Crazy ending to griz game.

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Is this the Jobu question?

Jobu wrote:
A few years ago Eastern fans stormed their football field with time remaining against the Griz. Would you argue they should have been penalized giving the Griz a shot at a winning FG, or should the officials have done what they did, which was clear the field and let the players decide the game?

If so, that's not a comparable situation. Those are fans from the stands, not a person associated with a team coming on the court/field from the bench.

He doesn't give enough detail for me to make a decision on what to do. What game was it? I don't see a game in the last ten years between um and EWU that has a score that would set up a scenario with um making a game winning kick.

[AlphaGriz1]

Rule book..........still waiting

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Rule book..........still waiting

I'm not saying there is or isn't a rule. I'm saying there should be. Otherwise, besides good sportsmanship, what's stopping teams from using this as a strategy?

[AlphaGriz1]

[tampa_griz]

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You're tapping out? Good move. So you agree there should be a rule against people associated with the team rushing the court from the bench. I'm glad you came to that sensible conclusion.

[GetEm_Griz]

Is this the Jobu question?

Jobu wrote:
A few years ago Eastern fans stormed their football field with time remaining against the Griz. Would you argue they should have been penalized giving the Griz a shot at a winning FG, or should the officials have done what they did, which was clear the field and let the players decide the game?

If so, that's not a comparable situation. Those are fans from the stands, not a person associated with a team coming on the court/field from the bench.

He doesn't give enough detail for me to make a decision on what to do. What game was it? I don't see a game in the last ten years between um and EWU that has a score that would set up a scenario with um making a game winning kick.

the entire team was also on the field with the fans when they rushed the field, so yeah I'd say that there were several people associated with the team on the field from the bench.

[AlphaGriz1]

Its not funny, but this line of thinking had to stop, I am glad he realized it and finally tapped out, it was starting to look silly. I am glad he stopped commenting on this thread and moved into the politics room.

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Is this the Jobu question?

Jobu wrote:
A few years ago Eastern fans stormed their football field with time remaining against the Griz. Would you argue they should have been penalized giving the Griz a shot at a winning FG, or should the officials have done what they did, which was clear the field and let the players decide the game?

If so, that's not a comparable situation. Those are fans from the stands, not a person associated with a team coming on the court/field from the bench.

He doesn't give enough detail for me to make a decision on what to do. What game was it? I don't see a game in the last ten years between um and EWU that has a score that would set up a scenario with um making a game winning kick.

the entire team was also on the field with the fans when they rushed the field, so yeah I'd say that there were several people associated with the team on the field from the bench.

Yes that sounds like something that needs to be penalized. What game was it? I'd like to see the details of what occurred.

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Its not funny, but this line of thinking had to stop, I am glad he realized it and finally tapped out, it was starting to look silly. I am glad he stopped commenting on this thread and moved into the politics room.

So you're on record as being FOR allowing people from the bench to run onto the court?

[allcat]

I just figure the umer's winning this game is the payback for when they got cheated out of beating UCLA with the twin Michael's.

[marceag]

What game was it? I don't see a game in the last ten years between um and EWU that has a score that would set up a scenario with um making a game winning kick.

Eastern rushed the field against the Griz in 2010. Eastern kicked off after hitting a field goal to go up 3 with 4 seconds left. The griz returned the kick and tried a Cal/Stanford deal, the students thought it was over so they rushed the field before the Griz were down. The Refs did call a 15 yard penalty on Eastern for rushing the field and gave the Griz one last play from the 40, the Griz then fumbled the last play and Eastern returned it for a TD.

[marceag]

A few years ago Eastern fans stormed their football field with time remaining against the Griz. Would you argue they should have been penalized giving the Griz a shot at a winning FG, or should the officials have done what they did, which was clear the field and let the players decide the game?

Your answer will be telling, me thinks.



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Eastern was given a 15 yard penalty for that...and the Griz were given one more play

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What game was it? I don't see a game in the last ten years between um and EWU that has a score that would set up a scenario with um making a game winning kick.

Eastern rushed the field against the Griz in 2010. Eastern kicked off after hitting a field goal to go up 3 with 4 seconds left. The griz returned the kick and tried a Cal/Stanford deal, the students thought it was over so they rushed the field before the Griz were down. The Refs did call a 15 yard penalty on Eastern for rushing the field and gave the Griz one last play from the 40, the Griz then fumbled the last play and Eastern returned it for a TD.

Interesting. Sounds fair. Maybe um should've been given the option to make EWU kickoff again from 15 yards deeper. Tough deal, but it sounds like two things were done to compensate for the foul. 1: ball advanced 15 yards; 2: additional play given despite no time remaining. Seeing that it seems like NAU should've been allowed to inbound from near half court. At least then everyone knows there's a penalty for people on the bench going onto the court.

