…….or “if” the Griz had won the 2 games they lost, they’d likely be the number 1 team in the bracket.GoCats18 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:31 pmWhat’s funny is that if UW beats UM like they should have, SUU makes that field goal, and the Cats actually show up to play……UM might not even be in the playoffs. I see this game being close for the first half, but JMU comes out the second and puts them away. 45-21
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Ifs and buts were candy and nuts you might have a pair…..GRIZFNZ wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:36 pm…….or “if” the Griz had won the 2 games they lost, they’d likely be the number 1 team in the bracket.GoCats18 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:31 pmWhat’s funny is that if UW beats UM like they should have, SUU makes that field goal, and the Cats actually show up to play……UM might not even be in the playoffs. I see this game being close for the first half, but JMU comes out the second and puts them away. 45-21
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Montana's wins:
Dixie St 1-10
Western Illinois 2-9
Cal Poly 2-9
Idaho 4-7
Southern Utah 1-10
No Colorado 3-8
No Arizona 5-6
Eastern Washington (split with them during the year, each winning at home.
They should of never beat us this year.
They haven't played anyone to even be close to be a proven. I say JM schools them big time.
Dixie St 1-10
Western Illinois 2-9
Cal Poly 2-9
Idaho 4-7
Southern Utah 1-10
No Colorado 3-8
No Arizona 5-6
Eastern Washington (split with them during the year, each winning at home.
They should of never beat us this year.
They haven't played anyone to even be close to be a proven. I say JM schools them big time.
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The Griz defense gave up over 600 yards to EWU and had what, 360 yards of offense? That game was an anomaly.Camo_Cat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:16 pmThis is gonna be a great game. The griz are playing much better as of late. If this game were a month ago, I would pick JMU by three scores. But the griz have found their mo-jo. I still think JMU wins, but's it gonna be in a barn-burner.
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It was over 600 yards if I remember right. JM beat Weber easily scrubs were in the 4th so score was loser. I could be way off base but I don't see this to be a barn burner but I could be wrong. If JM plays like they have all year it will be over at half time.PapaG wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:10 pmThe Griz defense gave up over 600 yards to EWU and had what, 360 yards of offense? That game was an anomaly.Camo_Cat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:16 pmThis is gonna be a great game. The griz are playing much better as of late. If this game were a month ago, I would pick JMU by three scores. But the griz have found their mo-jo. I still think JMU wins, but's it gonna be in a barn-burner.
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I know everyone hates Hauck, but there’s no denying that he can coach special teams. The past two games were ST wins for them. They are to special teams what EWU is to offense.mule wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:36 pmIt was over 600 yards if I remember right. JM ate EW alive and beat Weber easily. I could be way off base but I don't see this to be a barn burner but I could be wrong. If JM plays like they have all year it will be over at half time.PapaG wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:10 pmThe Griz defense gave up over 600 yards to EWU and had what, 360 yards of offense? That game was an anomaly.Camo_Cat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:16 pmThis is gonna be a great game. The griz are playing much better as of late. If this game were a month ago, I would pick JMU by three scores. But the griz have found their mo-jo. I still think JMU wins, but's it gonna be in a barn-burner.
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What’s funny is all the posters saying JMU kicks their ass are the same posters who said EWU would do the same the week prior.
JMU is favored to win and should do so at home but it won’t be a blowout. I won’t be surprised to see a Griz win as they seem to be peaking.
JMU is favored to win and should do so at home but it won’t be a blowout. I won’t be surprised to see a Griz win as they seem to be peaking.
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The only reason that UM won their last two games was because of having such a weak schedule. The last two wins were the only wins against teams with a winning record. I like the way you think though. Kind of like the we beat this team and they beat this team……and so that means we could beat Bama
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I agree with this logic. Near wins or losses are just that. And they happened. No reason to speculate any further.GRIZFNZ wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:36 pm…….or “if” the Griz had won the 2 games they lost, they’d likely be the number 1 team in the bracket.GoCats18 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:31 pmWhat’s funny is that if UW beats UM like they should have, SUU makes that field goal, and the Cats actually show up to play……UM might not even be in the playoffs. I see this game being close for the first half, but JMU comes out the second and puts them away. 45-21
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Agreed, with how well the Gris' special teams and defensive units are playing right now it won't be a blowout unless their offense is a total disaster and gives away a bunch of turnovers or something. I think JMU wins by one or two scores but won't be surprised one bit if it goes the other way.ibleedblue wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:43 pmWhat’s funny is all the posters saying JMU kicks their ass are the same posters who said EWU would do the same the week prior.
JMU is favored to win and should do so at home but it won’t be a blowout. I won’t be surprised to see a Griz win as they seem to be peaking.
