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I think he's a lock for the CFL, at the very least. May even get an NFL UDFA contract depending on how well he does this season, and also how well he grades out in workouts.msuhunter wrote: If you think Prukop has any chance at a pro career as a QB, I want whatever it is you're drinking!
Vernon Adams didn't have any chance (a cursory invite to a camp doesn't count). Prukop doesn't have the accuracy, decision making, or the experience in anything resembling a pro system. He is a phenomenal athlete who happens to play qb, not a qb who is athletic. Big difference there.kmax wrote:Define "any chance".... If you think he has no chance as the starting QB of Oregon you are the one that is drinking. If he puts up the same type of numbers he did here this year with Oregon he will definitely have a chance. Will he be a first round pick or top prospect, probably not but he will have a chance.msuhunter wrote:If you think Prukop has any chance at a pro career as a QB, I want whatever it is you're drinking! [emoji38] [emoji38]Cataholic wrote:Pretty interesting. I also noticed that no FCS quarterbacks were on the list. I have to believe his chances of a pro career are improved with the increased national exposure.91catAlum wrote:Prukop listed as the #21 best QB in the country.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/ ... P#image=21
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I have a "shot" at a professional football career.PapaG wrote:I think he's a lock for the CFL, at the very least. May even get an NFL UDFA contract depending on how well he does this season, and also how well he grades out in workouts.msuhunter wrote: If you think Prukop has any chance at a pro career as a QB, I want whatever it is you're drinking!
I'll bet you $20 that he ends up with a "shot" at a professional football career.
Big emphasis on the accuracy & decision making. NFL QBs are expected to do things like throw darts into coverage, stand in the pocket and deliver a strike under pressure, and throw receivers open. Prukop has shown zero ability to do any of those things.msuhunter wrote:Vernon Adams didn't have any chance (a cursory invite to a camp doesn't count). Prukop doesn't have the accuracy, decision making, or the experience in anything resembling a pro system. He is a phenomenal athlete who happens to play qb, not a qb who is athletic. Big difference there.kmax wrote:Define "any chance".... If you think he has no chance as the starting QB of Oregon you are the one that is drinking. If he puts up the same type of numbers he did here this year with Oregon he will definitely have a chance. Will he be a first round pick or top prospect, probably not but he will have a chance.msuhunter wrote:If you think Prukop has any chance at a pro career as a QB, I want whatever it is you're drinking! [emoji38] [emoji38]Cataholic wrote:Pretty interesting. I also noticed that no FCS quarterbacks were on the list. I have to believe his chances of a pro career are improved with the increased national exposure.91catAlum wrote:Prukop listed as the #21 best QB in the country.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/ ... P#image=21
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Why are people so anxious to take a shot at this kid? My comment was that the national exposure will help his chances at a pro career. Somebody takes that as an opportunity criticicize his abilities. Ridiculous.msuhunter wrote:If you think Prukop has any chance at a pro career as a QB, I want whatever it is you're drinking!Cataholic wrote:Pretty interesting. I also noticed that no FCS quarterbacks were on the list. I have to believe his chances of a pro career are improved with the increased national exposure.91catAlum wrote:Prukop listed as the #21 best QB in the country.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/ ... P#image=21
How is giving an honest assessment of his strengths and weaknesses "taking a shot" at him? I would have said the same thing if he were at MSU. If you actually read my posts, you would've noticed I said he's a phenomenal athlete, but doesn't have the skills that translate to the NFL as a QB. Two key problems which you didn't address - accuracy and decision making. Some of you people on here really need to get back to your bubbles and your safe-spaces, and realize that simply because there is criticism it isn't always "taking a shot a someone" ....Cataholic wrote:Why are people so anxious to take a shot at this kid? My comment was that the national exposure will help his chances at a pro career. Somebody takes that as an opportunity criticicize his abilities. Ridiculous.msuhunter wrote:If you think Prukop has any chance at a pro career as a QB, I want whatever it is you're drinking!Cataholic wrote:Pretty interesting. I also noticed that no FCS quarterbacks were on the list. I have to believe his chances of a pro career are improved with the increased national exposure.91catAlum wrote:Prukop listed as the #21 best QB in the country.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/ ... P#image=21
Given that MSUhunter may have experience as a pro scout (sarcasm intended), who would want a 6'2" QB who is a leader, smart and superbly athletic with speed and a strong arm???... Wait a second.... Isn't Russell Wilson only 5'11"?
