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Here are the Montana and Montana State OOC schedules since 1990. I ranked each year as which school had it tougher, although some were very close - I didn't take into account result of the game, only schedules. Generally, division II teams and division I-A teams canceled each other out.

1990 (Montana State)
Griz: Oregon State, Thomas More, McNeese State
Cats: Colorado State, Western Illinois, Tulsa

1991 (Montana)
Griz: Humboldt State, Louisiana Tech, McNeese State
Cats: Minnesota-Duluth, Sam Houston State, Sac State

1992 (even)
Griz: Washington State, Cal State-Chico, Kansas State, Hofstra
Cats: Sac State, Stephen F. Austin, Mesa State, UNLV

1993 (even)
Griz: South Dakota State, Oregon, Jacksonville State
Cats: Western Illinois, Washington State, Fort Lewis, Southern Utah

1994 (even)
Griz: Sonoma State, Carson-Newman, North Texas, Cal Poly
Cats: Minnesota-Duluth, Stephen F. Austin, Sac State, W. New Mexico

1995 (Montana State)
Griz: E. New Mexico, Washington State, Minnesota-Duluth, UC Davis
Cats: Colorado State, Central Washington, Cal Poly, Texas State

1996 (Montana)
Griz: Oregon State, Cal Poly, Southern Utah
Cats: Nevada, Cal Poly, Minnesota-Duluth

1997 (Montana)
Griz: Stephen F. Austin, Saint Mary's, Wyoming
Cats: Chadron State, Texas State, Cal Poly

1998 (even)
Griz: Stephen F. Austin, Southern Utah, Cal Poly
Cats: Fort Lewis, Wyoming, Western Washington

1999 (Montana)
Griz: South Dakota, Idaho, Cal Poly
Cats: Chadron State, Western New Mexico, Cal Poly

2000 (Montana)
Griz: Hofstra, Idaho, Cal Poly
Cats: Humboldt State, Cal Poly, Idaho

2001 (Montana State)
Griz: Cal Poly, Hawaii, Western Washington, Saint Mary's
Cats: Alabama-Birmingham, Cal Poly, Washington State

2002 (even)
Griz: Hofstra, Albany, Northern Colorado, Idaho, Southern Utah
Cats: Saint Mary's, Stephen F. Austin, Adams State, Wazzu, C. Wash.

2003 (Montana)
Griz: Maine, North Dakota State, Sam Houston State, Idaho, Cal Poly
Cats: Wyoming, Gardner-Webb, Cal Poly, Northern Colorado, Saint Marys

2004 (even)
Griz: Maine, Hofstra, Sam Houston State, Northern Colorado
Cats: Adams State, Cal Poly, Colorado State, South Dakota State

2005 (Montana State)
Griz: Fort Lewis, Oregon, South Dakota State, Cal Poly
Cats: Oklahoma State, Stephen F. Austin, Cal Poly, North Dakota State

2006 (Montana)
Griz: Iowa, South Dakota State, Cal Poly
Cats: Colorado, Chadron State. UC Davis

2007 (Montana State)
Griz: Southern Utah, Fort Lewis, Albany
Cats: Texas A&M, Southern Utah, Dixie State

Some of these years were pretty close and could have gone to either team, but I tried to be as objective as possible. The final tallies came out as follow:

Griz - 7
Cats - 5
even - 8[/b]

Just a guess, but I'm thinking you're the piccolo player (obviously wearing 'dark pink')- even the tuba player has a life.

(No offense intended whatsoever to band members) Bands are a great part of collegiate ball.

GOKATS wrote:Just a guess, but I'm thinking you're the piccolo player (obviously wearing 'dark pink')- even the tuba player has a life.

(No offense intended whatsoever to band members) Bands are a great part of collegiate ball.

Except when it comes to Montana State it appears. Ours is a joke.

GOKATS wrote:Just a guess, but I'm thinking you're the piccolo player (obviously wearing 'dark pink')- even the tuba player has a life.