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I know it is really hard for you gris fans to keep up, but if you had won those 2 games, SHSU would still be seeded #1 and gris would be #2. Right or wrong that is the truth.GRIZFNZ wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:36 pm…….or “if” the Griz had won the 2 games they lost, they’d likely be the number 1 team in the bracket.GoCats18 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:31 pmWhat’s funny is that if UW beats UM like they should have, SUU makes that field goal, and the Cats actually show up to play……UM might not even be in the playoffs. I see this game being close for the first half, but JMU comes out the second and puts them away. 45-21
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What’s even funnier is people thinking um is going to keep scoring 20-25 points off D and ST plays every week just because they did it twice in a row. Luck always runs out.MSU01 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:57 amAgreed, with how well the Gris' special teams and defensive units are playing right now it won't be a blowout unless their offense is a total disaster and gives away a bunch of turnovers or something. I think JMU wins by one or two scores but won't be surprised one bit if it goes the other way.ibleedblue wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:43 pmWhat’s funny is all the posters saying JMU kicks their ass are the same posters who said EWU would do the same the week prior.
JMU is favored to win and should do so at home but it won’t be a blowout. I won’t be surprised to see a Griz win as they seem to be peaking.
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He’s a prick, but he’s a good coach.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:43 pmI know everyone hates Hauck, but there’s no denying that he can coach special teams. The past two games were ST wins for them. They are to special teams what EWU is to offense.mule wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:36 pmIt was over 600 yards if I remember right. JM ate EW alive and beat Weber easily. I could be way off base but I don't see this to be a barn burner but I could be wrong. If JM plays like they have all year it will be over at half time.PapaG wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:10 pmThe Griz defense gave up over 600 yards to EWU and had what, 360 yards of offense? That game was an anomaly.Camo_Cat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:16 pmThis is gonna be a great game. The griz are playing much better as of late. If this game were a month ago, I would pick JMU by three scores. But the griz have found their mo-jo. I still think JMU wins, but's it gonna be in a barn-burner.
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With all due respect, it’s hard to have a lot of faith in your predictions. Here are some of your recent ones that weren’t close, including their stadium crowd. I’m assuming you just hate the Gris that much and that’s okay, but it’s definitely affecting your best guesses or predictions:iaafan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:11 amWhat’s even funnier is people thinking um is going to keep scoring 20-25 points off D and ST plays every week just because they did it twice in a row. Luck always runs out.MSU01 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:57 amAgreed, with how well the Gris' special teams and defensive units are playing right now it won't be a blowout unless their offense is a total disaster and gives away a bunch of turnovers or something. I think JMU wins by one or two scores but won't be surprised one bit if it goes the other way.ibleedblue wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:43 pmWhat’s funny is all the posters saying JMU kicks their ass are the same posters who said EWU would do the same the week prior.
JMU is favored to win and should do so at home but it won’t be a blowout. I won’t be surprised to see a Griz win as they seem to be peaking.
“They have a huge advantage for home playoff games with the crowd, but there won't be as many people there on Friday night. A lot of people stay away from night games because they don't want to get a motel. It'll be loud and it's an advantage, but EWU is a conference team and they've seen it. If it was UNI, it'd be all over. EWU is still a very good offense. MSU and WSU did a good job against them, and I hear a lot of people saying UNI did, too, but if you watch that game EWU left a lot of points on the field. They could've just as easily won 36-9. At home with a lot of crowd noise I expect UM to hold EWU down.
Final: EWU 27, UM 10”
“EWU will pick up right where they left off. Once they figured out UM's defense, they blew them out. Unless UM's doing something a lot different, I don't see EWU scoring under 40.
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I agree that the rate at which UM is scoring off their defense and STs the past two games is something that they'll have a hard time keeping up the pace, but I'm willing to bet that UM scores something on a return of some sort or sets up a score. I guess that second part isn't very bold, but I'm fairly certain UM makes some big plays on STs and D. Question is: how many? And: will it be enough?iaafan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:11 amWhat’s even funnier is people thinking um is going to keep scoring 20-25 points off D and ST plays every week just because they did it twice in a row. Luck always runs out.MSU01 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:57 amAgreed, with how well the Gris' special teams and defensive units are playing right now it won't be a blowout unless their offense is a total disaster and gives away a bunch of turnovers or something. I think JMU wins by one or two scores but won't be surprised one bit if it goes the other way.ibleedblue wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:43 pmWhat’s funny is all the posters saying JMU kicks their ass are the same posters who said EWU would do the same the week prior.
JMU is favored to win and should do so at home but it won’t be a blowout. I won’t be surprised to see a Griz win as they seem to be peaking.
