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Post by marceag » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:41 pm

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Bay Area Cat wrote:The fact that Baldwin even took an interview/discussion with a direct conference competitor the week before they play that competitor in the playoffs has to be the biggest slap in the face to a school (EWU) I have ever seen. Kramer leaving for MSU was bad enough, but to have that potentially happen again, under these circumstances, has to be a crushing blow to the pride of that program.
I thought the very same thing. Pretty chickens*** of him to do that (I know others will say that's just business as usual, but loyalty is very important). Says a lot about his character IMO. Baldwin is cut from the same cloth as Hauck.


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Re: Hauck/Baldwin in Griz HC talks?

Post by marceag » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:43 pm

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91catAlum wrote:Who is Stitts? From where?

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HC at Colorado School of Mines.
He is considered by many to be an offensive genius....most notably Dana Holgerson HC at West Virginia. He utilizes the fly sweep concept quite a bit, and in many different ways.
He would be a good Offensive coach for them. I have no idea how he would be as a Head Coach with all it's administrative work (although he's doing it). I also have no idea how good of a recruiter he is (although the academic standard at Colorado School of Mines is very high...similar to our MT Tech...and he is having some success).
He was a finalist when Northern Colorado's head job was open a few years ago.

In my opinion, I don't think he would be a great hire for UM.....but i've been wrong many times before.
Interesting, seems Griz fans think this is the guy. Not sure this is a great hire either. He may be an innovative coach but wins about 2/3 of his games at the D2 level and I don't believe he's ever won the D2 title. Would be an interesting hire, but I don't think its the splash the Griz need....



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Re: Hauck/Baldwin in Griz HC talks?

Post by RationalGriz » Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:00 pm

marceag wrote:
HelenaCat95 wrote:
91catAlum wrote:Who is Stitts? From where?

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HC at Colorado School of Mines.
He is considered by many to be an offensive genius....most notably Dana Holgerson HC at West Virginia. He utilizes the fly sweep concept quite a bit, and in many different ways.
He would be a good Offensive coach for them. I have no idea how he would be as a Head Coach with all it's administrative work (although he's doing it). I also have no idea how good of a recruiter he is (although the academic standard at Colorado School of Mines is very high...similar to our MT Tech...and he is having some success).
He was a finalist when Northern Colorado's head job was open a few years ago.

In my opinion, I don't think he would be a great hire for UM.....but i've been wrong many times before.
Interesting, seems Griz fans think this is the guy. Not sure this is a great hire either. He may be an innovative coach but wins about 2/3 of his games at the D2 level and I don't believe he's ever won the D2 title. Would be an interesting hire, but I don't think its the splash the Griz need....
I think his record is limited by the admission standards of the school and the fact that it is an Engineering school. No diesel mechanic, business, or health degrees.



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Re: Hauck/Baldwin in Griz HC talks?

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marceag wrote:
HelenaCat95 wrote:
91catAlum wrote:Who is Stitts? From where?

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HC at Colorado School of Mines.
He is considered by many to be an offensive genius....most notably Dana Holgerson HC at West Virginia. He utilizes the fly sweep concept quite a bit, and in many different ways.
He would be a good Offensive coach for them. I have no idea how he would be as a Head Coach with all it's administrative work (although he's doing it). I also have no idea how good of a recruiter he is (although the academic standard at Colorado School of Mines is very high...similar to our MT Tech...and he is having some success).
He was a finalist when Northern Colorado's head job was open a few years ago.

In my opinion, I don't think he would be a great hire for UM.....but i've been wrong many times before.
Interesting, seems Griz fans think this is the guy. Not sure this is a great hire either. He may be an innovative coach but wins about 2/3 of his games at the D2 level and I don't believe he's ever won the D2 title. Would be an interesting hire, but I don't think its the splash the Griz need....
I think his record is limited by the admission standards of the school and the fact that it is an Engineering school. No diesel mechanic, business, or health degrees.
Seems strange that they would consider this guy as head coaching material at a big time program (as much as it pains me to say it) like UM. Yes they're FCS, but they are more big time DI football than a lot of the FBS programs out there. Playing in front of 27,000 fans or whatever. I doubt this DII team has ever played in front of this many fans in a season TOTAL. Might be in over his head. Plus, as someone else pointed out, I think you have to go for a coach that has dominated at their level.


