Griz CB suspended for 1st game

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Just a few questions, if this rumor that he was drunk is true, which is far from and probably won't ever be substantiated.
Does anyone know how he acquired the beer/booze? What if he got it from a top end booster for free? Does it make a difference to the school if he's underage? If he had been of age would he have been suspended for the game?

I doubt he acquired the booze from a booster. I knew a lot of underage drinkers in college who weren't athletes. He probably got it the same way they did.

This. Getting beer underage isn't difficult, especially in Missoula. All you need is some kids expired ID, most people just check to make sure the date is good, don't even look at the picture.

Yeah, I kind of know how that works, but I'm just wondering what happens when an underage athlete (not necessarily one from UM) gets drunk on a booster's dime. Along with the other questions. Just thought someone might know. Does the school ask him how he acquired the booze or do they just recognize he's drunk at the school function and leave it at that? I can picture a scenario where a drunk kid (booze is sometimes like truth serum) is asked where he got the booze and he says, "Oh, I was at Brand X law firm's pre-party." Then it turns out that Brand X is also a big booster. I'd guess the proper thing to do is self-report it as a violation to the NCAA, but if they just don't ask, then...

[tampa_griz]

Just a few questions, if this rumor that he was drunk is true, which is far from and probably won't ever be substantiated.
Does anyone know how he acquired the beer/booze? What if he got it from a top end booster for free? Does it make a difference to the school if he's underage? If he had been of age would he have been suspended for the game?

I doubt he acquired the booze from a booster. I knew a lot of underage drinkers in college who weren't athletes. He probably got it the same way they did.

This. Getting beer underage isn't difficult, especially in Missoula. All you need is some kids expired ID, most people just check to make sure the date is good, don't even look at the picture.

Yeah, I kind of know how that works, but I'm just wondering what happens when an underage athlete (not necessarily one from UM) gets drunk on a booster's dime. Along with the other questions. Just thought someone might know. Does the school ask him how he acquired the booze or do they just recognize he's drunk at the school function and leave it at that? I can picture a scenario where a drunk kid (booze is sometimes like truth serum) is asked where he got the booze and he says, "Oh, I was at Brand X law firm's pre-party." Then it turns out that Brand X is also a big booster. I'd guess the proper thing to do is self-report it as a violation to the NCAA, but if they just don't ask, then...

More often than not underage college students know another student who is 21 and will buy the alcohol for their younger friend. It's rare that college students are getting free booze at law offices. As I was saying earlier, I knew a lot of underage drinkers in college who weren't athletes and thus, weren't on the list of free drinkers at the law offices of boosters.

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Just a few questions, if this rumor that he was drunk is true, which is far from and probably won't ever be substantiated.
Does anyone know how he acquired the beer/booze? What if he got it from a top end booster for free? Does it make a difference to the school if he's underage? If he had been of age would he have been suspended for the game?

I doubt he acquired the booze from a booster. I knew a lot of underage drinkers in college who weren't athletes. He probably got it the same way they did.

This. Getting beer underage isn't difficult, especially in Missoula. All you need is some kids expired ID, most people just check to make sure the date is good, don't even look at the picture.

Yeah, I kind of know how that works, but I'm just wondering what happens when an underage athlete (not necessarily one from UM) gets drunk on a booster's dime. Along with the other questions. Just thought someone might know. Does the school ask him how he acquired the booze or do they just recognize he's drunk at the school function and leave it at that? I can picture a scenario where a drunk kid (booze is sometimes like truth serum) is asked where he got the booze and he says, "Oh, I was at Brand X law firm's pre-party." Then it turns out that Brand X is also a big booster. I'd guess the proper thing to do is self-report it as a violation to the NCAA, but if they just don't ask, then...

More often than not underage college students know another student who is 21 and will buy the alcohol for their younger friend. It's rare that college students are getting free booze at law offices. As I was saying earlier, I knew a lot of underage drinkers in college who weren't athletes and thus, weren't on the list of free drinkers at the law offices of boosters.