The game isn't in WGS and the opponent is one of the teams I consider in the top tier of the FCS (NDSU, SHSU, SDSU and JMU). As of right now there's a sizeable gap between those four and everyone else. We'll see come Saturday, but all four of those teams are favored. There's usually one upset at this stage. I would rank the likelihood of an upset in this order: Nova over SDSU, MSU over SHSU, UM over JMU and ETSU over NDSU. While there may be an upset, I'm also willing to bet that at least two of the games are lopsided.
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Well, EWU scored 41, so not far off. I said I don't see them scoring under 40 and that was correct. My mistake was not foreseeing UM scoring a bunch of points off STs and defense. I thought my rationale for a small crowd was reasonable. Thinking was that people wouldn't travel for a Friday night game. That's understandable, right? Couple that with UM only drawing 16,000 last year for a first-round game.ibleedblue wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:01 pmWith all due respect, it’s hard to have a lot of faith in your predictions. Here are some of your recent ones that weren’t close, including their stadium crowd. I’m assuming you just hate the Gris that much and that’s okay, but it’s definitely affecting your best guesses or predictions:iaafan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:11 amWhat’s even funnier is people thinking um is going to keep scoring 20-25 points off D and ST plays every week just because they did it twice in a row. Luck always runs out.MSU01 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:57 amAgreed, with how well the Gris' special teams and defensive units are playing right now it won't be a blowout unless their offense is a total disaster and gives away a bunch of turnovers or something. I think JMU wins by one or two scores but won't be surprised one bit if it goes the other way.ibleedblue wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:43 pmWhat’s funny is all the posters saying JMU kicks their ass are the same posters who said EWU would do the same the week prior.
JMU is favored to win and should do so at home but it won’t be a blowout. I won’t be surprised to see a Griz win as they seem to be peaking.
“They have a huge advantage for home playoff games with the crowd, but there won't be as many people there on Friday night. A lot of people stay away from night games because they don't want to get a motel. It'll be loud and it's an advantage, but EWU is a conference team and they've seen it. If it was UNI, it'd be all over. EWU is still a very good offense. MSU and WSU did a good job against them, and I hear a lot of people saying UNI did, too, but if you watch that game EWU left a lot of points on the field. They could've just as easily won 36-9. At home with a lot of crowd noise I expect UM to hold EWU down.
Final: EWU 27, UM 10”
“EWU will pick up right where they left off. Once they figured out UM's defense, they blew them out. Unless UM's doing something a lot different, I don't see EWU scoring under 40.
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I don't think UM will score or set up scores like they have been the past two weeks. I mean that's reasonable, right? It's bound to end at some point. If they don't get that they don't win. The MSU game would've been close and could've gone either was without it, but I don't think they beat EWU without the ST stuff. It's how they're winning, and I don't think it's gonna continue this week on the road vs a perennial power.
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I agree with you and I don't.iaafan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:45 pmWell, EWU scored 41, so not far off. I said I don't see them scoring under 40 and that was correct. My mistake was not foreseeing UM scoring a bunch of points off STs and defense. I thought my rationale for a small crowd was reasonable. Thinking was that people wouldn't travel for a Friday night game. That's understandable, right? Couple that with UM only drawing 16,000 last year for a first-round game.ibleedblue wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:01 pmWith all due respect, it’s hard to have a lot of faith in your predictions. Here are some of your recent ones that weren’t close, including their stadium crowd. I’m assuming you just hate the Gris that much and that’s okay, but it’s definitely affecting your best guesses or predictions:iaafan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:11 amWhat’s even funnier is people thinking um is going to keep scoring 20-25 points off D and ST plays every week just because they did it twice in a row. Luck always runs out.MSU01 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:57 amAgreed, with how well the Gris' special teams and defensive units are playing right now it won't be a blowout unless their offense is a total disaster and gives away a bunch of turnovers or something. I think JMU wins by one or two scores but won't be surprised one bit if it goes the other way.ibleedblue wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:43 pmWhat’s funny is all the posters saying JMU kicks their ass are the same posters who said EWU would do the same the week prior.
JMU is favored to win and should do so at home but it won’t be a blowout. I won’t be surprised to see a Griz win as they seem to be peaking.
“They have a huge advantage for home playoff games with the crowd, but there won't be as many people there on Friday night. A lot of people stay away from night games because they don't want to get a motel. It'll be loud and it's an advantage, but EWU is a conference team and they've seen it. If it was UNI, it'd be all over. EWU is still a very good offense. MSU and WSU did a good job against them, and I hear a lot of people saying UNI did, too, but if you watch that game EWU left a lot of points on the field. They could've just as easily won 36-9. At home with a lot of crowd noise I expect UM to hold EWU down.
