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Re: Vernon Adams Jr. did not graduate

Post by LongTimeCatFan » Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:47 pm

Cat Grad wrote:There appears to be several posters who actually are taking a perverted sense of joy in the perceived shortcomings academically of one of the most dynamic and exciting young men I've had the priviledge of watching perform at MSU. And I believe he was hurt in one of the games I watched him almost single handedly beat our Cats. I hope he graduates, earns the starting position and wins the Heisman after getting snubbed two years in a row by the podunk level voters.
I'm sorry, I just can't stand the kid. Don't get me wrong, he's a great player, but the hubris is a bit much and the priorities in his personal life seem to be askew. So when a cocky little punk like him can't even pass a freaken "math" class (he got an incomplete) from Eastern freaken Washington (one of the least employable educations in the conference), yeah, it's funny, especially when you consider the stakes of passing said "math" class.



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Re: Vernon Adams Jr. did not graduate

Post by Cataholic » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:40 pm

PapaG wrote:There is a big difference between "did not graduate" and "is yet to graduate" because he had a summer class to take that Oregon had full knowledge of prior to admitting him to grad school.

Read the article I posted.
I have read the articles and all of your postings. The articles clearly say that he has not graduated which is TRUE! They also say is he working on finishing it up which is TRUE. You tell everyone that this is a non issue and these are baseless rumors. Somehow you know more than the news media... You seem to be the one that is spreading opinion as fact!!!



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Re: Vernon Adams Jr. did not graduate

Post by Cat Grad » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:45 pm

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Cat Grad wrote:There appears to be several posters who actually are taking a perverted sense of joy in the perceived shortcomings academically of one of the most dynamic and exciting young men I've had the priviledge of watching perform at MSU. And I believe he was hurt in one of the games I watched him almost single handedly beat our Cats. I hope he graduates, earns the starting position and wins the Heisman after getting snubbed two years in a row by the podunk level voters.
I'm sorry, I just can't stand the kid. Don't get me wrong, he's a great player, but the hubris is a bit much and the priorities in his personal life seem to be askew. So when a cocky little punk like him can't even pass a freaken "math" class (he got an incomplete) from Eastern freaken Washington (one of the least employable educations in the conference), yeah, it's funny, especially when you consider the stakes of passing said "math" class.

I definitely understand your perspective as there are several teams that when they pull that crap, I'd like to throw something through the T.V. like almost all the PAC10 teams, BYU, Boise State or any predominately mormon school, Notre Dame, ACC schools in general and Carolina specifically. For the most part, I enjoy watching self confident kids and the ones who work their asses off to perform at the same level and ultimately higher level than those more gifted early in life or have had mommy and daddy helping them along the way. We've got a kid coming to Bozoville from Louisiana this year I personally want to see tear our conference up who came from the same background as Adams and our own Shawn Johnson. No, I can't stand watching a kid from a priviledged background demonstrate swag in any shape or form, especially when it's taunting like that defensive end from Boise State a few years ago against LaGarrett Blount! I loved watching Blount pop him in the face!



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Re: Vernon Adams Jr. did not graduate

Post by Jobu » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:51 pm

This is a non-story, and watching Big Sky fans stumble over themselves to be the "first" with non-news has been entertaining, at least.
Other than a cursory interest since the guy played in the BSC, I basically could give two $hits about the story, or whether Adams plays a down at Oregon. Frankly, it doesn't interest me very much.

What does interest me is that you've never admitted you were wrong, and never apologized to the OP for blasting him about posting false rumors, when not only were the rumors legitimate, but they were 100% accurate. It's okay to admit you were wrong, you know. And you were.


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Re: Vernon Adams Jr. did not graduate

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Cat Grad wrote:There appears to be several posters who actually are taking a perverted sense of joy in the perceived shortcomings academically of one of the most dynamic and exciting young men I've had the priviledge of watching perform at MSU. And I believe he was hurt in one of the games I watched him almost single handedly beat our Cats. I hope he graduates, earns the starting position and wins the Heisman after getting snubbed two years in a row by the podunk level voters.
I'm sorry, I just can't stand the kid. Don't get me wrong, he's a great player, but the hubris is a bit much and the priorities in his personal life seem to be askew. So when a cocky little punk like him can't even pass a freaken "math" class (he got an incomplete) from Eastern freaken Washington (one of the least employable educations in the conference), yeah, it's funny, especially when you consider the stakes of passing said "math" class.
VA is a super talented kids but I hate the way he acts on the field. You heard the phrase, act like you have been there before. VA seems to be the hip hop guy that thinks he is at a dance party. I can't stand that. Who is he more like right now: Jameis Winston or Mariotta? Who has the better image?