Yeah, I kind of know how that works, but I'm just wondering what happens when an underage athlete (not necessarily one from UM) gets drunk on a booster's dime. Along with the other questions. Just thought someone might know. Does the school ask him how he acquired the booze or do they just recognize he's drunk at the school function and leave it at that? I can picture a scenario where a drunk kid (booze is sometimes like truth serum) is asked where he got the booze and he says, "Oh, I was at Brand X law firm's pre-party." Then it turns out that Brand X is also a big booster. I'd guess the proper thing to do is self-report it as a violation to the NCAA, but if they just don't ask, then...

[tampa_griz]

Just a few questions, if this rumor that he was drunk is true, which is far from and probably won't ever be substantiated.
Does anyone know how he acquired the beer/booze? What if he got it from a top end booster for free? Does it make a difference to the school if he's underage? If he had been of age would he have been suspended for the game?

I doubt he acquired the booze from a booster. I knew a lot of underage drinkers in college who weren't athletes. He probably got it the same way they did.

This. Getting beer underage isn't difficult, especially in Missoula. All you need is some kids expired ID, most people just check to make sure the date is good, don't even look at the picture.

Yeah, I kind of know how that works, but I'm just wondering what happens when an underage athlete (not necessarily one from UM) gets drunk on a booster's dime. Along with the other questions. Just thought someone might know. Does the school ask him how he acquired the booze or do they just recognize he's drunk at the school function and leave it at that? I can picture a scenario where a drunk kid (booze is sometimes like truth serum) is asked where he got the booze and he says, "Oh, I was at Brand X law firm's pre-party." Then it turns out that Brand X is also a big booster. I'd guess the proper thing to do is self-report it as a violation to the NCAA, but if they just don't ask, then...

More often than not underage college students know another student who is 21 and will buy the alcohol for their younger friend. It's rare that college students are getting free booze at law offices. As I was saying earlier, I knew a lot of underage drinkers in college who weren't athletes and thus, weren't on the list of free drinkers at the law offices of boosters.

Yeah, I kind of know how that works, but I'm just wondering what happens when an underage athlete (not necessarily one from UM) gets drunk on a booster's dime. Along with the other questions. Just thought someone might know. Does the school ask him how he acquired the booze or do they just recognize he's drunk at the school function and leave it at that? I can picture a scenario where a drunk kid (booze is sometimes like truth serum) is asked where he got the booze and he says, "Oh, I was at Brand X law firm's pre-party." Then it turns out that Brand X is also a big booster. I'd guess the proper thing to do is self-report it as a violation to the NCAA, but if they just don't ask, then...

You wonder if athletes are drinking at law offices?

[AlphaGriz1]

I am going to go the other way with this.

Football is football, if something is happening at practice, team meetings or game days then its football related.

If a football player isnt at one of those functions he is a civilian that happens to play football and the fact that he plays football has ZERO FU*KING footing on a person drinking, selling/using drugs or stealing from cars.

Its the same thing as an employer thinking they can tell you what to do when you are not at work. Sure some employers/people get away with doing this but its bullsh*t on every front. If you are doing drugs/drinking or participating in a gay rodeo on the clock then its the employers business.

If not, its an invasion of privacy.

Well he was (allegedly) at a football function so I don't know if your position is relevant to this discussion. Be that as it may, I disagree. Employers have a right to determine what behavior outside the workplace is acceptable.....even if it's legal. If I ran a web site promoting Nazi-ism or white identity or similar I would certainly lose my job even though the government says I'm allowed to under the first amendment. And that's the way it should be. I have the right to do what I want legally and my employer has the right to define what type of professionals they want to employ.

Yep, especially if that employee is a public face of the company (which is a role each football player assumes on behalf of the university).

You both have the right to your opinion but your wrong, if a guy has a hobby running a Nazi website but shows up for work everyday and puts in his time its none of your employers business what he does.

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You wonder if athletes are drinking at law offices?

No, I wonder what happens if an athlete is provided drinks by a booster. A law office could be a booster, so I used that as an example. I also wonder what a school does in an instance like this where it recognizes that a player is drunk at a school event. Do they ask questions about how the underage student was able to get booze or do they not ask?

[tampa_griz]

You wonder if athletes are drinking at law offices?

No, I wonder what happens if an athlete is provided drinks by a booster. A law office could be a booster, so I used that as an example. I also wonder what a school does in an instance like this where it recognizes that a player is drunk at a school event. Do they ask questions about how the underage student was able to get booze or do they not ask?