Take a look at your quote above. Were you giving an honest assessment of his skills above when you said "if you think he has a chance at the pros I want some of what you are drinking" or were you just being a jerk? It sounds more like you were taking a shot at him.msuhunter wrote:How is giving an honest assessment of his strengths and weaknesses "taking a shot" at him? I would have said the same thing if he were at MSU. If you actually read my posts, you would've noticed I said he's a phenomenal athlete, but doesn't have the skills that translate to the NFL as a QB. Two key problems which you didn't address - accuracy and decision making. Some of you people on here really need to get back to your bubbles and your safe-spaces, and realize that simply because there is criticism it isn't always "taking a shot a someone" ....Cataholic wrote:Why are people so anxious to take a shot at this kid? My comment was that the national exposure will help his chances at a pro career. Somebody takes that as an opportunity criticicize his abilities. Ridiculous.msuhunter wrote:If you think Prukop has any chance at a pro career as a QB, I want whatever it is you're drinking!Cataholic wrote:Pretty interesting. I also noticed that no FCS quarterbacks were on the list. I have to believe his chances of a pro career are improved with the increased national exposure.91catAlum wrote:Prukop listed as the #21 best QB in the country.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/ ... P#image=21
Given that MSUhunter may have experience as a pro scout (sarcasm intended), who would want a 6'2" QB who is a leader, smart and superbly athletic with speed and a strong arm???... Wait a second.... Isn't Russell Wilson only 5'11"?
This is exactly the culture problem Choate spoke of in regards to Bozeman and the MSU fanbase.
If Adams were 6'2" and not 5'10" he'd be on an NFL roster or practice squad at the very least.bobcat99 wrote:Vernon Adams was a better QB than what Prukop is. If Adams didn't really get a chance at it, I have a hard time imagining that Prukop does. I hope he does, and wish him well, but it seems unlikely.
No you don't. Dumb post.GRIZ1STCATS2ND wrote:I have a "shot" at a professional football career.PapaG wrote:I think he's a lock for the CFL, at the very least. May even get an NFL UDFA contract depending on how well he does this season, and also how well he grades out in workouts.msuhunter wrote: If you think Prukop has any chance at a pro career as a QB, I want whatever it is you're drinking!
I'll bet you $20 that he ends up with a "shot" at a professional football career.
Maybe you should be more specific. Your disclaimer...."shot" is awfully vague.PapaG wrote:No you don't. Dumb post.GRIZ1STCATS2ND wrote:I have a "shot" at a professional football career.PapaG wrote:I think he's a lock for the CFL, at the very least. May even get an NFL UDFA contract depending on how well he does this season, and also how well he grades out in workouts.msuhunter wrote: If you think Prukop has any chance at a pro career as a QB, I want whatever it is you're drinking!
I'll bet you $20 that he ends up with a "shot" at a professional football career.
He'll have a pro day at Oregon at the very least. Let me know when you work out for pro scouts, mmmkay?GRIZ1STCATS2ND wrote:
Maybe you should be more specific. Your disclaimer...."shot" is awfully vague.
Not criticizing him at all.PapaG wrote:He'll have a pro day at Oregon at the very least. Let me know when you work out for pro scouts, mmmkay?GRIZ1STCATS2ND wrote:
Maybe you should be more specific. Your disclaimer...."shot" is awfully vague.
Your post was ridiculous and unnecessary. Prukop will get a chance to perform before scouts on many occasions this season, and into the spring as well. You'll be here criticizing him from behind your cloak of anonymity.
Please show me where Coach Choate criticized the Bozeman and the MSU fanbase. I'm really puzzled why you'd throw out the "you're what's wrong with MSU football" card.msuhunter wrote:How is giving an honest assessment of his strengths and weaknesses "taking a shot" at him? I would have said the same thing if he were at MSU. If you actually read my posts, you would've noticed I said he's a phenomenal athlete, but doesn't have the skills that translate to the NFL as a QB. Two key problems which you didn't address - accuracy and decision making. Some of you people on here really need to get back to your bubbles and your safe-spaces, and realize that simply because there is criticism it isn't always "taking a shot a someone" ....Cataholic wrote:Why are people so anxious to take a shot at this kid? My comment was that the national exposure will help his chances at a pro career. Somebody takes that as an opportunity criticicize his abilities. Ridiculous.msuhunter wrote:If you think Prukop has any chance at a pro career as a QB, I want whatever it is you're drinking!Cataholic wrote:Pretty interesting. I also noticed that no FCS quarterbacks were on the list. I have to believe his chances of a pro career are improved with the increased national exposure.91catAlum wrote:Prukop listed as the #21 best QB in the country.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/ ... P#image=21
Given that MSUhunter may have experience as a pro scout (sarcasm intended), who would want a 6'2" QB who is a leader, smart and superbly athletic with speed and a strong arm???... Wait a second.... Isn't Russell Wilson only 5'11"?