Regardless, I hope he tears up the PAC 12. Would be a great statement about the level of athletes in FCS. Who knows, maybe he will also get a learn a humility along the way. A little maturity on the field could help his image.



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Re: Vernon Adams Jr. did not graduate

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LongTimeCatFan wrote:
Cat Grad wrote:There appears to be several posters who actually are taking a perverted sense of joy in the perceived shortcomings academically of one of the most dynamic and exciting young men I've had the priviledge of watching perform at MSU. And I believe he was hurt in one of the games I watched him almost single handedly beat our Cats. I hope he graduates, earns the starting position and wins the Heisman after getting snubbed two years in a row by the podunk level voters.
I'm sorry, I just can't stand the kid. Don't get me wrong, he's a great player, but the hubris is a bit much and the priorities in his personal life seem to be askew. So when a cocky little punk like him can't even pass a freaken "math" class (he got an incomplete) from Eastern freaken Washington (one of the least employable educations in the conference), yeah, it's funny, especially when you consider the stakes of passing said "math" class.
According to the latest information, the summer math class was always part of the plan, so the idea that he failed it in the spring seems unlikely. As for his "priorities in this personal life," what exactly do you think VA should be putting ahead of taking the best shot he can at an NFL career? Loyalty to a coach who would toss him aside in a hot second if he stopped hitting his targets or tore something the surgeons can't fix? Core classes that he'll never use anyway?

Get real.


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Re: Vernon Adams Jr. did not graduate

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BLACKnBLUEnGOLD wrote:
LongTimeCatFan wrote:
Cat Grad wrote:There appears to be several posters who actually are taking a perverted sense of joy in the perceived shortcomings academically of one of the most dynamic and exciting young men I've had the priviledge of watching perform at MSU. And I believe he was hurt in one of the games I watched him almost single handedly beat our Cats. I hope he graduates, earns the starting position and wins the Heisman after getting snubbed two years in a row by the podunk level voters.
I'm sorry, I just can't stand the kid. Don't get me wrong, he's a great player, but the hubris is a bit much and the priorities in his personal life seem to be askew. So when a cocky little punk like him can't even pass a freaken "math" class (he got an incomplete) from Eastern freaken Washington (one of the least employable educations in the conference), yeah, it's funny, especially when you consider the stakes of passing said "math" class.
According to the latest information, the summer math class was always part of the plan, so the idea that he failed it in the spring seems unlikely. As for his "priorities in this personal life," what exactly do you think VA should be putting ahead of taking the best shot he can at an NFL career? Loyalty to a coach who would toss him aside in a hot second if he stopped hitting his targets or tore something the surgeons can't fix? Core classes that he'll never use anyway?

Get real.
I'm not going to waste my time searching for links, but the summer math class was a backup plan. He had an incomplete and needed to retake the course. As to his personal life, his original reason for transferring that he stated was to take an opportunity to better the life of his family, which I respect. Expect then a month and half later, it was reported that he's split up with the mother of his child and plans to leave her and his son in Cheney while HE pursues HIS dream. Those of us that are fathers don't have any respect for such selfishness.



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Re: Vernon Adams Jr. did not graduate

Post by BLACKnBLUEnGOLD » Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:42 am

LongTimeCatFan wrote:
BLACKnBLUEnGOLD wrote:
LongTimeCatFan wrote:
Cat Grad wrote:There appears to be several posters who actually are taking a perverted sense of joy in the perceived shortcomings academically of one of the most dynamic and exciting young men I've had the priviledge of watching perform at MSU. And I believe he was hurt in one of the games I watched him almost single handedly beat our Cats. I hope he graduates, earns the starting position and wins the Heisman after getting snubbed two years in a row by the podunk level voters.
I'm sorry, I just can't stand the kid. Don't get me wrong, he's a great player, but the hubris is a bit much and the priorities in his personal life seem to be askew. So when a cocky little punk like him can't even pass a freaken "math" class (he got an incomplete) from Eastern freaken Washington (one of the least employable educations in the conference), yeah, it's funny, especially when you consider the stakes of passing said "math" class.
According to the latest information, the summer math class was always part of the plan, so the idea that he failed it in the spring seems unlikely. As for his "priorities in this personal life," what exactly do you think VA should be putting ahead of taking the best shot he can at an NFL career? Loyalty to a coach who would toss him aside in a hot second if he stopped hitting his targets or tore something the surgeons can't fix? Core classes that he'll never use anyway?