You wonder how underage students get booze? I thought that you said earlier that you undertstood how it works but that you were specifically curious about the ramifications of students drinking at law offices. Right?

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You wonder if athletes are drinking at law offices?

No, I wonder what happens if an athlete is provided drinks by a booster. A law office could be a booster, so I used that as an example. I also wonder what a school does in an instance like this where it recognizes that a player is drunk at a school event. Do they ask questions about how the underage student was able to get booze or do they not ask?

You wonder how underage students get booze? I thought that you said earlier that you undertstood how it works but that you were specifically curious about the ramifications of students drinking at law offices. Right?

Nope. I sense you're practicing selective confusion as a means to be a smartass or avoid the question. In my hypothetical dramatization of how a conversation between said drunk player and school official might go I used a law office in the role of booster, but did not say only law offices.

I don't wonder how underage students get booze. I wonder how a drunk player is investigated by the school. I would think how the acquisition of booze took place would be one of the standard questions. There are many ways for an underage athlete to get booze and some of them (having it provided by a booster) could lead to other problems for the university. Just curious if anyone knows. Thanks for playing.

[Rich K]

Athletes get their booze the same way I got booze when I was in college. But I can't remember how I did that cause I was in a blackout.

[ilovethecats]

Athletes get their booze the same way I got booze when I was in college. But I can't remember how I did that cause I was in a blackout.

doubt that is true. especially athletes in missoula. i say this because when you were in college....you likely got carded AND had to pay....

[Rich K]

Athletes get their booze the same way I got booze when I was in college. But I can't remember how I did that cause I was in a blackout.

doubt that is true. especially athletes in missoula. i say this because when you were in college....you likely got carded AND had to pay....

Well, it might have been a tad bit of a dramatization, but for at least the first year of college I was underage (<19), I didn't have a fake ID, I didn't steal the booze, and I was broke most of the time. But I still had way more than my share of booze. It really wasn't that difficult to get.

[BR GRIZ]

You wonder if athletes are drinking at law offices?

No, I wonder what happens if an athlete is provided drinks by a booster. A law office could be a booster, so I used that as an example. I also wonder what a school does in an instance like this where it recognizes that a player is drunk at a school event. Do they ask questions about how the underage student was able to get booze or do they not ask?

You wonder how underage students get booze? I thought that you said earlier that you undertstood how it works but that you were specifically curious about the ramifications of students drinking at law offices. Right?

Nope. I sense you're practicing selective confusion as a means to be a smartass or avoid the question. In my hypothetical dramatization of how a conversation between said drunk player and school official might go I used a law office in the role of booster, but did not say only law offices.

I don't wonder how underage students get booze. I wonder how a drunk player is investigated by the school. I would think how the acquisition of booze took place would be one of the standard questions. There are many ways for an underage athlete to get booze and some of them (having it provided by a booster) could lead to other problems for the university. Just curious if anyone knows. Thanks for playing.

I heard UM is handling it internally like MSU did with the Mintner incident, and that UM believes Delaney will probably have whoever provided the booze run windsprints.

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I heard UM is handling it internally like MSU did with the Mintner incident, and that UM believes Delaney will probably have whoever provided the booze run windsprints.

Not asking how UM handles it. Just wondering how schools, in general, handle it. And, in the event that a booster provided the booze, how a school handles that. But I do like the visual of Delaney making boosters run wind sprints.

At this point I'm not wondering about how this would be handled as I'm too busy enjoying how defensive some of you are.

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You both have the right to your opinion but your wrong, if a guy has a hobby running a Nazi website but shows up for work everyday and puts in his time its none of your employers business what he does.

So what if you had an employee off the clock and at a bar one evening and exessively drunk. He decides he just doesn't like some guy across the bar. He walks up to him and smacks him directly on the nose, breaking it. The guy with the broken nose happens to be your single biggest client and your biggest referrer of other business to you. The guy with the broken nose recognizes the guy as one of your employees. He pull 100% of his business away from your company costing you a very large percentage of your overall business.

Your employee was off the clock and acting on his own. Maybe he even got arrested, but was released so it in no way has affected his time on the clock at work. So it is okay to retain him as an employee with no repercussions even though you may have just lost hundreds of thousands of dollars due to his behavior off the clock?