Griz vs App State

[RationalGriz]

Heard the injury was a stinger and it caused numbness in one of his hands

[Htowngriz]

App State had three freshmen starting on defense and five more came off the bench. Of 23 defensive players that saw the field 14 were freshmen and sophomores. They also have a new defensive coordinator, new head coach, were on the road, don't have the playoffs as incentive, only returned 4 starters on defense and switched to a 3-4 defense, but um only had 16 points (3 set up by a blocked punt) going into the fourth quarter. Maybe ASU has talent on defense, but if the do it needs game experience.

We had plenty of things working against us last year when we played in Boone, including new coaches, a QB who had never seen the field before, etc, but we still managed to keep it within a touchdown. We beat them down, fair and square. Get used to it.

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App State had three freshmen starting on defense and five more came off the bench. Of 23 defensive players that saw the field 14 were freshmen and sophomores. They also have a new defensive coordinator, new head coach, were on the road, don't have the playoffs as incentive, only returned 4 starters on defense and switched to a 3-4 defense, but um only had 16 points (3 set up by a blocked punt) going into the fourth quarter. Maybe ASU has talent on defense, but if the do it needs game experience.

Here's more on ASU's defense. Last year in the SoCon they were ranked...

6th in Pts allowed out of nine teams (29.3)
8th in total yards (413.2)
6th in rush D (190.6)
8th in pass D (222.6)
7th in pass efficiency D (138.0)
6th in opponent first downs (18.8]
7th in opponent 3rd down conversions (42.6)
8th in opponent 4th down conversions (63.6)
5th in red zone D (81.0)

They only played one FBS team and that was East Carolina, so these stats aren't skewed from that. They lost seven starters on defense, so I'd say they're not as good this year as last year and they weren't good last year on defense.

[Htowngriz]

App State had three freshmen starting on defense and five more came off the bench. Of 23 defensive players that saw the field 14 were freshmen and sophomores. They also have a new defensive coordinator, new head coach, were on the road, don't have the playoffs as incentive, only returned 4 starters on defense and switched to a 3-4 defense, but um only had 16 points (3 set up by a blocked punt) going into the fourth quarter. Maybe ASU has talent on defense, but if the do it needs game experience.

Here's more on ASU's defense. Last year in the SoCon they were ranked...

6th in Pts allowed out of nine teams (29.3)
8th in total yards (413.2)
6th in rush D (190.6)
8th in pass D (222.6)
7th in pass efficiency D (138.0)
6th in opponent first downs (18.8]
7th in opponent 3rd down conversions (42.6)
8th in opponent 4th down conversions (63.6)
5th in red zone D (81.0)

They only played one FBS team and that was East Carolina, so these stats aren't skewed from that. They lost seven starters on defense, so I'd say they're not as good this year as last year and they weren't good last year on defense.

Can we get Monmouth's defensive stats while you're at it?

[GavinDonos]

After what I saw Saturday night. I think Monmouth could probably beat App State.


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App State had three freshmen starting on defense and five more came off the bench. Of 23 defensive players that saw the field 14 were freshmen and sophomores. They also have a new defensive coordinator, new head coach, were on the road, don't have the playoffs as incentive, only returned 4 starters on defense and switched to a 3-4 defense, but um only had 16 points (3 set up by a blocked punt) going into the fourth quarter. Maybe ASU has talent on defense, but if the do it needs game experience.

Here's more on ASU's defense. Last year in the SoCon they were ranked...

6th in Pts allowed out of nine teams (29.3)
8th in total yards (413.2)
6th in rush D (190.6)
8th in pass D (222.6)
7th in pass efficiency D (138.0)
6th in opponent first downs (18.8]
7th in opponent 3rd down conversions (42.6)
8th in opponent 4th down conversions (63.6)
5th in red zone D (81.0)

They only played one FBS team and that was East Carolina, so these stats aren't skewed from that. They lost seven starters on defense, so I'd say they're not as good this year as last year and they weren't good last year on defense.

