Griz Release Football Schedual

CPACAT · Post by **CPACAT** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:07 am

STREETCAT wrote:
rtb wrote:
STREETCAT wrote:Im curious here, we take pay game to make money right such as Iowa last year. Then we turn around and pay three teams to come here? does this make any sense to anyone else? I sure hope the FT. Lewis gets swaped with APE STATE.
The pay-outs are on two different levels. The payouts for playing a Bowl series team is $300K-$600K, we pay the DII and DIII schools 20K-50K. You pay people to come play at your home because you make more than that on a home game, thus it is profitable.
Yes, I think your missing my point why wouldnt you take a 300-600 game when you might make 100 on the game it is replaced by?

After talking with a big time Griz athletic supporter the Griz schedule makes sense. If you can play a 1AA school at home a make $300,00 to $400,000 why would you take $500,000 to play a BCS school on the road. Keep in mind it will cost you $100,000 or so to make the trip. You make $400,000 at home with a likely win or $400,000 on the road with a likely loss. Make sense to me to take as many home games as possible.

I think if you look at the Bobcats proposed schedule it is not much different than the Griz schedule other than the Texas A & M game.

Cledus · Post by **Cledus** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:30 am

Economics aside, which I don't think any informed fan would argue, they continue to show they have no backbone.

Au Blue · Post by **Au Blue** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:45 am

It seems to me the griz are trying to prove they can run the table and win the whole enchilada again. They're frustrated that they've come so close in past years and are trying to manipulate their schedule in such a way that they think they'll roll through the season. 7 home games, 5 to start the season certainly has a chance to get them on a roll and have steam going into the heart of conference play. But, it will backfire on them one of these years. If the griz truly want to claim that they are the predominant team in the FCS then they should start scheduling tougher teams. griz fans may not be happy with this weak schedule now, but come middle of next season, if they've started 5-0, they'll be bragging up a storm.

HelenaCat · Post by **HelenaCat** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:47 am

I agree with Cledus here. The economics are a no-brainer for the griz. However, the economics just justifies a virtual guarantee for Bobby that he gets at least 8 wins and makes the playoffs again. I think Bobby had a lot to do with this schedule. He not only gets to ease his QB into the season, he does not even have to leave Wa-griz for his three extra scrimmages at the start of the year.

CPACAT · Post by **CPACAT** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:21 pm

I am not a griz lover but if you look at their schedule and ours you will find that 9 out of 11 opponents are the same. If you look the other 2 games they have Fort Lewis and we have Dixie State and then we have Texas A & M and they have Albany.

The great thing about 1AA is the playoffs. It doesn't matter about the cream puffs on your schedule you still have to play the best teams in 1AA to win it all.

The griz also have a problem in that they have scheduled quite a few home and home with other schools and then not fufilled their agreement. This is making it more difficult for them to schedule quality teams at home. I hope we don't make a habit of that. I hope the NDSU was a one time deal and that we will honor that return trip next year or we could run into the same scheduling problems in the future.

Htowngriz · Post by **Htowngriz** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:46 pm

El_Gato wrote:
tampa_griz wrote:...I think valid attempts were made to make it beefier but it just didn't fall that way.
You "think" there were valid attempts?

Please support that comment with some facts/data.

I believe O'Day tried to schedule app state (you may have heard of them) but our remaining open date didn't coincide with their's.

GOKATS · Post by **GOKATS** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:01 pm

Htowngriz wrote:
El_Gato wrote:
tampa_griz wrote:...I think valid attempts were made to make it beefier but it just didn't fall that way.
You "think" there were valid attempts?

Please support that comment with some facts/data.
I believe O'Day tried to schedule app state (you may have heard of them) but our remaining open date didn't coincide with their's.

There was a lot of discussion on AGS about that possibility- scheduling didn't have anything to do with it, both teams decided it was too expensive for either team right now. ASU is playing Michigan, but is still trying to fill two game spots.

GOKATS · Post by **GOKATS** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:07 pm

CPACAT wrote:I am not a griz lover but if you look at their schedule and ours you will find that 9 out of 11 opponents are the same. If you look the other 2 games they have Fort Lewis and we have Dixie State and then we have Texas A & M and they have Albany.

The great thing about 1AA is the playoffs. It doesn't matter about the cream puffs on your schedule you still have to play the best teams in 1AA to win it all.

