Big Play VA is transferring

[FTG06']

Autzen > The abomination known as the "inferno"

I don't blame the kid for going to greener pastures. But I don't think this will help his draft stock.

I'll bet Jamie Marshall is elated right now.


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If he ends up starting for UO (which will be one of the better teams in the country again), how could it not help his draft stock?

As we all know, being a standout QB at the FCS level isn't exactly a shoo-in for a draft slot. In fact, it's quite rare to get drafted as a QB from the FCS level.

I don't think he will start for the Ducks. PAC12 is a whole new world compared to the BSC.


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EWU with VA beat Oregon State and came very close against the Huskies. He will have even better talent around him at OU. I don't see it being too big for him at all.

OSU and UW are not good teams ( I.e. They can't play defense). Not saying you're wrong, but using those two data points doesn't prove his case.


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[91catAlum]

Autzen > The abomination known as the "inferno"

I don't blame the kid for going to greener pastures. But I don't think this will help his draft stock.

I'll bet Jamie Marshall is elated right now.


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If he ends up starting for UO (which will be one of the better teams in the country again), how could it not help his draft stock?

As we all know, being a standout QB at the FCS level isn't exactly a shoo-in for a draft slot. In fact, it's quite rare to get drafted as a QB from the FCS level.

I don't think he will start for the Ducks. PAC12 is a whole new world compared to the BSC.


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EWU with VA beat Oregon State and came very close against the Huskies. He will have even better talent around him at OU. I don't see it being too big for him at all.

OSU and UW are not good teams ( I.e. They can't play defense). Not saying you're wrong, but using those two data points doesn't prove his case.


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That's true. But I still don't see him falling on his face. He may not be a Heisman candidate but I think he'll be fine.

[33MONTEBOSTON33]

Seems to me the replacement for Vernon Adams last year when he was out of action did very well, very well indeed. It is a team game. EWU still BSC favorite in my book.

[webdav]

Would it be real irony or the Alanis Morrisette kind if Oregon blew its title hopes losing to an FCS squad in its first game, led by that team's former QB? (Not saying the Eagles have a huge chance but their motivation just went sky high.)

[GRIZFNZ]

Seems to me the replacement for Vernon Adams last year when he was out of action did very well, very well indeed. It is a team game. EWU still BSC favorite in my book.

Ewu beat SUU, UNC, UND & lost to NAU with West at qb in that span, not exactly the most challenging portion of their schedule. The UNC & NAU games were their lowest scoring games all season and UND burned the redshirt status of a 3rd string freshman in order to have a qb for the game.

They lose 2 top o-lineman, top rb Forte, top db McDonald, Zylstra on d-line and all time leading tackler Hamlin at lb (apparently he's reached the end of his eligibility and is on track to collect social security when he turns 62 next year). It does sound like ewu is applying for another year of eligibility for Evan day. While not quite as old as Hamlin, Day does qualify for the Senior discount at Dennys.

I wouldn't exactly give ewu the keys to the kingdom next year. Other than the stable of receivers at ewu, you guys have a more complete team returning.

[marceag]

Seems to me the replacement for Vernon Adams last year when he was out of action did very well, very well indeed. It is a team game. EWU still BSC favorite in my book.

Ewu beat SUU, UNC, UND & lost to NAU with West at qb in that span, not exactly the most challenging portion of their schedule. The UNC & NAU games were their lowest scoring games all season and UND burned the redshirt status of a 3rd string freshman in order to have a qb for the game.

They lose 2 top o-lineman, top rb Forte, top db McDonald, Zylstra on d-line and all time leading tackler Hamlin at lb (apparently he's reached the end of his eligibility and is on track to collect social security when he turns 62 next year). It does sound like ewu is applying for another year of eligibility for Evan day. While not quite as old as Hamlin, Day does qualify for the Senior discount at Dennys.

I wouldn't exactly give ewu the keys to the kingdom next year. Other than the stable of receivers at ewu, you guys have a more complete team returning.

Eastern is going to be just fine next year. Eastern red shirted Hennessey last year who should be the next great EWU QB , will be interesting to see if he's ready to go as a freshman. Baldwin and Hill do a FANTASTIC job developing Qb's. Eags are loaded at RB and WR for the next couple of years, the offense definitely isn't the problem. Eastern needs to step up in a big way on the other side of the ball, hopefully the new D coordinator can do so...