(No offense intended whatsoever to band members) Bands are a great part of collegiate ball.

Actually, I'm a trumpet player. Only played 2 years in high school (we were required too). but its a different game in college. Still lots of band nerds, but more cool people to even out the mix.

GOKATS wrote:Just a guess, but I'm thinking you're the piccolo player (obviously wearing 'dark pink')- even the tuba player has a life.

(No offense intended whatsoever to band members) Bands are a great part of collegiate ball.

Unfortunately, he/she (gotta be pc with the pink) failed to give the records of the opponents. Must have been an oversight

Cat Grad wrote:

GOKATS wrote:Just a guess, but I'm thinking you're the piccolo player (obviously wearing 'dark pink')- even the tuba player has a life.

(No offense intended whatsoever to band members) Bands are a great part of collegiate ball.

Unfortunately, he/she (gotta be pc with the pink) failed to give the records of the opponents. Must have been an oversight

Wasn't an oversight, just didn't have the time. What good would records be without schedules, which would have taken much more time. This ranking isn't gospel, just my opinion, and is not steadfast. After reading through the list again, I would change 2004 to the Cats.

Good effort. You guys get chastized for having a creampuff schedule thisyear and you have to come up with something to show your "greatness." Hell why didn't you go back to 1897?

Hawks86 wrote:Good effort. You guys get chastized for having a creampuff schedule thisyear and you have to come up with something to show your "greatness." Hell why didn't you go back to 1897?

People have chastised the Griz schedule for a few years now, and as someone pointed out, the article referenced Read's scheduling in the early 90s. Again, this wasn't mean to build up the Griz, only give a comparison between the two schools.

Hawks86 wrote:Good effort. You guys get chastized for having a creampuff schedule thisyear and you have to come up with something to show your "greatness." Hell why didn't you go back to 1897?

Then he'd have to explain this:

http://www.pac-10.org/school-bio/pac10-school-bio.html

and then he'd have to explain why they scheduled a team (us) who at the time were on the same level as our state's frontier schools every damn year.

Cat Grad wrote:

Hawks86 wrote:Good effort. You guys get chastized for having a creampuff schedule thisyear and you have to come up with something to show your "greatness." Hell why didn't you go back to 1897?

Then he'd have to explain this:

http://www.pac-10.org/school-bio/pac10-school-bio.html

and then he'd have to explain why they scheduled a team (us) who at the time were on the same level as our state's frontier schools every damn year.

Possibly because it was an in-state rivalry. Also, I don't know the reasoning, but i don't think we had any business playing that conference as long as we did.

grizband wrote:

Hawks86 wrote:Good effort. You guys get chastized for having a creampuff schedule thisyear and you have to come up with something to show your "greatness." Hell why didn't you go back to 1897?

People have chastised the Griz schedule for a few years now, and as someone pointed out, the article referenced Read's scheduling in the early 90s. Again, this wasn't mean to build up the Griz, only give a comparison between the two schools.

First of all, the teams you scheduled in the early 90s flat assed sucked. Period. What they are today is not relevant. Understand that yet?

The teams you've scheduled this year sucks. That's the analogy!

Cat Grad wrote:

grizband wrote:

Hawks86 wrote:Good effort. You guys get chastized for having a creampuff schedule thisyear and you have to come up with something to show your "greatness." Hell why didn't you go back to 1897?

People have chastised the Griz schedule for a few years now, and as someone pointed out, the article referenced Read's scheduling in the early 90s. Again, this wasn't mean to build up the Griz, only give a comparison between the two schools.

First of all, the teams you scheduled in the early 90s flat assed sucked. Period. What they are today is not relevant. Understand that yet?

The teams you've scheduled this year sucks. That's the analogy!

Yes, I do. Do you understand that the teams you scheduled in the 1990s were pretty much on par with ours?

