North Dakota State voter fraud

catgrad05 · Post by **catgrad05** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:53 am

Saw this on ESPN. Apparently ten members of the team plead guilty but the coach says that they will not be suspended. Don't get me wrong the coach makes the final decsion and who am I to say what is a suspendable case however I 100% disapprove of not having a more harsh penalty for screwing with votes. After all voting and fair elections are what our country is supposidly based on.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... tion-fraud

Post by **kmax** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:03 am

This was discussed here (viewtopic.php?f=16&t=28162" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) when it first came out. Considering it was pushed down to a misdemeanor it's understandable that the penalty will be light and handled internally. As to whether something like this should just be a misdemeanor and not carry anything more than a little community service time is a whole other issue in my mind.

KeepTheChange · Post by **KeepTheChange** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:29 am

Really shows the coach's priorities IMO. This is a major character issue with his players. Especially since a part of the ballot was geared towards legalizing marijuana.

wbtfg · Post by **wbtfg** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:29 am

No wonder they're ranked number 1 in the polls. They have Mickey mouse and jimmy Hoffa voting for them.

Devlan · Post by **Devlan** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:29 pm

What if the players had been caught cheating on a test? They would be expelled from the university and kicked off the team. Is voter registration fraud much different?

kcatz · Post by **kcatz** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:10 pm

What if the players had been caught cheating on a test? The would be expelled from the university and kicked off the team. Is voter registration fraud much different?

Well in this case it cost Ducks Unlimited $250,000 in television ads they bought because they believed that the clean water iniative had garnered enough signatures to appear on the ballot.

WeedKillinCat · Post by **WeedKillinCat** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:17 pm

kcatz wrote:
What if the players had been caught cheating on a test? The would be expelled from the university and kicked off the team. Is voter registration fraud much different?
Well in this case it cost Ducks Unlimited $250,000 in television ads they bought because they believed that the clean water iniative had garnered enough signatures to appear on the ballot.

Maybe DU sues the players/organization that they worked for?

catgrad05 · Post by **catgrad05** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:34 pm

kmax wrote:This was discussed here (viewtopic.php?f=16&t=28162" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) when it first came out. Considering it was pushed down to a misdemeanor it's understandable that the penalty will be light and handled internally. As to whether something like this should just be a misdemeanor and not carry anything more than a little community service time is a whole other issue in my mind.

I do not have a problem with the way the coach is handleing the misdemeanor I just have a problem with the crime only being a misdemeanor and had hoped the coach would take a more aggressive stance for the nature of the incident. But with 10 active players involved I am sure they let them off easy since they are so successful (sounds like griz punishment to me)

GOPCAT03 · Post by **GOPCAT03** » Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:26 pm

If those Griz players would have tried election fraud instead of rape, perhaps their season would look a lot differently than it does now!