Final: EWU 27, UM 10”
“EWU will pick up right where they left off. Once they figured out UM's defense, they blew them out. Unless UM's doing something a lot different, I don't see EWU scoring under 40.
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I don't think UM will score or set up scores like they have been the past two weeks. I mean that's reasonable, right? It's bound to end at some point. If they don't get that they don't win. The MSU game would've been close and could've gone either was without it, but I don't think they beat EWU without the ST stuff. It's how they're winning, and I don't think it's gonna continue this week on the road vs a perennial power.
The Gris need special teams to be elite to win games. Their defense is awesome and their offense mediocre. That has been the story all season long. If they score on special teams or even get great field position because of special teams I think they win this game.
Where we disagree is whether or not this special teams play has to stop at some point. I don't look at special teams that way. I look at that unit like I do offense and defense. I don't think it's just a given that a great offense just has to eventually stop scoring points. I don't think an elite defense like the Cats is just destined to give up a ton of points. And I don't see any reason an elite unit like the Gris have coached by one of the best can't keep it going. It's not like their special teams plays are lucky. They are coached up and prepared to make those plays, just like all of the guys on offense and defense.
I don't see any reason to think the Gris special teams can't either score tomorrow night or give their offense the ball in great scoring position. If they do that I think they win. If that unit fails to do that tomorrow, for the first time in a long time; I think they lose.
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I think that is a very fair assessment and that is how I look at it as well. Special-teams is a huge part of the game but often overlooked.ilovethecats wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:51 pmI agree with you and I don't.iaafan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:45 pmWell, EWU scored 41, so not far off. I said I don't see them scoring under 40 and that was correct. My mistake was not foreseeing UM scoring a bunch of points off STs and defense. I thought my rationale for a small crowd was reasonable. Thinking was that people wouldn't travel for a Friday night game. That's understandable, right? Couple that with UM only drawing 16,000 last year for a first-round game.ibleedblue wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:01 pmWith all due respect, it’s hard to have a lot of faith in your predictions. Here are some of your recent ones that weren’t close, including their stadium crowd. I’m assuming you just hate the Gris that much and that’s okay, but it’s definitely affecting your best guesses or predictions:iaafan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:11 amWhat’s even funnier is people thinking um is going to keep scoring 20-25 points off D and ST plays every week just because they did it twice in a row. Luck always runs out.MSU01 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:57 amAgreed, with how well the Gris' special teams and defensive units are playing right now it won't be a blowout unless their offense is a total disaster and gives away a bunch of turnovers or something. I think JMU wins by one or two scores but won't be surprised one bit if it goes the other way.ibleedblue wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:43 pmWhat’s funny is all the posters saying JMU kicks their ass are the same posters who said EWU would do the same the week prior.
JMU is favored to win and should do so at home but it won’t be a blowout. I won’t be surprised to see a Griz win as they seem to be peaking.
“They have a huge advantage for home playoff games with the crowd, but there won't be as many people there on Friday night. A lot of people stay away from night games because they don't want to get a motel. It'll be loud and it's an advantage, but EWU is a conference team and they've seen it. If it was UNI, it'd be all over. EWU is still a very good offense. MSU and WSU did a good job against them, and I hear a lot of people saying UNI did, too, but if you watch that game EWU left a lot of points on the field. They could've just as easily won 36-9. At home with a lot of crowd noise I expect UM to hold EWU down.
Final: EWU 27, UM 10”
“EWU will pick up right where they left off. Once they figured out UM's defense, they blew them out. Unless UM's doing something a lot different, I don't see EWU scoring under 40.
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I don't think UM will score or set up scores like they have been the past two weeks. I mean that's reasonable, right? It's bound to end at some point. If they don't get that they don't win. The MSU game would've been close and could've gone either was without it, but I don't think they beat EWU without the ST stuff. It's how they're winning, and I don't think it's gonna continue this week on the road vs a perennial power.
The Gris need special teams to be elite to win games. Their defense is awesome and their offense mediocre. That has been the story all season long. If they score on special teams or even get great field position because of special teams I think they win this game.
Where we disagree is whether or not this special teams play has to stop at some point. I don't look at special teams that way. I look at that unit like I do offense and defense. I don't think it's just a given that a great offense just has to eventually stop scoring points. I don't think an elite defense like the Cats is just destined to give up a ton of points. And I don't see any reason an elite unit like the Gris have coached by one of the best can't keep it going. It's not like their special teams plays are lucky. They are coached up and prepared to make those plays, just like all of the guys on offense and defense.
I don't see any reason to think the Gris special teams can't either score tomorrow night or give their offense the ball in great scoring position. If they do that I think they win. If that unit fails to do that tomorrow, for the first time in a long time; I think they lose.