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How many years...

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:34 pm
by lutecat
Until Stitt takes off for a FBS school?

I say 1. A smart man looking to move up would realize that after that game on National TV, his exposure is at a high. Next year he could go undefeated, but he wouldn't have THE only game on TV to start the season that everyone was watching. His name is on people's tongues right now. AD's know him. Fans know him. He could be the "sexy" hire. I can see it happening. That's IF the rest of the season builds on that to make a nice resume.

Re: How many years...

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:47 pm
by Cat Grad
lutecat wrote:Until Stitt takes off for a FBS school?

I say 1. A smart man looking to move up would realize that after that game on National TV, his exposure is at a high. Next year he could go undefeated, but he wouldn't have THE only game on TV to start the season that everyone was watching. His name is on people's tongues right now. AD's know him. Fans know him. He could be the "sexy" hire. I can see it happening. That's IF the rest of the season builds on that to make a nice resume.
In a very POLYester world of smoke and mirrors and no real substance, all that follows is: "Give me Liberty or give me..."

Re: How many years...

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:58 pm
by SonomaCat
It would be pretty impressive if a guy toiled as a head coach at D-II for 15 years after being a lower-level assistant for about 15 years prior to that and then suddenly became a one and done kind of guy. His stock is hot right this second, but I'm not convinced that he's suddenly become a major college coaching prospect after one game. I think he will need to build a resume of success over several years ... unless the Griz just go on to beat everyone by 40 and win the Natty ... then I'd think he'd be gone by the time the final game ended (as any coach at this level would).

Re: How many years...

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:18 pm
by John K
Cat Grad wrote:
lutecat wrote:Until Stitt takes off for a FBS school?

I say 1. A smart man looking to move up would realize that after that game on National TV, his exposure is at a high. Next year he could go undefeated, but he wouldn't have THE only game on TV to start the season that everyone was watching. His name is on people's tongues right now. AD's know him. Fans know him. He could be the "sexy" hire. I can see it happening. That's IF the rest of the season builds on that to make a nice resume.
In a very POLYester world of smoke and mirrors and no real substance, all that follows is: "Give me Liberty or give me..."
What? Am I the only one who has no idea what this means? If so, would someone please explain it to me?

Re: How many years...

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:27 pm
by John K
SonomaCat wrote:It would be pretty impressive if a guy toiled as a head coach at D-II for 15 years after being a lower-level assistant for about 15 years prior to that and then suddenly became a one and done kind of guy. His stock is hot right this second, but I'm not convinced that he's suddenly become a major college coaching prospect after one game. I think he will need to build a resume of success over several years ... unless the Griz just go on to beat everyone by 40 and win the Natty ... then I'd think he'd be gone by the time the final game ended (as any coach at this level would).
I agree, and I also believe the exposure that he may have gained from the NDSU game is not as much of a factor as some people may think. If there really is substance behind the "Stitt Show', then FBS AD's all around the country already have him on their radar. If for some reason he hasn't been viewed as a prime candidate for an FBS job, then there are some valid underlying reasons for that, and one game, no matter how "splashy" it was, isn't going to change that perception. It will take 3-4 very successful seasons at UM to do that.

Re: How many years...

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:58 pm
by [cat_bracket]
John K wrote:
SonomaCat wrote:It would be pretty impressive if a guy toiled as a head coach at D-II for 15 years after being a lower-level assistant for about 15 years prior to that and then suddenly became a one and done kind of guy. His stock is hot right this second, but I'm not convinced that he's suddenly become a major college coaching prospect after one game. I think he will need to build a resume of success over several years ... unless the Griz just go on to beat everyone by 40 and win the Natty ... then I'd think he'd be gone by the time the final game ended (as any coach at this level would).
I agree, and I also believe the exposure that he may have gained from the NDSU game is not as much of a factor as some people may think. If there really is substance behind the "Stitt Show', then FBS AD's all around the country already have him on their radar. If for some reason he hasn't been viewed as a prime candidate for an FBS job, then there are some valid underlying reasons for that, and one game, no matter how "splashy" it was, isn't going to change that perception. It will take 3-4 very successful seasons at UM to do that.
He was fairly well known already, but burst onto the scene when WVA beat Clemson 70-? In a bowl game and Dana Holgerson thanked him on national TV during the post game show. He's been featured in early major sports outlet since taking the um job, which are posted here. If he gets um to 9-2 he's gone. He's already been asked to take OC jobs, but is holding out to be a head coach. Hence why he lasted at Mines so long. Twitter lit up with congrats from coaches all around the country after they beat NDSU. Someone will definitely offer and he'd be nuts to turn it down. Probably triple his salary. He has also stated that he can do this anywhere.

