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Re: Montana @ Wyoming

Post by LongTimeCatFan » Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:44 am

Games are won and lost in the trenches. UM's OL woes would be hard for any team to overcome. They won't put it together for at least 4 games if at all. UM is going to be forced into running some version of the spread, which is something Delaney seems to be opposed to running in a deliberate manner. He'll have to get over that if he wants success. Otherwise, we'll see a lot of mis direction, smoke and mirrors.

If I was going to set up a scheme on D against UM, I'd stack the box, blitz, and force them to try to hit the deep ball. With Ellis Henderson down, they don't have a burner to accomplish that feat.

Better hope the backup QB can play because JJ will be running for his life like DM did most of his career. I'd put the kid in knee braces and body armor just as a precaution. He's going to take a beating. No two ways about it.

UM's D will hold them in the game for at least a quarter, maybe longer. But eventually, the lack of experience at linebacker will give way to missed assignments out of frustration.

They are UM, so they can put it together. It's just more likely, it'll be a very long season for them.



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Re: Montana @ Wyoming

Post by bigkid » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:21 pm

LongTimeCatFan wrote:Games are won and lost in the trenches. UM's OL woes would be hard for any team to overcome. They won't put it together for at least 4 games if at all. UM is going to be forced into running some version of the spread, which is something Delaney seems to be opposed to running in a deliberate manner. He'll have to get over that if he wants success. Otherwise, we'll see a lot of mis direction, smoke and mirrors.

If I was going to set up a scheme on D against UM, I'd stack the box, blitz, and force them to try to hit the deep ball. With Ellis Henderson down, they don't have a burner to accomplish that feat.

Better hope the backup QB can play because JJ will be running for his life like DM did most of his career. I'd put the kid in knee braces and body armor just as a precaution. He's going to take a beating. No two ways about it.

UM's D will hold them in the game for at least a quarter, maybe longer. But eventually, the lack of experience at linebacker will give way to missed assignments out of frustration.

They are UM, so they can put it together. It's just more likely, it'll be a very long season for them.
Have you seen the Griz practice? I have and they are a pretty damn good football team with a lot of confidence. Your analysis is way off base. Enjoy your subtle Griz smack(all is fair I guess) and let's see how things shake out. Oh I have seen the cats practice twice now so at least I'm a bit more objective in my opinion. The defense is good.



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Re: Montana @ Wyoming

Post by LongTimeCatFan » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:42 pm

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LongTimeCatFan wrote:Games are won and lost in the trenches. UM's OL woes would be hard for any team to overcome. They won't put it together for at least 4 games if at all. UM is going to be forced into running some version of the spread, which is something Delaney seems to be opposed to running in a deliberate manner. He'll have to get over that if he wants success. Otherwise, we'll see a lot of mis direction, smoke and mirrors.

If I was going to set up a scheme on D against UM, I'd stack the box, blitz, and force them to try to hit the deep ball. With Ellis Henderson down, they don't have a burner to accomplish that feat.

Better hope the backup QB can play because JJ will be running for his life like DM did most of his career. I'd put the kid in knee braces and body armor just as a precaution. He's going to take a beating. No two ways about it.

UM's D will hold them in the game for at least a quarter, maybe longer. But eventually, the lack of experience at linebacker will give way to missed assignments out of frustration.

They are UM, so they can put it together. It's just more likely, it'll be a very long season for them.
Have you seen the Griz practice? I have and they are a pretty damn good football team with a lot of confidence. Your analysis is way off base. Enjoy your subtle Griz smack(all is fair I guess) and let's see how things shake out. Oh I have seen the cats practice twice now so at least I'm a bit more objective in my opinion. The defense is good.
We'll see soon enough. That's why they play on Saturdays. No smack intended. It's just a reality that UM's OL will struggle which has a trickle down effect. Should be a fun season.

As for MSU... My expectation is that the tailgating will be a good time. If tge football team wins enough games to reach the playoffs, my expectations will have been exceeded. Too many ??? at MSU right now to get a good gauge of where we'll be. There are lots of "potentially" good players who haven't seen live bullets yet.

But you can't say with a straight face that an inexperienced, undersized, OL will be able to do a decent job with a pro style offense can you? Especially against seasoned veteran DL and LB's.



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Re: Montana @ Wyoming

Post by bigkid » Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:55 pm

I actually think the offensive line will do a good(not outstanding or spectacular)job . But I think they will do well enough to compete. The defensive line shows no mercy and have made them a better unit. Saturday will be an interesting day for both msu's and Griz offenses. I have no doubt both defenses are sound.



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Post by FTG06' » Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:37 pm

bigkid wrote:
LongTimeCatFan wrote:Games are won and lost in the trenches. UM's OL woes would be hard for any team to overcome. They won't put it together for at least 4 games if at all. UM is going to be forced into running some version of the spread, which is something Delaney seems to be opposed to running in a deliberate manner. He'll have to get over that if he wants success. Otherwise, we'll see a lot of mis direction, smoke and mirrors.