This is exactly the culture problem Choate spoke of in regards to Bozeman and the MSU fanbase.
It's kind of strange, in the year following the NDSU QB being the #2 overall pick in the NFL draft, that people still try to make it sound like being in the FCS is in some way holding players back from getting drafted. If you are good enough to get drafted, you will get drafted. NFL scouts are good at their jobs and are very thorough -- they don't miss players simply because they aren't playing for the schools with the biggest media followings. The "national exposure" makes players more visible to the press and to fans, but not to the scouts ... the scouts are already aware of FCS players ... especially ones that are getting national FCS honors.Cataholic wrote:Why are people so anxious to take a shot at this kid? My comment was that the national exposure will help his chances at a pro career. Somebody takes that as an opportunity criticicize his abilities. Ridiculous.msuhunter wrote:If you think Prukop has any chance at a pro career as a QB, I want whatever it is you're drinking!Cataholic wrote:Pretty interesting. I also noticed that no FCS quarterbacks were on the list. I have to believe his chances of a pro career are improved with the increased national exposure.91catAlum wrote:Prukop listed as the #21 best QB in the country.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/ ... P#image=21
Given that MSUhunter may have experience as a pro scout (sarcasm intended), who would want a 6'2" QB who is a leader, smart and superbly athletic with speed and a strong arm???... Wait a second.... Isn't Russell Wilson only 5'11"?
Not only was he FCS, but he missed a lot of games due to injury.SonomaCat wrote:It's kind of strange, in the year following the NDSU QB being the #2 overall pick in the NFL draft, that people still try to make it sound like being in the FCS is in some way holding players back from getting drafted. If you are good enough to get drafted, you will get drafted. NFL scouts are good at their jobs and are very thorough -- they don't miss players simply because they aren't playing for the schools with the biggest media followings. The "national exposure" makes players more visible to the press and to fans, but not to the scouts ... the scouts are already aware of FCS players ... especially ones that are getting national FCS honors.Cataholic wrote:Why are people so anxious to take a shot at this kid? My comment was that the national exposure will help his chances at a pro career. Somebody takes that as an opportunity criticicize his abilities. Ridiculous.msuhunter wrote:If you think Prukop has any chance at a pro career as a QB, I want whatever it is you're drinking!Cataholic wrote:Pretty interesting. I also noticed that no FCS quarterbacks were on the list. I have to believe his chances of a pro career are improved with the increased national exposure.91catAlum wrote:Prukop listed as the #21 best QB in the country.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/ ... P#image=21
Given that MSUhunter may have experience as a pro scout (sarcasm intended), who would want a 6'2" QB who is a leader, smart and superbly athletic with speed and a strong arm???... Wait a second.... Isn't Russell Wilson only 5'11"?
You are correct that NFL scouts find prospects at every level. MT Tech had a guy get a free agent deal two years ago. But there are definitely benefits to playing at a higher level. The one knock on Carson Wentz was he did not play against big time competition. Clearly, Dakota is playing at a higher level of competition at Oregon. It can only improve his marketability to scouts playing at Oregon versus in the Big Sky.SonomaCat wrote:It's kind of strange, in the year following the NDSU QB being the #2 overall pick in the NFL draft, that people still try to make it sound like being in the FCS is in some way holding players back from getting drafted. If you are good enough to get drafted, you will get drafted. NFL scouts are good at their jobs and are very thorough -- they don't miss players simply because they aren't playing for the schools with the biggest media followings. The "national exposure" makes players more visible to the press and to fans, but not to the scouts ... the scouts are already aware of FCS players ... especially ones that are getting national FCS honors.Cataholic wrote:Why are people so anxious to take a shot at this kid? My comment was that the national exposure will help his chances at a pro career. Somebody takes that as an opportunity criticicize his abilities. Ridiculous.msuhunter wrote:If you think Prukop has any chance at a pro career as a QB, I want whatever it is you're drinking!Cataholic wrote:Pretty interesting. I also noticed that no FCS quarterbacks were on the list. I have to believe his chances of a pro career are improved with the increased national exposure.91catAlum wrote:Prukop listed as the #21 best QB in the country.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/ ... P#image=21
Given that MSUhunter may have experience as a pro scout (sarcasm intended), who would want a 6'2" QB who is a leader, smart and superbly athletic with speed and a strong arm???... Wait a second.... Isn't Russell Wilson only 5'11"?