Re: How many years...

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:20 pm
by Sportin' Life
I kind of agree. Unfortunately at this level if the coach is really good, he will be gone, and if not, well we get to keep him. I was amazed the other day logging on to the main college football page on ESPN seeing the story about Stitt being the lead. It doesn't bode well for the long term.

Re: How many years...

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:43 pm
by John K
[cat_bracket] wrote:
John K wrote:
SonomaCat wrote:It would be pretty impressive if a guy toiled as a head coach at D-II for 15 years after being a lower-level assistant for about 15 years prior to that and then suddenly became a one and done kind of guy. His stock is hot right this second, but I'm not convinced that he's suddenly become a major college coaching prospect after one game. I think he will need to build a resume of success over several years ... unless the Griz just go on to beat everyone by 40 and win the Natty ... then I'd think he'd be gone by the time the final game ended (as any coach at this level would).
I agree, and I also believe the exposure that he may have gained from the NDSU game is not as much of a factor as some people may think. If there really is substance behind the "Stitt Show', then FBS AD's all around the country already have him on their radar. If for some reason he hasn't been viewed as a prime candidate for an FBS job, then there are some valid underlying reasons for that, and one game, no matter how "splashy" it was, isn't going to change that perception. It will take 3-4 very successful seasons at UM to do that.
He was fairly well known already, but burst onto the scene when WVA beat Clemson 70-? In a bowl game and Dana Holgerson thanked him on national TV during the post game show. He's been featured in early major sports outlet since taking the um job, which are posted here. If he gets um to 9-2 he's gone. He's already been asked to take OC jobs, but is holding out to be a head coach. Hence why he lasted at Mines so long. Twitter lit up with congrats from coaches all around the country after they beat NDSU. Someone will definitely offer and he'd be nuts to turn it down. Probably triple his salary. He has also stated that he can do this anywhere.
For seemingly the umpteenth time, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. :wink: I'm not necessarily saying he won't be hired away by an FBS school at the end of the season, if UM has a great year. I'm just saying that this one game isn't necessarily going to be the thing that vaults him onto the radar screen of bigger schools, or that moves him to the top of the list, if he was already on their radar. And for whatever it's worth, do we know that he really has turned down numerous OC opportunities at FBS schools? UM fans have been saying that, whenever they're asked why he was at Colorado Mines for so long. if he's such an offensive genius. Maybe it's true, but I wouldn't bet my mortgage on it. Plus, even if he does get an FBS offer at the end of the year, it's likely going to be from a lower tier program. If he's really as selective with his career choices as UM fans have implied, then he may decide he'd be better off continuing to build his resume at UM for another few years, and waiting for an offer from a better program. I'm just saying let's pump the brakes a little bit, and see how the rest of the season plays out, before anointing him as the next Nick Saban or Urban Meyer, based upon the outcome of just this one game.

Re: How many years...

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:24 pm
by kcatz
John K wrote:
Cat Grad wrote:
lutecat wrote:Until Stitt takes off for a FBS school?

I say 1. A smart man looking to move up would realize that after that game on National TV, his exposure is at a high. Next year he could go undefeated, but he wouldn't have THE only game on TV to start the season that everyone was watching. His name is on people's tongues right now. AD's know him. Fans know him. He could be the "sexy" hire. I can see it happening. That's IF the rest of the season builds on that to make a nice resume.
In a very POLYester world of smoke and mirrors and no real substance, all that follows is: "Give me Liberty or give me..."
What? Am I the only one who has no idea what this means? If so, would someone please explain it to me?
John, griz play Poly and Liberty in next 2 games. I think that may be where they were going with it......

Re: How many years...

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:40 pm
by lutecat
John, it's the fact that this was the one game on TV and everyone watched it. He might be the sexy hire for someone where they could sell their fan base on him because of the game the fans know him. Not a "who's this guy" for the fans. By no means am I saying he's good and should be hired, but it would make a splash for an AD looking to make a splash.

I know griz fans say he turned down oc jobs but I read an espn article last week that said he put in apps for HC jobs and OC jobs all around the country. So that's not true it seems.