If I was going to set up a scheme on D against UM, I'd stack the box, blitz, and force them to try to hit the deep ball. With Ellis Henderson down, they don't have a burner to accomplish that feat.

Better hope the backup QB can play because JJ will be running for his life like DM did most of his career. I'd put the kid in knee braces and body armor just as a precaution. He's going to take a beating. No two ways about it.

UM's D will hold them in the game for at least a quarter, maybe longer. But eventually, the lack of experience at linebacker will give way to missed assignments out of frustration.

They are UM, so they can put it together. It's just more likely, it'll be a very long season for them.
Have you seen the Griz practice? I have and they are a pretty damn good football team with a lot of confidence. Your analysis is way off base. Enjoy your subtle Griz smack(all is fair I guess) and let's see how things shake out. Oh I have seen the cats practice twice now so at least I'm a bit more objective in my opinion. The defense is good.
That's practice bud. You learn a lot more by watching them play on Saturday.


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Re: Montana @ Wyoming

Post by CARDIAC_CATS » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:52 am

FTG06' wrote:
bigkid wrote:
LongTimeCatFan wrote:Games are won and lost in the trenches. UM's OL woes would be hard for any team to overcome. They won't put it together for at least 4 games if at all. UM is going to be forced into running some version of the spread, which is something Delaney seems to be opposed to running in a deliberate manner. He'll have to get over that if he wants success. Otherwise, we'll see a lot of mis direction, smoke and mirrors.

If I was going to set up a scheme on D against UM, I'd stack the box, blitz, and force them to try to hit the deep ball. With Ellis Henderson down, they don't have a burner to accomplish that feat.

Better hope the backup QB can play because JJ will be running for his life like DM did most of his career. I'd put the kid in knee braces and body armor just as a precaution. He's going to take a beating. No two ways about it.

UM's D will hold them in the game for at least a quarter, maybe longer. But eventually, the lack of experience at linebacker will give way to missed assignments out of frustration.

They are UM, so they can put it together. It's just more likely, it'll be a very long season for them.
Have you seen the Griz practice? I have and they are a pretty damn good football team with a lot of confidence. Your analysis is way off base. Enjoy your subtle Griz smack(all is fair I guess) and let's see how things shake out. Oh I have seen the cats practice twice now so at least I'm a bit more objective in my opinion. The defense is good.
That's practice bud. You learn a lot more by watching them play on Saturday.

Yeah, practice is a lot different. The offense is not scheming against the weaknesses of the D as much as a real game. I agree UM's D will hold them in the game early, but if UM's OL doesn't play well the D will be on the field a lot and that fast D will wear down and then Bohls hat on hat type offense will spring the big plays like they did at NDSU.


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Re: Montana @ Wyoming

Post by Teton Cat » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:32 pm

bigkid wrote:
LongTimeCatFan wrote:Games are won and lost in the trenches. UM's OL woes would be hard for any team to overcome. They won't put it together for at least 4 games if at all. UM is going to be forced into running some version of the spread, which is something Delaney seems to be opposed to running in a deliberate manner. He'll have to get over that if he wants success. Otherwise, we'll see a lot of mis direction, smoke and mirrors.

If I was going to set up a scheme on D against UM, I'd stack the box, blitz, and force them to try to hit the deep ball. With Ellis Henderson down, they don't have a burner to accomplish that feat.

Better hope the backup QB can play because JJ will be running for his life like DM did most of his career. I'd put the kid in knee braces and body armor just as a precaution. He's going to take a beating. No two ways about it.

UM's D will hold them in the game for at least a quarter, maybe longer. But eventually, the lack of experience at linebacker will give way to missed assignments out of frustration.

They are UM, so they can put it together. It's just more likely, it'll be a very long season for them.
Have you seen the Griz practice? I have and they are a pretty damn good football team with a lot of confidence. Your analysis is way off base. Enjoy your subtle Griz smack(all is fair I guess) and let's see how things shake out. Oh I have seen the cats practice twice now so at least I'm a bit more objective in my opinion. The defense is good.
For a Griz troll you don't mention the fact that you send your kid to MSU.....ohhhhh......the Irony :mrgreen:



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Re: Montana @ Wyoming

Post by Bobcat Sig » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:51 am

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Re: Montana @ Wyoming

Post by bigkid » Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:58 pm

Teton Cat wrote:
bigkid wrote:
LongTimeCatFan wrote:Games are won and lost in the trenches. UM's OL woes would be hard for any team to overcome. They won't put it together for at least 4 games if at all. UM is going to be forced into running some version of the spread, which is something Delaney seems to be opposed to running in a deliberate manner. He'll have to get over that if he wants success. Otherwise, we'll see a lot of mis direction, smoke and mirrors.

If I was going to set up a scheme on D against UM, I'd stack the box, blitz, and force them to try to hit the deep ball. With Ellis Henderson down, they don't have a burner to accomplish that feat.

Better hope the backup QB can play because JJ will be running for his life like DM did most of his career. I'd put the kid in knee braces and body armor just as a precaution. He's going to take a beating. No two ways about it.