Can we get Monmouth's defensive stats while you're at it?

Do you seeing anyone in here acting like our win over Monmouth is evidence that we're going all the way? You guys are doing the JJ is Back dance over there and I'm just pointing out that ASU's defense is one that you should tear up. Not one that proves you're invincible.

[catatac]

App State had three freshmen starting on defense and five more came off the bench. Of 23 defensive players that saw the field 14 were freshmen and sophomores. They also have a new defensive coordinator, new head coach, were on the road, don't have the playoffs as incentive, only returned 4 starters on defense and switched to a 3-4 defense, but um only had 16 points (3 set up by a blocked punt) going into the fourth quarter. Maybe ASU has talent on defense, but if the do it needs game experience.

Here's more on ASU's defense. Last year in the SoCon they were ranked...

6th in Pts allowed out of nine teams (29.3)
8th in total yards (413.2)
6th in rush D (190.6)
8th in pass D (222.6)
7th in pass efficiency D (138.0)
6th in opponent first downs (18.8]
7th in opponent 3rd down conversions (42.6)
8th in opponent 4th down conversions (63.6)
5th in red zone D (81.0)

They only played one FBS team and that was East Carolina, so these stats aren't skewed from that. They lost seven starters on defense, so I'd say they're not as good this year as last year and they weren't good last year on defense.

Can we get Monmouth's defensive stats while you're at it?

Do you seeing anyone in here acting like our win over Monmouth is evidence that we're going all the way? You guys are doing the JJ is Back dance over there and I'm just pointing out that ASU's defense is one that you should tear up. Not one that proves you're invincible.

Totally agree. Seriously was not impressed with App, the game plan or otherwise. In fact the head coach even stated that there were going to try running the ball all game long. If I were gearing up for the Griz, I can promise you I'd challenge the secondary right off the bat and if you have some success, then you can mix in the run game. I'll go on record right now and predict that UND gives UM a much better game than App did.

[Htowngriz]

After what I saw Saturday night. I think Monmouth could probably beat App State.


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You guys are painfully delusional. I don't think beating App soundly automactially makes us a national title contender, but saying that beating Monmouth by 21 is more impressive than beating a soon-to-be FBS team by 24 is just insane.

[ImagineSanta]

After what I saw Saturday night. I think Monmouth could probably beat App State.


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You guys are painfully delusional. I don't think beating App soundly automactially makes us a national title contender, but saying that beating Monmouth by 21 is more impressive than beating a soon-to-be FBS team by 24 is just insane.

This means absolutely nothing. UMASS is a FBS team, they lost 45-0 Saturday.

[allcat]

Monmouth is easily twice as good as Appy. Appy is still mourning Jerry Moore, and they just gave up. Monmouth got dominated, it was over at the end of the 1st qtr. Appy, while clearly depressed stayed in the game till the very end. I don't think the gritz got to play one backup player for the entire game. You cannot find one hole in my logic, so you might as well go hug your teddy bears.

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After what I saw Saturday night. I think Monmouth could probably beat App State.


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You guys are painfully delusional. I don't think beating App soundly automactially makes us a national title contender, but saying that beating Monmouth by 21 is more impressive than beating a soon-to-be FBS team by 24 is just insane.

No MSU fans are acting like we're even better than we thought based on the Monmouth game. It went better than expected (3 TDs on the first 12 plays; up 39-3 at half), but this thread is about um vs. ASU. You played a mediocre D and had a decent game. Not a great D and you didn't blow them out.

[GavinDonos]

You played a mediocre D and had a decent game. Not a great D and you didn't blow them out.

A couple things we know for sure about the Griz after week 1:
a) JJ can sure nail the wideout screen
b) Their O-linemen sweat from the ass


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[Htowngriz]

After what I saw Saturday night. I think Monmouth could probably beat App State.


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You guys are painfully delusional. I don't think beating App soundly automactially makes us a national title contender, but saying that beating Monmouth by 21 is more impressive than beating a soon-to-be FBS team by 24 is just insane.