[CatBlitz]

Autzen > The abomination known as the "inferno"

I don't blame the kid for going to greener pastures. But I don't think this will help his draft stock.

I'll bet Jamie Marshall is elated right now.


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If he ends up starting for UO (which will be one of the better teams in the country again), how could it not help his draft stock?

As we all know, being a standout QB at the FCS level isn't exactly a shoo-in for a draft slot. In fact, it's quite rare to get drafted as a QB from the FCS level.

I don't think he will start for the Ducks. PAC12 is a whole new world compared to the BSC.


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Living here and listening to all the talk, VA has to really be bad to not start. They have little confidence in Lockie and they feel the only other option is early-enrollee true freshman Waller.

[Marana CAT]

Here's a stupid question:
Let's say he gets to Oregon, goes through summer and then Fall Camp in August and it looks like he's not going to start. Can he drop back down and play right away?

Anybody know the answer to this? If VA did not get the starting job at Oregon could he transfer back to EWU if it's before classes start?

[GRIZFNZ]

Here's a stupid question:
Let's say he gets to Oregon, goes through summer and then Fall Camp in August and it looks like he's not going to start. Can he drop back down and play right away?

Anybody know the answer to this? If VA did not get the starting job at Oregon could he transfer back to EWU if it's before classes start?

You have to have at lest 2 years of eligibility left to drop down from FBS to FCS. Not sure if that would still apply to D2 or D3, as they are still governed by the NCAA. He could go NAIA [emoji33]

[merff33]

Here's a stupid question:
Let's say he gets to Oregon, goes through summer and then Fall Camp in August and it looks like he's not going to start. Can he drop back down and play right away?

Anybody know the answer to this? If VA did not get the starting job at Oregon could he transfer back to EWU if it's before classes start?

In order to transfer to Oregon, VA has to graduate from EWU.
So I guess the real question would be, does EWU offer a graduate degree in something other than sustainable life (i.e. Ronnie Hamlin)

If EWU does offer something, how quick can a person apply and get into a graduate program?

When he accepts and starts as a student at the "O", then he is an FBS player, which I think would make him inelligble to drop back down no matter how long he was there.

[Walk-on]

I think his attitude is go big or go home. Even if he doesn't start the 1st game I suppose he will keep competing and be ready when he does get his chance. I admire his courage: to walk away from a sure thing to bolster his dream and pad his resume. I don't think it a set back if he doesn't start. He's already shown what he can do and scouts will remember.

[onceacat]

I understand why VA is transferring. The Ducks are loaded up to make another run at a National Championship-while EWU is probably headed for another QF loss to a MVFC team-maybe earlier unless they drum up some defense. But I'm not really sure he's a good fit for the Ducks. Theres a pretty good chance he's the smallest guy on the roster.

UO runs the option, which means Adams will probably take 10-12 hits more per game than he did at EWU-by significantly bigger and stronger players. If I were a DC, I'd crash the DE down and make VA tuck the ball-not a knock on him, but he's 30 lbs lighter and 5 inches shorter than Mariotta (or any other QB in a power 5 conference)-I don't know if he can take that beating (how'd it work out for undersized guys like SJ and Prukop last year...great until it wasn't) Plus, he's never run the option. He's a spread QB, who racks up huge chunks of yards by chucking the ball down the field-a gunslinger, hot/cold, prone to bad passes, throws INTs (I think he threw more vs the Cats than Mariotta threw all last year).

Not really meant to be a knock on VA-he's a great FCS QB, he'd probably be solid at a mid-major, but its hard to imagine him starting day in & day out for a team that runs a completely different offense (Remember how great JJ was until the Griz instituted a pro-style offense?)

Obviously, Oregon's coaches have a lot more football knowledge than I do, and if theres a guy that can pull it off, it might just be VA. But I've got a feeling he's being brought in to light a fire under the QBs already there, to be a solid backup, or to hold the spot warm until Waller takes over.

No way he ever gets drafted in the first 4 rounds unless he wins the Heisman.

[PapaG]

Beau Baldwin seems just a tad bitter.

Yesterday on the radio he said that Oregon needs to be questioning why they would need to get a QB from FCS and what went wrong. He said that Urban Meyer would never go to Northern Iowa for a QB, and neither would Oregon if it were an elite program. He also said he wants what is best for VA, yet he won't let VA use the football facilities from now until he leaves EWU.

