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Re: Jordan Johnson Expelled [RUMOR]

Post by 91catAlum » Sat May 26, 2012 10:47 am

It seems strange that he would be expelled for a rape accusation. Think about the precedent that would set.
Is it possible he was expelled for a different reason?

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Re: Jordan Johnson Expelled [RUMOR]

Post by Common Cat » Sat May 26, 2012 10:57 am

My thoughts are to the griz program. I know as a cat we can find joy in griz misery, but all of this transcends football and is truly unfortunate.


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Re: Jordan Johnson Expelled [RUMOR]

Post by bobcat99 » Sat May 26, 2012 11:16 am

codecat wrote:
Sportin' Life wrote:
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TomCat88 wrote:This would be a good moment to show some compassion toward the entire UM community.
Agreed....
We'll still kick your asses with one hand tied behind our non-rapist backs. :D
Though I'd agree with you Tom, it is not something that can be legislated. I would also not disagree with anyone who chose to not show compassion at this time because there are constant reminders like this one from "Sportin' Life".
When I read Sportin's post, I just figured he was having a little fun with some good natured smack talk. Don't take things so seriously.



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Re: Jordan Johnson Expelled [RUMOR]

Post by gtapp » Sat May 26, 2012 11:24 am

91catAlum wrote:It seems strange that he would be expelled for a rape accusation. Think about the precedent that would set.
Is it possible he was expelled for a different reason?

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I agree. All I have heard on this site is that there is no evidence and it was an angry girl friend seeking revenge. If that is not the case then fine, expell him. But if it turns out to be true where do you go from there. Anyone can make up any acqusation they want and a player loses his scholarship?


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Re: Jordan Johnson Expelled [RUMOR]

Post by CPACAT » Sat May 26, 2012 11:40 am

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91catAlum wrote:It seems strange that he would be expelled for a rape accusation. Think about the precedent that would set.
Is it possible he was expelled for a different reason?

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I agree. All I have heard on this site is that there is no evidence and it was an angry girl friend seeking revenge. If that is not the case then fine, expell him. But if it turns out to be true where do you go from there. Anyone can make up any acqusation they want and a player loses his scholarship?

I will guarantee you that there is more to it than just an accusation. There is more information that what shows up in the paper or on egriz or Bobcat Nation.
I have heard that he is not the individual of high moral fiber that some would like to believe. It goes beyond the accusation that has been made public in the papers. I would guess that most everyone will never know the full story.


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Re: Jordan Johnson Expelled [RUMOR]

Post by Cat Grad » Sat May 26, 2012 11:47 am

Dang, I feel such an outpouring of sympathy for the arse hats that I pledge to not capitalize ftg, esg-gcg for at least a week nor respond to one of their egotistical "fans" with something to the effect of: "Guess your shiet does stink afterall..." What goes around, comes around.



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Re: Jordan Johnson Expelled [RUMOR]

Post by DaCats21 » Sat May 26, 2012 12:01 pm

What are the chances that Jim Foley still has his job once school resumes in the fall?



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Re: Jordan Johnson Expelled [RUMOR]

Post by AlphaGriz1 » Sat May 26, 2012 12:18 pm

DaCats21 wrote:What are the chances that Jim Foley still has his job once school resumes in the fall?
I hope absolute fu*king ZERO!


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Re: Jordan Johnson Expelled [RUMOR]

Post by CPACAT » Sat May 26, 2012 1:59 pm

DaCats21 wrote:What are the chances that Jim Foley still has his job once school resumes in the fall?

I didn't think he would make through this last week. I would really be surprised if he is there the end of next week.


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Re: Jordan Johnson Expelled [RUMOR]

Post by DicTater » Sat May 26, 2012 2:28 pm

A number of things to remember here, in fairness to Jordan Johnson. He has still never been charged with any crime, much less convicted. The student conduct hearings are nothing but a kangaroo court. A student has no right to be represented by an attorney, while the "prosecution" is run by George Couture, the dean of Students. Couture, by he way is a total dick. There is no ability for the accused to subpoena witnesses, so, Johnson couldn't force the testimony of any of the investigating officers. There is no presumption of innocence. The standard of proof is not beyond a reasonable doubt. The so called jury is not a jury at all, but are picked by the administration. The rules of evidence are not used, so any amount of hearsay and rumor can come in.

In short, these hearings are a joke, with no due process whatsoever. There is a very real possibility that JJ is being made a scapegoat here by the administration so it can look like it's doing something.