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I see everyone has stfu since marceag posted. Thanks marceag.

As for this notion that my responses were due to my grizz "hatred", please go to egriz.com and check out the comments in the thread titled "Roll Call. Who roots for the cats outside (Cat-grizz)?" In there you'll see what hatred looks like. I'm sure I've never made any comments on here like most of those.

[Potomac Griz]

I see everyone has stfu since marceag posted. Thanks marceag.

Meh... Football rules =/= Basketball rules.

Also, did you check out the Arizona State and Cal games I linked above where entire student sections (and likely bench players looking at the vids and pics) flooded the court early, selfies were taken with players, etc etc? No T called there and those were MUCH worse than a couple fans and an unsuited player rushing the court early. As was stated by the Big Sky Conference since the ball wasn't in play, it's not a technical. Probably basically a warning if anything. Yeah if it happened multiple times in a game then it'd probably result in a T, but not a single time with people rushing early.

Like I said before, I watch as many college basketball games as I can, both online and on TV. I've seen people rush the court many many many times early in big games....never saw a T called.

If you don't like the rule and how it's ALWAYS interpreted in basketball, well...that's just too bad. Might as well be bitching about the Griz winning on a last second 3 pointer because you don't think the 3 point shot should have been added to college basketball

As for this notion that my responses were due to my grizz "hatred", please go to egriz.com and check out the comments in the thread titled "Roll Call. Who roots for the cats outside (Cat-grizz)?" In there you'll see what hatred looks like. I'm sure I've never made any comments on here like most of those.

To tell you the truth, I'm betting if the same thing had happened to the Cats (fans rush court early, etc), i'd be having the same discussion over on eGriz, using the same examples and facepalming frequently as I read the replies of people who are blinded by their hatred for the cats. I damn near gave myself a concussion facepalming that one year when a handful of Griz fans were calling Cat players thugs because of backwards hats...

I get a rivalry can be pretty heated, and there's a lot of hatred between the two teams...but holy ******...you can't be so blinded by it that you throw logic, reason, common sense and evidence out the window for the sake of hating the other program.

[allcat]

I get a rivalry can be pretty heated, and there's a lot of hatred between the two teams...but holy ******...you can't be so blinded by it that you throw logic, reason, common sense and evidence out the window for the sake of hating the other program.[/quote]

Give me one good reason why we have to be reasonable.

[ilovethecats]

i think this coach definitely needs to check his emotion going forward but in general i love stuff like this. dude obviously has passion. you think his guys don't like playing for him? I'm sure he got an ass-chewing after the game but when all was said and done i bet there wasn't a person in the building aside from nau fans and players that didn't think it was pretty cool.

in addition, it would have sucked for a ref to call a tech right there and basically decide the game. get him off the floor, tell him he's an idiot, and let the kids play. it's be like calling a T on a head coach there because he was outside his coaching box.

all that said, it's sad that we're once again discussing what the griz did in the semifinals of the basketball tourney. we can add it to the stories we have to tell about the griz in the tournament to start with, the griz in the big sky championship, the griz in the dance, and the griz one win away from the sweet 16. i know this is a football obsessed board but the griz have had more success in basketball than in football, and their hoops program has been light years ahead of ours. here's hoping fish and crew can get this thing turned around!

[John K]

i think this coach definitely needs to check his emotion going forward but in general i love stuff like this. dude obviously has passion. you think his guys don't like playing for him? I'm sure he got an ass-chewing after the game but when all was said and done i bet there wasn't a person in the building aside from nau fans and players that didn't think it was pretty cool.

in addition, it would have sucked for a ref to call a tech right there and basically decide the game. get him off the floor, tell him he's an idiot, and let the kids play. it's be like calling a T on a head coach there because he was outside his coaching box.

all that said, it's sad that we're once again discussing what the griz did in the semifinals of the basketball tourney. we can add it to the stories we have to tell about the griz in the tournament to start with, the griz in the big sky championship, the griz in the dance, and the griz one win away from the sweet 16. i know this is a football obsessed board but the griz have had more success in basketball than in football, and their hoops program has been light years ahead of ours. here's hoping fish and crew can get this thing turned around!

Good post!! I agree 100% with everything you said.

[Jobu]

The other point of interest is the clock. It shows 0.4, but the coach is all the way to the key. So you have to assume the clock had more time on it when he first hit the court. Please tell me the refs put more than 0.4 when they restarted the game. I hope they aren't that bad.

Bracket, the clock automatically stops after a made basket within the last 1:00 of play. It was automatically a dead ball as soon as it went through the hoop. Perhaps this is the problem. You seem confused on the rules.