Understandably, Oregon isn't pleased with this outburst, considering they are paying EWU over $500k to play at Autzen next September, and some boosters are calling for Mullens to buy out EWU for $50k and find a replacement FCS team. If EWU wants to bash Oregon, why should Oregon pay them money to visit Autzen?

I also have to wonder what Baldwin would have said if Oregon wanted to hire him as coach. Would he mock the Ducks for going to the FCS level for a coach? Did he feel EWU was pathetic when he left Central Washington for Cheney?

[allcat]

Beau Baldwin seems just a tad bitter.

Yesterday on the radio he said that Oregon needs to be questioning why they would need to get a QB from FCS and what went wrong. He said that Urban Meyer would never go to Northern Iowa for a QB, and neither would Oregon if it were an elite program. He also said he wants what is best for VA, yet he won't let VA use the football facilities from now until he leaves EWU.

Understandably, Oregon isn't pleased with this outburst, considering they are paying EWU over $500k to play at Autzen next September, and some boosters are calling for Mullens to buy out EWU for $50k and find a replacement FCS team. If EWU wants to bask Oregon, why should Oregon pay them money to visit Autzen?

I also have to wonder what Baldwin would have said if Oregon wanted to hire him as coach. Would he mock the Ducks for going to the FCS level for a coach? Did he feel EWU was pathetic when he left Central Washington for Cheney?

I'm just smarter than you if I zap you. You are a complete prick if you zap me.

[info197176]

Beau Baldwin seems just a tad bitter.

Yesterday on the radio he said that Oregon needs to be questioning why they would need to get a QB from FCS and what went wrong. He said that Urban Meyer would never go to Northern Iowa for a QB, and neither would Oregon if it were an elite program. He also said he wants what is best for VA, yet he won't let VA use the football facilities from now until he leaves EWU.

Understandably, Oregon isn't pleased with this outburst, considering they are paying EWU over $500k to play at Autzen next September, and some boosters are calling for Mullens to buy out EWU for $50k and find a replacement FCS team. If EWU wants to bash Oregon, why should Oregon pay them money to visit Autzen?

I also have to wonder what Baldwin would have said if Oregon wanted to hire him as coach. Would he mock the Ducks for going to the FCS level for a coach? Did he feel EWU was pathetic when he left Central Washington for Cheney?

POTY, and that's coming from a Griz fan... Baldwin is very open to getting drop-downs, Prop 48's, and additional years for his players(I think Hamlin is now eligible for AARP) but doesn't like to have the same "game" played on him...yes that's sour grapes.

[catatac]

Say what you want about BB... but I think he's a heluva coach. I think their D will be better, they'll have yet another star QB, and BB will have those guys fired up to give Oregon a game.

[LongTimeCatFan]

That's pretty freakin low. So he can't use the football facilities now? So I suppose he will forbid his teammates from working out with him this spring as well.

[catgrad05]

That's pretty freakin low. So he can't use the football facilities now? So I suppose he will forbid his teammates from working out with him this spring as well.

If I was one of his "former" teammates I wouldn't work out with him. I would want to be working with one of the other qbs to try to get new timing down. I don't have a problem with a guy that is leaving your program to not have access to the facilities. Its an honor to have guys working out after senor seasons for NFL try outs but going to another team I say good luck and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[94VegasCat]

That's pretty freakin low. So he can't use the football facilities now? So I suppose he will forbid his teammates from working out with him this spring as well.

If I was one of his "former" teammates I wouldn't work out with him. I would want to be working with one of the other qbs to try to get new timing down. I don't have a problem with a guy that is leaving your program to not have access to the facilities. Its an honor to have guys working out after senor seasons for NFL try outs but going to another team I say good luck and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

I agree with 05. Especially because it's VAJ. If it were a Bobcat, I'd be a lil upset if Ash did it. But I also don't think Prukop will be transferring UP.

[kcatz]

1. If he is not a member of the football team why we he use the football facilities? Other EWU students wouldn't have access?

2. Could EWU even allow a non member of the Football team to use their facilities?
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3. (Finally) Why would any football coach allow a player of a team they will play to practice with his team?

I don't really think it is a case of sour grapes. Baldwin needs to protect his team and the team harmony.