The griz also have a problem in that they have scheduled quite a few home and home with other schools and then not fufilled their agreement. This is making it more difficult for them to schedule quality teams at home. I hope we don't make a habit of that. I hope the NDSU was a one time deal and that we will honor that return trip next year or we could run into the same scheduling problems in the future.

Having 9 common opponents is no big shocker since 8 of the 9 are BSC teams.

BobCatFan · Post by **BobCatFan** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:16 am

CPACAT wrote: It doesn't matter about the cream puffs on your schedule you still have to play the best teams in 1AA to win it all.

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No, you are wrong about that statement. Just look at Portland State last year. They played 3 1a schools and lost 2 of them. If they played three easy cream puffs like the griz are doing, they would have made the playoffs and the Cat's would have been at home watching the playoffs. Strength of schedule has little impact on making the playoffs. Half of the teams get bids and the other 8 are selected by $$ the NCAA can earn, number of wins, and location.

Hell's Bells · Post by **Hell's Bells** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:18 pm

GOKATS wrote:
Htowngriz wrote:
El_Gato wrote:
tampa_griz wrote:...I think valid attempts were made to make it beefier but it just didn't fall that way.
You "think" there were valid attempts?

Please support that comment with some facts/data.
I believe O'Day tried to schedule app state (you may have heard of them) but our remaining open date didn't coincide with their's.
There was a lot of discussion on AGS about that possibility- scheduling didn't have anything to do with it, both teams decided it was too expensive for either team right now. ASU is playing Michigan, but is still trying to fill two game spots.

and i would think hauck did not want a road game against a good team iho

CARDIAC_CATS · Post by **CARDIAC_CATS** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:13 pm

BobCatFan wrote:
CPACAT wrote: It doesn't matter about the cream puffs on your schedule you still have to play the best teams in 1AA to win it all.

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No, you are wrong about that statement. Just look at Portland State last year. They played 3 1a schools and lost 2 of them. If they played three easy cream puffs like the griz are doing, they would have made the playoffs and the Cat's would have been at home watching the playoffs. Strength of schedule has little impact on making the playoffs. Half of the teams get bids and the other 8 are selected by $$ the NCAA can earn, number of wins, and location.

Yep, I think you drop down a lot quicker with LOSSES in the polls than you move up it with wins. MSU's 6-7 game winning streak last year proved that. I say put one big money game in, one good 1-AA team and play a DIV II team every year. That is what I would do as it gives you the best shot to make the playoffs (2 losses in conference as long as you take care of business with your 1-AA and DIV II team at home).

GrizinWashington · Post by **GrizinWashington** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:16 pm

Cledus wrote:Economics aside, which I don't think any informed fan would argue, they continue to show they have no backbone.

C'mon. I'm not real pleased with the schedule either. But your post suggests that the Griz always schedule easy. Over the past 10-15 years, I'd put their schedule up against anyone's. Hell, look at last year. A top DI-A program, and two Top 20 DI-AA teams (SDSU and Poly).

And I agree with the posts that the Griz schedule isn't remarkably different than the cats'.

Bleedinbluengold · Post by **Bleedinbluengold** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:17 pm

Refresh my memory on how the playoff committee looks at Division I wins. Do they give preference to teams with 6 Division I wins? I thought that was the case, because I think that's the only reason MSU made it last year.

So, the griz can probably count on at least 6 conference wins and if you add that to the 3 blow-out wins in non-con, that gives them 9 total wins and certainly a round 1 home game.

I just hope MSU does not have to rely on a victory over A&M to make the playoffs this year.

STREETCAT · Post by **STREETCAT** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:44 pm

Bleedinbluengold wrote:Refresh my memory on how the playoff committee looks at Division I wins. Do they give preference to teams with 6 Division I wins? I thought that was the case, because I think that's the only reason MSU made it last year.

So, the griz can probably count on at least 6 conference wins and if you add that to the 3 blow-out wins in non-con, that gives them 9 total wins and certainly a round 1 home game.

I just hope MSU does not have to rely on a victory over A&M to make the playoffs this year.

I believe it is 7 D-1 wins

GrizinWashington · Post by **GrizinWashington** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:30 pm

The beginning of these two articles do a good job of highlighting what the playoff selection committee looks for:

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.as ... 110806.htm

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.as ... 111506.htm