UM's D will hold them in the game for at least a quarter, maybe longer. But eventually, the lack of experience at linebacker will give way to missed assignments out of frustration.

They are UM, so they can put it together. It's just more likely, it'll be a very long season for them.
Have you seen the Griz practice? I have and they are a pretty damn good football team with a lot of confidence. Your analysis is way off base. Enjoy your subtle Griz smack(all is fair I guess) and let's see how things shake out. Oh I have seen the cats practice twice now so at least I'm a bit more objective in my opinion. The defense is good.
For a Griz troll you don't mention the fact that you send your kid to MSU.....ohhhhh......the Irony :mrgreen:
First of all I didn't send my kid anywhere. She chose to study there of her own free will and I supported her decision. To date it has been a good decision as she is excelling and growing into a wonderful young lady. Visiting allows me to watch the cats practice so I'm more informed then a lot on this board. IMO the defense is good. The question I would have is can the offense get the ball in the end zone enough to win games? I'm not saying they can't but it seems like a legitimate question. I have the same question with Montana. Can the o-line perform at a high enough level to allow the offense to work. You know that I wish the season would get here before craziness sets in stuff. By the way Prukop was the right choice.



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Re: Montana @ Wyoming

Post by 09griz » Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:45 pm

Henderson will see playing time on Saturday :yes:
Sounds like Mick is keeping Wyo guessing...I like it



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Post by wbtfg » Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:21 pm

09griz wrote:Henderson will see playing time on Saturday :yes:
Sounds like Mick is keeping Wyo guessing...I like it
Does he have enough practices in to play? I thought he hadn't practiced at all this summer/fall



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Re: Montana @ Wyoming

Post by TomCat88 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:24 pm

@billspeltz: Coach Delaney says Ellis Henderson may see a little action Saturday.


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TomCat88 wrote:@billspeltz: Coach Delaney says Ellis Henderson may see a little action Saturday.
Wonder if he'll really play or if that's some gamesmanship from Delaney to keep Wyoming guessing



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Post by TomCat88 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:36 pm

wbtfg wrote:
TomCat88 wrote:@billspeltz: Coach Delaney says Ellis Henderson may see a little action Saturday.
Wonder if he'll really play or if that's some gamesmanship from Delaney to keep Wyoming guessing
If I was him and I thought Henderson could play a little I wouldn't tell anyone since no one thinks he is at this point. Keep him a secret weapon that way.


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Post by catatac » Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:39 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
wbtfg wrote:
TomCat88 wrote:@billspeltz: Coach Delaney says Ellis Henderson may see a little action Saturday.
Wonder if he'll really play or if that's some gamesmanship from Delaney to keep Wyoming guessing
If I was him and I thought Henderson could play a little I wouldn't tell anyone since no one thinks he is at this point. Keep him a secret weapon that way.
So I wonder if it really matters. If you are talking about say, whether the QB is going to be JJ versus Brady Gustafson, then I could see how a team might actually prepare differently, but for a WR? It's not like they are going to prepare different schemes or start different personnel due to a WR? Maybe I'm wrong, somebody can correct me.


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Re: Montana @ Wyoming

Post by LongTimeCatFan » Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:48 pm

catatac wrote:
TomCat88 wrote:
wbtfg wrote:
TomCat88 wrote:@billspeltz: Coach Delaney says Ellis Henderson may see a little action Saturday.
Wonder if he'll really play or if that's some gamesmanship from Delaney to keep Wyoming guessing
If I was him and I thought Henderson could play a little I wouldn't tell anyone since no one thinks he is at this point. Keep him a secret weapon that way.
So I wonder if it really matters. If you are talking about say, whether the QB is going to be JJ versus Brady Gustafson, then I could see how a team might actually prepare differently, but for a WR? It's not like they are going to prepare different schemes or start different personnel due to a WR? Maybe I'm wrong, somebody can correct me.
Without Henderson, stack the box with 8 or 9. With him... Ya can't do that.



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Post by catatac » Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:20 pm

I don't know about that... they have other receivers that are pretty good too. In fact, how healthy can he be after dealing with this virus and not practicing for so long? I still maintain that with or without him... the outcome will all depend on if their O line can get any kind of running game going.


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Post by ilovethecats » Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:45 pm

bigkid wrote:
First of all I didn't send my kid anywhere. She chose to study there of her own free will and I supported her decision.
smart kid! =D^



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Post by bigkid » Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:46 pm

ilovethecats wrote:
bigkid wrote:
First of all I didn't send my kid anywhere. She chose to study there of her own free will and I supported her decision.
smart kid! =D^
Indeed and she loves it :D So I can get this out of the way my son will attend msu next fall and study electrical engineering ](*,)



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Post by ilovethecats » Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:49 pm

bigkid wrote:
ilovethecats wrote:
bigkid wrote:
First of all I didn't send my kid anywhere. She chose to study there of her own free will and I supported her decision.
smart kid! =D^
Indeed and she loves it :D So I can get this out of the way my son will attend msu next fall and study electrical engineering ](*,)
=D^ =D^ =D^

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