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Post by 91catAlum » Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:41 am

Please let him be the second coming of Earl S. :lol:

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Post by 77matcat » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:06 pm

Hagahahaha


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Post by John K » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:12 pm

By the same token, while our experience with hiring a D-II "genius" (Solomonson) didn't turn out very well, UM's previous experience with that worked out extremely well for them...i.e. Joe Glenn.



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Post by 91catAlum » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:14 pm

Does Gregorak stick around as DC if he's not selected?

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John K wrote:By the same token, while our experience with hiring a D-II "genius" (Solomonson) didn't turn out very well, UM's previous experience with that worked out extremely well for them...i.e. Joe Glenn.
However, JG had a proven track record of coaching a DII power UNC, and led them to two national titles. I haven't researched this other Mines school much but it doesn't sound like he's been dominating there.


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Post by John K » Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:13 pm

catatac wrote:
John K wrote:By the same token, while our experience with hiring a D-II "genius" (Solomonson) didn't turn out very well, UM's previous experience with that worked out extremely well for them...i.e. Joe Glenn.
However, JG had a proven track record of coaching a DII power UNC, and led them to two national titles. I haven't researched this other Mines school much but it doesn't sound like he's been dominating there.
That's a good point.



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Post by GRIZ1STCATS2ND » Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:52 pm

What a bunch of rumors floating around. Almost makes me wonder if all these other names are a smoke screen while Hauck hashes out which staff stays and goes........then again Pease was in town today, or at least that was the rumor.



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Post by Bobcat Sig » Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:37 pm

Rumor was that Hauck was in Zoo Town yesterday, as well.

I'm still rather surprised that Hauck is seriously being considered as the head coach. The guys is an embarrassment. Many griz fans love the idea. I don't get it.


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Post by GRIZ1STCATS2ND » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:17 pm

Baldwin not to OSU, or at least not as HC. Pretty sure he is still shopping around though. My guess is unless he gets a killer offer he will see Adams through one more season. Wisconsin HC Gary Anderson to take over at Oregon State. Didn't see that one coming!



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Post by DicTater » Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:21 pm

Bobcat Sig wrote:Rumor was that Hauck was in Zoo Town yesterday, as well.

I'm still rather surprised that Hauck is seriously being considered as the head coach. The guys is an embarrassment. Many griz fans love the idea. I don't get it.
With everything that has gone on at UM regarding the "character" of the players, I don't think that there is a chance in hell that President Engstrom will ever approve Hauck as coach.



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Post by bobcat92 » Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:16 pm

I find it hard to believe that BH would be the HC due to the off field issues that happened when he was at UM. But what do I know.

Lots of Griz fans questioning Stitt as the next HC. Didn't Don Read come from a D2 program and have a unique offense?

Will be fun to find out who it is.



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Post by allcat » Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:22 am

It's crazy not to have the new coach on board, unless the coach's team is still playing.


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Post by John K » Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:53 am

bobcat92 wrote:I find it hard to believe that BH would be the HC due to the off field issues that happened when he was at UM. But what do I know.

Lots of Griz fans questioning Stitt as the next HC. Didn't Don Read come from a D2 program and have a unique offense?

Will be fun to find out who it is.
Read was fired at Oregon, then coached Portland State for a few years, which was D-II at that time, before being hired at UM.



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Post by John K » Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:57 am

allcat wrote:It's crazy not to have the new coach on board, unless the coach's team is still playing.
That's a good point...makes you wonder if it might be Baldwin after all. The Wilkes kid from CMR mentioned their uncertain coaching situation as one of the reasons why he never really gave serious consideration to UM. If that's the case, UM would have had some extra incentive to beat EWU last Saturday.



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Post by BigBruceBaker » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:13 am

John K wrote:
allcat wrote:It's crazy not to have the new coach on board, unless the coach's team is still playing.
That's a good point...makes you wonder if it might be Baldwin after all. The Wilkes kid from CMR mentioned their uncertain coaching situation as one of the reasons why he never really gave serious consideration to UM. If that's the case, UM would have had some extra incentive to beat EWU last Saturday.
It's very strange. I'm really thinking the person they are hiring is still coaching either as a HC or an OC/DC


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Post by LongTimeCatFan » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:14 am

It's not Baldwin. He thinks he has a shot at FBS from where he's at now. That's probably not going to happen.

It's Bob Stitts, Brent Pease, and Bob Hauck, in that order. They're just waiting on Pease to interview this week.



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