Get real.
I'm not going to waste my time searching for links, but the summer math class was a backup plan. He had an incomplete and needed to retake the course. As to his personal life, his original reason for transferring that he stated was to take an opportunity to better the life of his family, which I respect. Expect then a month and half later, it was reported that he's split up with the mother of his child and plans to leave her and his son in Cheney while HE pursues HIS dream. Those of us that are fathers don't have any respect for such selfishness.
The kid's probably better off with a mother who loves him and tens of thousands in child support than living with two broke people who can't stand each other, one of whom doesn't even want to be there.


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Re: Vernon Adams Jr. did not graduate

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BLACKnBLUEnGOLD wrote:
LongTimeCatFan wrote:
BLACKnBLUEnGOLD wrote:
LongTimeCatFan wrote:
Cat Grad wrote:There appears to be several posters who actually are taking a perverted sense of joy in the perceived shortcomings academically of one of the most dynamic and exciting young men I've had the priviledge of watching perform at MSU. And I believe he was hurt in one of the games I watched him almost single handedly beat our Cats. I hope he graduates, earns the starting position and wins the Heisman after getting snubbed two years in a row by the podunk level voters.
I'm sorry, I just can't stand the kid. Don't get me wrong, he's a great player, but the hubris is a bit much and the priorities in his personal life seem to be askew. So when a cocky little punk like him can't even pass a freaken "math" class (he got an incomplete) from Eastern freaken Washington (one of the least employable educations in the conference), yeah, it's funny, especially when you consider the stakes of passing said "math" class.
According to the latest information, the summer math class was always part of the plan, so the idea that he failed it in the spring seems unlikely. As for his "priorities in this personal life," what exactly do you think VA should be putting ahead of taking the best shot he can at an NFL career? Loyalty to a coach who would toss him aside in a hot second if he stopped hitting his targets or tore something the surgeons can't fix? Core classes that he'll never use anyway?

Get real.
I'm not going to waste my time searching for links, but the summer math class was a backup plan. He had an incomplete and needed to retake the course. As to his personal life, his original reason for transferring that he stated was to take an opportunity to better the life of his family, which I respect. Expect then a month and half later, it was reported that he's split up with the mother of his child and plans to leave her and his son in Cheney while HE pursues HIS dream. Those of us that are fathers don't have any respect for such selfishness.
The kid's probably better off with a mother who loves him and tens of thousands in child support than living with two broke people who can't stand each other, one of whom doesn't even want to be there.
Well, it's a choice, isn't it?



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Re: Vernon Adams Jr. did not graduate

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BLACKnBLUEnGOLD wrote:
LongTimeCatFan wrote:
Cat Grad wrote:There appears to be several posters who actually are taking a perverted sense of joy in the perceived shortcomings academically of one of the most dynamic and exciting young men I've had the priviledge of watching perform at MSU. And I believe he was hurt in one of the games I watched him almost single handedly beat our Cats. I hope he graduates, earns the starting position and wins the Heisman after getting snubbed two years in a row by the podunk level voters.
I'm sorry, I just can't stand the kid. Don't get me wrong, he's a great player, but the hubris is a bit much and the priorities in his personal life seem to be askew. So when a cocky little punk like him can't even pass a freaken "math" class (he got an incomplete) from Eastern freaken Washington (one of the least employable educations in the conference), yeah, it's funny, especially when you consider the stakes of passing said "math" class.
According to the latest information, the summer math class was always part of the plan, so the idea that he failed it in the spring seems unlikely. As for his "priorities in this personal life," what exactly do you think VA should be putting ahead of taking the best shot he can at an NFL career? Loyalty to a coach who would toss him aside in a hot second if he stopped hitting his targets or tore something the surgeons can't fix? Core classes that he'll never use anyway?

Get real.

Summer school Was not part of the original plan. VA changed his major at the last minute to
Essentially a general Studies degree, as his prior major required an internship that would have taken the summer session. He wanted to graduate in the spring so he could be there and participate in the summer workouts, which he can't now. Just listen to Eastern's coaches and administration when the decision was first announced, they stated that this could be a problem.