You know, any team you've played for--hell, let's say 20 or more times--you have a losing record against, except for one. For Christ's sake, I think udaho owns you as badly as that record ya'll crow about against us

Since the mid-90s, you've had a run of success, albeit somewhat watered down in that about that time, our conference lost three fairly significant teams. But somehow, I get the feeling I'm talking to someone who was not there to enjoy your true "glory years "

grizband wrote:

Cat Grad wrote:

Hawks86 wrote:Good effort. You guys get chastized for having a creampuff schedule thisyear and you have to come up with something to show your "greatness." Hell why didn't you go back to 1897?

Then he'd have to explain this:

http://www.pac-10.org/school-bio/pac10-school-bio.html

and then he'd have to explain why they scheduled a team (us) who at the time were on the same level as our state's frontier schools every damn year.

Possibly because it was an in-state rivalry. Also, I don't know the reasoning, but i don't think we had any business playing that conference as long as we did.

How much Montana history do you really know? During the era you were in the PAC10, you were THEE principal educational institution of this state. Butte was something to behold. Tech was considered a better educational institution than the Little Aggie School that didn't back down from anybody. And your school embarrassed.

Go study.

Cat Grad wrote:

grizband wrote:

Cat Grad wrote:

Hawks86 wrote:Good effort. You guys get chastized for having a creampuff schedule thisyear and you have to come up with something to show your "greatness." Hell why didn't you go back to 1897?

Then he'd have to explain this:

http://www.pac-10.org/school-bio/pac10-school-bio.html

and then he'd have to explain why they scheduled a team (us) who at the time were on the same level as our state's frontier schools every damn year.

Possibly because it was an in-state rivalry. Also, I don't know the reasoning, but i don't think we had any business playing that conference as long as we did.

How much Montana history do you really know? During the era you were in the PAC10, you were THEE principal educational institution of this state. Butte was something to behold. Tech was considered a better educational institution than the Little Aggie School that didn't back down from anybody. And your school embarrassed.

Go study.

I did know that, and I'm fine with out beginnings in the Pacific Coast Conference (pre-cursor to the Pac-10), I just think we should have moved earlier (we only stayed from 1924-1950). I don't know why we were only good occasionally until 20 years ago, even after we left that conference.

Cat Grad wrote:You know, any team you've played for--hell, let's say 20 or more times--you have a losing record against, except for one.

I love Cat smack.

grizband wrote:

Cat Grad wrote:

grizband wrote:

Cat Grad wrote:

Hawks86 wrote:Good effort. You guys get chastized for having a creampuff schedule thisyear and you have to come up with something to show your "greatness." Hell why didn't you go back to 1897?

Then he'd have to explain this:

http://www.pac-10.org/school-bio/pac10-school-bio.html

and then he'd have to explain why they scheduled a team (us) who at the time were on the same level as our state's frontier schools every damn year.

Possibly because it was an in-state rivalry. Also, I don't know the reasoning, but i don't think we had any business playing that conference as long as we did.

How much Montana history do you really know? During the era you were in the PAC10, you were THEE principal educational institution of this state. Butte was something to behold. Tech was considered a better educational institution than the Little Aggie School that didn't back down from anybody. And your school embarrassed.

Go study.

I did know that, and I'm fine with out beginnings in the Pacific Coast Conference (pre-cursor to the Pac-10), I just think we should have moved earlier (we only stayed from 1924-1950). I don't know why we were only good occasionally until 20 years ago, even after we left that conference.

During Swarthout's tenure, you were real good, then you disappeared again. Out of all your years of football, how many winning records did you have? None too impressive, is it?

sl--kind of embarrassing--for you--all those years of BIG TIME and...how many years was your win against the Cats your only win

How many more years will it take you to break even

Cat Grad wrote:sl--kind of embarrassing--for you--all those years of BIG TIME and...how many years was your win against the Cats your only win

How many more years will it take you to break even

Probably one more than it takes the Cats.

grizband wrote:

Cat Grad wrote:sl--kind of embarrassing--for you--all those years of BIG TIME and...how many years was your win against the Cats your only win

How many more years will it take you to break even

Probably one more than it takes the Cats.

We already are.