any special tax breaks for spending money on the bowl games, to my knowledge, but they do deduct the business expenses they incur relating to the bowl games (generally advertising).
Yep. They "sponsor" a bowl, choose their college, pass out tickets to their clients, write it off, receive the minimum ticket allocation from the college, donate to their college and we get to watch our kids play another game, all the band members families enjoy the time to get together, all the non revenue sport athletes get to enjoy the college experience long after middle age with all their college buddies and it's a two to three week vacation in a cool venue such as Orlando or Tampa. But we're going to ridicule them because they don't have a real playoff with one week to prepare for the next team...



Post Reply