All parties are going to say the right thing, but this was absolutely not part of the plan. Heck, Easterns summer session ends after Oregon's fall practices begin, that could create another issue in itself.

For his sake I hope this works out for him, he is a good
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Re: Vernon Adams Jr. did not graduate

Post by wbtfg » Sun Jul 12, 2015 5:07 pm

any truth to the rumor that the math course is "Subtraction: Addition's tricky friend"



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Post by LongTimeCatFan » Sun Jul 12, 2015 8:41 pm

wbtfg wrote:any truth to the rumor that the math course is "Subtraction: Addition's tricky friend"
Oh damn, the rumor police will be on your ass like Bill Cosby on a drugged up white girl on a Saturday night.



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Post by JDoub » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:17 pm

My money is on him graduating in time

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Post by Montanabob » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:20 pm

so if he doesn't graduate how does this affect Eastern Washington's academic scores does it improve them or not count. and who cares


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Post by PapaG » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:58 pm

LongTimeCatFan wrote:the priorities in his personal life seem to be askew. So when a cocky little punk like him can't even pass a freaken "math" class (he got an incomplete) from Eastern freaken Washington (one of the least employable educations in the conference), yeah, it's funny, especially when you consider the stakes of passing said "math" class.
First of all, Oregon knew all along the math class was in the summer, so there is no reason to lie.

Second, what do you mean his personal life priorities seem to be askew? I moved away from my family for a few months when my kids were small in order to advance my professional career. It sucked personally, but it was an opportunity I couldn't turn down, so I sweated at RTP in North Carolina one summer and worked 12 hours a day.

It seems to me that Adams thinks UO gives him the best opportunity for his football future in terms of playing, and he's mentioned he wants to get involved with coaching after his playing days are over. How is being potentially the starting QB for the University of Oregon a bad move for his future, if his intention is to coach? He'll be getting elite level contacts at an elite program, instead of FCS level contacts at an elite FCS program. Is he cocky, sure, and I don't like that stuff on the field, but by all accounts he's a good man and a good father, and his girlfriend and kid are in Eugene with him for the summer.


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Re: Vernon Adams Jr. did not graduate

Post by PapaG » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:59 pm

Cataholic wrote:
PapaG wrote:There is a big difference between "did not graduate" and "is yet to graduate" because he had a summer class to take that Oregon had full knowledge of prior to admitting him to grad school.

Read the article I posted.
I have read the articles and all of your postings. The articles clearly say that he has not graduated which is TRUE! They also say is he working on finishing it up which is TRUE. You tell everyone that this is a non issue and these are baseless rumors. Somehow you know more than the news media... You seem to be the one that is spreading opinion as fact!!!
How was he supposed to graduate before he could actually graduate? The math class was always a summer class. It's a bunch of old ladies in a Tuesday afternoon bridge club here.
Somehow you know more than the news media.
There have been plenty of articles posted that state UO knows exactly what Adams' timeline was to graduate. That you choose to ignore them and act like a child is on you, not me. :D


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Post by PapaG » Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:03 pm

Jobu wrote: It's okay to admit you were wrong, you know. And you were.
I'm not wrong. He's graduating this week. He'll be in camp August 13th. I've been saying that all along. Oregon has known all along. They can't talk about it until he's actually graduated, though, which is why the Bobcat Nation Bridge Club has been all atwitter. He's already admitted to grad school. He'll enroll in classes on August 5th.

If that doesn't happen, I'll admit I was wrong, but I'd be surprised, based on the people I know around the program.


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Re: Vernon Adams Jr. did not graduate

Post by PapaG » Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:06 pm

LongTimeCatFan wrote:
I'm not going to waste my time searching for links, but the summer math class was a backup plan.
Well, you'd better waste your time, because now you're libeling Vernon Adams and are simply talking out of your butt.
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Post by PapaG » Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:07 pm

wbtfg wrote:any truth to the rumor that the math course is "Subtraction: Addition's tricky friend"
Ha!

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Post by PapaG » Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:09 pm

marceag wrote:

Summer school Was not part of the original plan. VA changed his major at the last minute to
Essentially a general Studies degree, as his prior major required an internship that would have taken the summer session.
Link? Everything here in Portland says UO knew he needed to pass a summer class from the get-go.

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