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Re: Jordan Johnson Expelled [RUMOR]

Post by TomCat88 » Sat May 26, 2012 2:40 pm

Dictater: if so, then there's an even bigger problem.


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Re: Jordan Johnson Expelled [RUMOR]

Post by CPACAT » Sat May 26, 2012 3:36 pm

Paranoia. Put on your tin foil hat.


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Re: Jordan Johnson Expelled [RUMOR]

Post by HelenaCat95 » Sat May 26, 2012 3:41 pm

Not saying it's true or not (I have no way of knowing), I just find it odd that a big story like this doesn't have anything more official than two tweets from Rahac and Neighbor (no offense CPACAT).
Maybe all the sports journalists in Montana are still digging in to it......or digging out of State Track in Butte.

But this is a pretty big story if true.



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Re: Jordan Johnson Expelled [RUMOR]

Post by SaxCat » Sat May 26, 2012 3:44 pm

HelenaCat95 wrote:Not saying it's true or not (I have no way of knowing), I just find it odd that a big story like this doesn't have anything more official than two tweets from Rahac and Neighbor (no offense CPACAT).
Maybe all the sports journalists in Montana are still digging in to it......or digging out of State Track in Butte.

But this is a pretty big story if true.
The reporters are all waiting to use it for the big sunday headlines/ waiting for official comment on Monday



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Re: Jordan Johnson Expelled [RUMOR]

Post by Rich K » Sat May 26, 2012 3:49 pm

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HelenaCat95 wrote:Not saying it's true or not (I have no way of knowing), I just find it odd that a big story like this doesn't have anything more official than two tweets from Rahac and Neighbor (no offense CPACAT).
Maybe all the sports journalists in Montana are still digging in to it......or digging out of State Track in Butte.

But this is a pretty big story if true.
The reporters are all waiting to use it for the big sunday headlines/ waiting for official comment on Monday
The conspiracy freak side of me wants to believe that this news was released at the beginning of a long weekend on purpose. If the weather had been a bit nicer we'd all be out fishing and camping. If you have to release information, at least release it when the time is to your favor. It's hard for anybody to call Micheal Savage on a saturday.... ;)


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Re: Jordan Johnson Expelled [RUMOR]

Post by HelenaCat95 » Sat May 26, 2012 3:55 pm

SaxCat wrote:
HelenaCat95 wrote:Not saying it's true or not (I have no way of knowing), I just find it odd that a big story like this doesn't have anything more official than two tweets from Rahac and Neighbor (no offense CPACAT).
Maybe all the sports journalists in Montana are still digging in to it......or digging out of State Track in Butte.

But this is a pretty big story if true.
The reporters are all waiting to use it for the big sunday headlines/ waiting for official comment on Monday
I disagree. Reporters are always waiting to scoop everyone else....Now they may put it up with a "Coming tomorrow, more details" tag (or something like that), but nothing on the Breaking News portion of any of the MT news sites is odd.
Like I said, I'm not saying it's true or not....just odd tome.
Maybe someone with some journalist experience like TomCat could chime in.



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Re: Jordan Johnson Expelled

Post by autocat » Sat May 26, 2012 6:50 pm

The "yellow" journalist in the state are doing some investigating, where have they been the last 2-3 years?



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Re: Jordan Johnson Expelled

Post by CPACAT » Sat May 26, 2012 8:46 pm

My guess is that there is no one around willing or able to confirm anything concrete is why you have not seen much on it. I doubt um is going to do a press release on it. I would imagine they try and keep stuff like this internal as much as possible.


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Re: Jordan Johnson Expelled

Post by LongTimeCatFan » Sat May 26, 2012 9:03 pm

Kayla Anderson tweeted that President Engstrom needs to confirm the board's decision to expel and that confirmation has yet to take place. Once that happens, Im sure the news will be all over it.

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Re: Jordan Johnson Expelled

Post by TomCat88 » Sat May 26, 2012 9:11 pm

LongTimeCatFan wrote:Kayla Anderson tweeted that President Engstrom needs to confirm the board's decision to expel and that confirmation has yet to take place. Once that happens, Im sure the news will be all over it.

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UM will almost certainly put out a press release on it, if Engstrom confirms the decision. Colorado State recently expelled three football players and the school went public with the information pronto. UM would open itself up to a lot of criticism if it tried to stonewall on this.


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