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Re: How many years...

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:40 pm
by allcat
kcatz wrote:
John K wrote:
Cat Grad wrote:
lutecat wrote:Until Stitt takes off for a FBS school?

I say 1. A smart man looking to move up would realize that after that game on National TV, his exposure is at a high. Next year he could go undefeated, but he wouldn't have THE only game on TV to start the season that everyone was watching. His name is on people's tongues right now. AD's know him. Fans know him. He could be the "sexy" hire. I can see it happening. That's IF the rest of the season builds on that to make a nice resume.
In a very POLYester world of smoke and mirrors and no real substance, all that follows is: "Give me Liberty or give me..."
What? Am I the only one who has no idea what this means? If so, would someone please explain it to me?
John, griz play Poly and Liberty in next 2 games. I think that may be where they were going with it......
I think he has a brookie on the line.

Re: How many years...

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:09 pm
by John K
kcatz wrote:
John K wrote:
Cat Grad wrote:
lutecat wrote:Until Stitt takes off for a FBS school?

I say 1. A smart man looking to move up would realize that after that game on National TV, his exposure is at a high. Next year he could go undefeated, but he wouldn't have THE only game on TV to start the season that everyone was watching. His name is on people's tongues right now. AD's know him. Fans know him. He could be the "sexy" hire. I can see it happening. That's IF the rest of the season builds on that to make a nice resume.
In a very POLYester world of smoke and mirrors and no real substance, all that follows is: "Give me Liberty or give me..."
What? Am I the only one who has no idea what this means? If so, would someone please explain it to me?
John, griz play Poly and Liberty in next 2 games. I think that may be where they were going with it......
Ahhh...gotcha. Thanks.

Re: How many years...

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:22 pm
by GRIZ1STCATS2ND
Wow. Change of tune around here for some posters from the last few months. One game it was. I'm pretty confident things will improve as he fine tunes but not without some bumps along the way.

I didn't know Stitt about Stitt until his name was mentioned as one of the finalists. I was a believer before kickoff on Saturday. I didn't think we would look decent so early but I won't complain.

As I have mentioned in other posts Stitt wouldn't have taken any job anywhere just because it paid more. He wants to run his offense like he wants to run it and from comments he has made be isn't going to just uproot his kids every year or two and make them start over in a new school trying to make new friends.

I say he sticks around a bit. I know for certain Kent discussed move up options we MAY have when he interviewed. My hopes is that if we move to the next level he sees us through that transition.

With that said.....every team with a great coach or coordinated thinks they are loyal to their favorite team and quite often fans, players and staff are blindsided when news starts leaking out of a quick exit.

If he continues to do well here hopefully dangling from the FBS carrot in front of his face will keep him focused and loyal to the U of M.

Some of you may roll your eyes at this "theory" but I can assure you it was something that was considered when he signed on the dotted line.

Re: How many years...

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:28 pm
by PapaG
lutecat wrote:John, it's the fact that this was the one game on TV and everyone watched it. He might be the sexy hire for someone where they could sell their fan base on him because of the game the fans know him. Not a "who's this guy" for the fans. By no means am I saying he's good and should be hired, but it would make a splash for an AD looking to make a splash.

I know griz fans say he turned down oc jobs but I read an espn article last week that said he put in apps for HC jobs and OC jobs all around the country. So that's not true it seems.

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I just don't see how The game would get big ratings on ESPN. The numbers don't come out until later this week, but I'm guessing it got somewhere near a 1.4, or maybe not even that high since it was on a Saturday afternoon and the last weekend of August, and up against the LLWS U.S. Championship as well as American Pharoah in the Travers Stakes .

As for the game, I saw some serious game management issues from Stitt at the end of the first half that almost cost UM the game. If Counts gets stuffed on the last play, are we talking about how Stitt's calls at the end of the first half cost them the game?

Re: How many years...

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:58 pm
by lutecat
I'm not disagreeing with anything you said. But I'm guessing more AD'S watched that game than a normal FCS game. I'm not saying it got spectacular ratings with everyone.

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Re: How many years...

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:38 pm
by SonomaCat
Not to take anything away from Stitt, but why is this win being seen so much as a "Stitt" win as opposed to a UM win? Is it simply because he has been so effective at marketing himself in the past and has created the advance buzz so that the media is now giving him the credit for the win?