No MSU fans are acting like we're even better than we thought based on the Monmouth game. It went better than expected (3 TDs on the first 12 plays; up 39-3 at half), but this thread is about um vs. ASU. You played a mediocre D and had a decent game. Not a great D and you didn't blow them out.

We also played one of the best receiving corps in FCS (even w/out Price) and held them to 200 yards and 2 field goals. Remember this is the same team that gave up over 600 yards passing less than a year ago.

[cats2506]

You played a mediocre D and had a decent game. Not a great D and you didn't blow them out.

A couple things we know for sure about the Griz after week 1:
a) JJ can sure nail the wideout screen
b) Their O-linemen sweat from the ass


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[MSU01]

Trying to decide whether MSU or UM is better based on one game against different teams might be the most pointless exercise in the history of the universe aside from trying to determine the IQ of any cast member of Jersey Shore. We all know that MSU is good, UM is good, and we will see how good Monmouth and AppSt are. The logic being used here is something along the lines of "Team A beats Team B and Team C beats Team D therefore Team A beats Team C because I really really want Team A to win".

[allcat]

Trying to decide whether MSU or UM is better based on one game against different teams might be the most pointless exercise in the history of the universe aside from trying to determine the IQ of any cast member of Jersey Shore. We all know that MSU is good, UM is good, and we will see how good Monmouth and AppSt are. The logic being used here is something along the lines of "Team A beats Team B and Team C beats Team D therefore Team A beats Team B because I want Team A to win".

Why would you want the gritz to win. We clearly have the better team and they think that if they yell loud enough they will win the arguement. We use logic, they use hope.

[bobcat92]

Based on recent post wasn't this the best FCS game in the last 25 years? I give up Griz get the NC trophy based on this game. The more I read posts about this game the less and less I am convinced that ASU and UM are the best teams in the nation. ASU just looked totally out of synch. Defense wasn't very impressive. Bad night or just not good this season I don't know. What really matters at the end of the season is the number of wins. Don't get me wrong I am not saying the Griz aren't good but a couple more games will sort it out.

[MSU01]

Why would you want the gritz to win. We clearly have the better team and they think that if they yell loud enough they will win the arguement. We use logic, they use hope.

I fail to find the logic in claiming one team is clearly better than another after one game! Unless preseason polls = logic, in which case the UM fans were the logical ones for most of the last 20 years but have now turned into raving lunatics (when we all know that Griz fans have always been raving lunatics...)

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Why would you want the gritz to win. We clearly have the better team and they think that if they yell loud enough they will win the arguement. We use logic, they use hope.

I fail to find the logic in claiming one team is clearly better than another after one game! Unless preseason polls = logic, in which case the UM fans were the logical ones for most of the last 20 years but have now turned into raving lunatics (when we all know that Griz fans have always been raving lunatics...)

No one was arguing who's better. Just pointing out that ASU's defense sucks and um only had 13 points on them by the end of the third. After all their talk it turns out the had a pretty average performance offensively. Their D did well, but ASU's top WR was out and their QB was knocked out. They're under a new head coach and have no postseason chances. It's not like they beat an Armanti Edwards team.

[Htowngriz]

Why would you want the gritz to win. We clearly have the better team and they think that if they yell loud enough they will win the arguement. We use logic, they use hope.

I fail to find the logic in claiming one team is clearly better than another after one game! Unless preseason polls = logic, in which case the UM fans were the logical ones for most of the last 20 years but have now turned into raving lunatics (when we all know that Griz fans have always been raving lunatics...)

No one was arguing who's better. Just pointing out that ASU's defense sucks and um only had 13 points on them by the end of the third. After all their talk it turns out the had a pretty average performance offensively. Their D did well, but ASU's top WR was out and their QB was knocked out. They're under a new head coach and have no postseason chances. It's not like they beat an Armanti Edwards team.

Why do you keep discounting the points we scored on them in the 4th? Do they not count as much as the ones scored in quarters 1-3?