I think UM could have won this game under Delaney or any of their other past coaches ... they almost always have the talent to beat anyone, especially at home.

I give UM all the credit in the world for that win, and Stitt gets some credit for being the head coach in the win. At the same time, I certainly didn't see a game where the only reason UM won was because of some kind of zen coaching performance ... they have a lot of talent (almost all of which was from the prior coaching staff's efforts).

Re: How many years...

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:45 pm
by LongTimeCatFan
allcat wrote:
kcatz wrote:
John K wrote:
Cat Grad wrote:
lutecat wrote:Until Stitt takes off for a FBS school?

I say 1. A smart man looking to move up would realize that after that game on National TV, his exposure is at a high. Next year he could go undefeated, but he wouldn't have THE only game on TV to start the season that everyone was watching. His name is on people's tongues right now. AD's know him. Fans know him. He could be the "sexy" hire. I can see it happening. That's IF the rest of the season builds on that to make a nice resume.
In a very POLYester world of smoke and mirrors and no real substance, all that follows is: "Give me Liberty or give me..."
What? Am I the only one who has no idea what this means? If so, would someone please explain it to me?
John, griz play Poly and Liberty in next 2 games. I think that may be where they were going with it......
I think he has a brookie on the line.
So what have you been catching...

Aside from the usual

Re: How many years...

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:43 am
by TomCat88
SonomaCat wrote:It would be pretty impressive if a guy toiled as a head coach at D-II for 15 years after being a lower-level assistant for about 15 years prior to that and then suddenly became a one and done kind of guy. His stock is hot right this second, but I'm not convinced that he's suddenly become a major college coaching prospect after one game. I think he will need to build a resume of success over several years ... unless the Griz just go on to beat everyone by 40 and win the Natty ... then I'd think he'd be gone by the time the final game ended (as any coach at this level would).
I wouldn't say he's been toiling these past few years. He's been fairly highly regarded by those in the coaching ranks as witnessed by how often he's used as a resource by other big name coaching staffs. Then when he is used, whatever he says works. The Vikings actually came to see Stitt in Missoula this summer, which shows an added level of respect. The national media attention he's getting is very rare for a coach at this level. Everyone knows who he is right now and if he continues to win that won't die down. There will be the usual 15-20 programs looking for a coach after this season. After the NDSU win their schedule just got a whole lot easier and their confidence just grew tremendously and their buy in to what Stitt is doing is now complete. If they get past the Mustangs and Liberty, then run through the soft part of their schedule like they should I can't imagine how he wouldn't be one of the more sought after coaches in the nation.

Re: How many years...

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:18 am
by lutecat
GRIZ1STCATS2ND wrote:Wow. Change of tune around here for some posters from the last few months. One game it was. I'm pretty confident things will improve as he fine tunes but not without some bumps along the way.

I didn't know Stitt about Stitt until his name was mentioned as one of the finalists. I was a believer before kickoff on Saturday. I didn't think we would look decent so early but I won't complain.

As I have mentioned in other posts Stitt wouldn't have taken any job anywhere just because it paid more. He wants to run his offense like he wants to run it and from comments he has made be isn't going to just uproot his kids every year or two and make them start over in a new school trying to make new friends.

I say he sticks around a bit. I know for certain Kent discussed move up options we MAY have when he interviewed. My hopes is that if we move to the next level he sees us through that transition.

With that said.....every team with a great coach or coordinated thinks they are loyal to their favorite team and quite often fans, players and staff are blindsided when news starts leaking out of a quick exit.

If he continues to do well here hopefully dangling from the FBS carrot in front of his face will keep him focused and loyal to the U of M.

Some of you may roll your eyes at this "theory" but I can assure you it was something that was considered when he signed on the dotted line.
Where are you getting your info? From the egriz in-the-know guys? Because I see the speculation on egriz, but that's it. Speculation. You can't take the move up carrot as fact. And the he want to run the offense like it wants to run it stuff? I read an espn article last week that infact debunked this little egriz myth. It said he put in for apps for head coaching positions AND OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR positions that he did not get. Sorry, he got a chance at UM but he was looking for a change prior to that.

If you think because a coach said he doesn't like to uproot his family so you think he'll stay put.....well, coaches say that alot.

Re: How many years...

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:28 am
by KittieKop
Craig Bohl managed to make it all the way to Wyoming. :? Stitt should probably expect to be at Texas A&M or USC after that 1 great FCS victory, no? :roll: