Crazy ending to griz game.

[grizgirl]

I cannot believe this thread still lives.

And bracket, there is absolutely no rule in college basketball allowing anyone to advance the ball. It ain't the NBA.

The call was correct. Get over it.

Damn, I sure wish people were as passionate about getting Bobcat basketball respectable again as they are about preaching how the world wronged them when the Griz win a game.

I can't believe my own sweet, adorable Griz fans, well actually I can, are arguing this. Coaches and players can't go on the floor during a play. That has to be called something. I love it when the fans and players crash the court its a great sight, but only after the buzzer goes off. That whole scene was ridiculous and hopefully the NCAA does something to fix it.

Yeah, it's not just Griz fans.

And it happens dozens of times each year. I'll be waiting expectantly for the posts expressing outrage each and every time it happens in a game next year and no T is called. Why do I doubt I'll see one.....

You're talking about two different things. Fans running onto the court is not the same as a single coach or player running onto the court. You don't know a live ball from a dead ball, so, with all due respect, I don't really think you're qualified to be in this conversation.

[Jobu]

The clock being stopped is not the same as the ref blowing a play dead.

Yeah, that's actually the definition of a dead ball: when the clock is stopped. Yes, had NAU inbounded, the play would have been live. But it WASN'T. The officials stopped all action to review the monitor to determine how much time was remaining. As an aside, compliments to the Griz clock keeper for stopping that thing on the precise tenth of a second and not giving the Griz (either purposely or not) and unfair advantage.

[[cat_bracket]]

GG, you need to understand the basic rules. The clock is AUTOMATICALLY DEAD the moment the ball goes through the hoop. The clock is stopped immediately. It's not a live play until the ball is inbounded. Since the officials blew the whistle to review the play, it never was inbounded.

The clock being stopped is not the same as the ref blowing a play dead. Once the player grabs the ball out of the net the game is live. It's only a dead ball after the whistle. If ref hands player the ball the inbound play is in motion (live), if he blows whistle again it's dead.

Nope. It's a dead ball. I thought we already corrected you on this very basic concept. You seemed to understand it for a while. Are you confused again?

If a player is inbounding the ball the inbound play is live. If the ref blows his whistle it's dead. When the ball goes out of bounds the play is whistled dead. A play is also dead when the FT shooter is shooting the first of a two shot foul.

[Jobu]

GG, you need to understand the basic rules. The clock is AUTOMATICALLY DEAD the moment the ball goes through the hoop. The clock is stopped immediately. It's not a live play until the ball is inbounded. Since the officials blew the whistle to review the play, it never was inbounded.

The clock being stopped is not the same as the ref blowing a play dead. Once the player grabs the ball out of the net the game is live. It's only a dead ball after the whistle. If ref hands player the ball the inbound play is in motion (live), if he blows whistle again it's dead.

Nope. It's a dead ball. I thought we already corrected you on this very basic concept. You seemed to understand it for a while. Are you confused again?

If a player is inbounding the ball the inbound play is live. If the ref blows his whistle it's dead. When the ball goes out of bounds the play is whistled dead. A play is also dead when the FT shooter is shooting the first of a two shot foul.

Wikipedia??

Yeah, I'm pretty much done with this insane argument until you raise it again next year when this situation occurs in the East Tennessee vs. Kent State game.

[grizgirl]

The clock being stopped is not the same as the ref blowing a play dead.

Yeah, that's actually the definition of a dead ball: when the clock is stopped. Yes, had NAU inbounded, the play would have been live. But it WASN'T. The officials stopped all action to review the monitor to determine how much time was remaining. As an aside, compliments to the Griz clock keeper for stopping that thing on the precise tenth of a second and not giving the Griz (either purposely or not) and unfair advantage.

You need to watch the replay again. The ref doesn't blow his whistle until the player is diving off the court. And that is almost certainly why he blows his whistle.

[tampa_griz]

GG, you need to understand the basic rules. The clock is AUTOMATICALLY DEAD the moment the ball goes through the hoop. The clock is stopped immediately. It's not a live play until the ball is inbounded. Since the officials blew the whistle to review the play, it never was inbounded.

The clock being stopped is not the same as the ref blowing a play dead. Once the player grabs the ball out of the net the game is live. It's only a dead ball after the whistle. If ref hands player the ball the inbound play is in motion (live), if he blows whistle again it's dead.

Nope. It's a dead ball. I thought we already corrected you on this very basic concept. You seemed to understand it for a while. Are you confused again?

If a player is inbounding the ball the inbound play is live. If the ref blows his whistle it's dead. When the ball goes out of bounds the play is whistled dead. A play is also dead when the FT shooter is shooting the first of a two shot foul.

If the player was inbounding the ball then the clock would've started again. That's the rule after making a field goal with less than a minute to play.

But that isn't what happened. Sorry for your luck.

[[cat_bracket]]

GG, you need to understand the basic rules. The clock is AUTOMATICALLY DEAD the moment the ball goes through the hoop. The clock is stopped immediately. It's not a live play until the ball is inbounded. Since the officials blew the whistle to review the play, it never was inbounded.

The clock being stopped is not the same as the ref blowing a play dead. Once the player grabs the ball out of the net the game is live. It's only a dead ball after the whistle. If ref hands player the ball the inbound play is in motion (live), if he blows whistle again it's dead.

Nope. It's a dead ball. I thought we already corrected you on this very basic concept. You seemed to understand it for a while. Are you confused again?

If a player is inbounding the ball the inbound play is live. If the ref blows his whistle it's dead. When the ball goes out of bounds the play is whistled dead. A play is also dead when the FT shooter is shooting the first of a two shot foul.

Wikipedia??

Yeah, I'm pretty much done with this insane argument until you raise it again next year when this situation occurs in the East Tennessee vs. Kent State game.

Well you better go look at Wikipedia again. It doesn't say its a dead ball after a made field goal. If made field goals were dead balls you'd be able to substitute.

[grizgirl]

GG, you need to understand the basic rules. The clock is AUTOMATICALLY DEAD the moment the ball goes through the hoop. The clock is stopped immediately. It's not a live play until the ball is inbounded. Since the officials blew the whistle to review the play, it never was inbounded.

The clock being stopped is not the same as the ref blowing a play dead. Once the player grabs the ball out of the net the game is live. It's only a dead ball after the whistle. If ref hands player the ball the inbound play is in motion (live), if he blows whistle again it's dead.

Nope. It's a dead ball. I thought we already corrected you on this very basic concept. You seemed to understand it for a while. Are you confused again?

If a player is inbounding the ball the inbound play is live. If the ref blows his whistle it's dead. When the ball goes out of bounds the play is whistled dead. A play is also dead when the FT shooter is shooting the first of a two shot foul.

If the player was inbounding the ball then the clock would've started again. That's the rule after making a field goal with less than a minute to play.

But that isn't what happened. Sorry for your luck.

Epic fail. The clock doesn't start until the ball is touched after it is thrown in. You're in the process of inbounding the ball (five-second count starts) once you grab the ball after the basket is made.

[Jobu]

GG, you need to understand the basic rules. The clock is AUTOMATICALLY DEAD the moment the ball goes through the hoop. The clock is stopped immediately. It's not a live play until the ball is inbounded. Since the officials blew the whistle to review the play, it never was inbounded.

The clock being stopped is not the same as the ref blowing a play dead. Once the player grabs the ball out of the net the game is live. It's only a dead ball after the whistle. If ref hands player the ball the inbound play is in motion (live), if he blows whistle again it's dead.

Nope. It's a dead ball. I thought we already corrected you on this very basic concept. You seemed to understand it for a while. Are you confused again?

If a player is inbounding the ball the inbound play is live. If the ref blows his whistle it's dead. When the ball goes out of bounds the play is whistled dead. A play is also dead when the FT shooter is shooting the first of a two shot foul.

Wikipedia??

Yeah, I'm pretty much done with this insane argument until you raise it again next year when this situation occurs in the East Tennessee vs. Kent State game.

Well you better go look at Wikipedia again. It doesn't say its a dead ball after a made field goal. If made field goals were dead balls you'd be able to substitute.

I didn't look at wiki. I know the rules without having to google them. I just assumed by your response that it came from wiki, because it sure sounded like it did.

And you DO realize that under a minute to play the ball is automatically dead after a made basket? Right???

[grizgirl]

http://www.hoopsvibe.com/basketball-tra ... -dead-ball

LIVE BALL. A live ball is one that is legally in play. A dead ball is one that isn’t legally in play.
The ball becomes live when (a) it leaves the referee’ s or umpire’ s hands on a jump ball, (b) during a throw-in, or (c) when the referee or umpire places the ball at a free thrower’ s disposal for a free-throw attempt.

[tampa_griz]

GG, you need to understand the basic rules. The clock is AUTOMATICALLY DEAD the moment the ball goes through the hoop. The clock is stopped immediately. It's not a live play until the ball is inbounded. Since the officials blew the whistle to review the play, it never was inbounded.

The clock being stopped is not the same as the ref blowing a play dead. Once the player grabs the ball out of the net the game is live. It's only a dead ball after the whistle. If ref hands player the ball the inbound play is in motion (live), if he blows whistle again it's dead.

Nope. It's a dead ball. I thought we already corrected you on this very basic concept. You seemed to understand it for a while. Are you confused again?

If a player is inbounding the ball the inbound play is live. If the ref blows his whistle it's dead. When the ball goes out of bounds the play is whistled dead. A play is also dead when the FT shooter is shooting the first of a two shot foul.

If the player was inbounding the ball then the clock would've started again. That's the rule after making a field goal with less than a minute to play.

But that isn't what happened. Sorry for your luck.

Epic fail. The clock doesn't start until the ball is touched after it is thrown in. You're in the process of inbounding the ball (five-second count starts) once you grab the ball after the basket is made.

By "inbounding" I meant "inbounding" Alpha.

[grizgirl]

GG, you need to understand the basic rules. The clock is AUTOMATICALLY DEAD the moment the ball goes through the hoop. The clock is stopped immediately. It's not a live play until the ball is inbounded. Since the officials blew the whistle to review the play, it never was inbounded.

The clock being stopped is not the same as the ref blowing a play dead. Once the player grabs the ball out of the net the game is live. It's only a dead ball after the whistle. If ref hands player the ball the inbound play is in motion (live), if he blows whistle again it's dead.

Nope. It's a dead ball. I thought we already corrected you on this very basic concept. You seemed to understand it for a while. Are you confused again?

If a player is inbounding the ball the inbound play is live. If the ref blows his whistle it's dead. When the ball goes out of bounds the play is whistled dead. A play is also dead when the FT shooter is shooting the first of a two shot foul.

Wikipedia??

Yeah, I'm pretty much done with this insane argument until you raise it again next year when this situation occurs in the East Tennessee vs. Kent State game.

Well you better go look at Wikipedia again. It doesn't say its a dead ball after a made field goal. If made field goals were dead balls you'd be able to substitute.

I didn't look at wiki. I know the rules without having to google them. I just assumed by your response that it came from wiki, because it sure sounded like it did.

And you DO realize that under a minute to play the ball is automatically dead after a made basket? Right???

That isn't true. The clock stops, but the ball isn't dead. See my link above.

[grizgirl]

GG, you need to understand the basic rules. The clock is AUTOMATICALLY DEAD the moment the ball goes through the hoop. The clock is stopped immediately. It's not a live play until the ball is inbounded. Since the officials blew the whistle to review the play, it never was inbounded.

The clock being stopped is not the same as the ref blowing a play dead. Once the player grabs the ball out of the net the game is live. It's only a dead ball after the whistle. If ref hands player the ball the inbound play is in motion (live), if he blows whistle again it's dead.

Nope. It's a dead ball. I thought we already corrected you on this very basic concept. You seemed to understand it for a while. Are you confused again?

If a player is inbounding the ball the inbound play is live. If the ref blows his whistle it's dead. When the ball goes out of bounds the play is whistled dead. A play is also dead when the FT shooter is shooting the first of a two shot foul.

If the player was inbounding the ball then the clock would've started again. That's the rule after making a field goal with less than a minute to play.

But that isn't what happened. Sorry for your luck.

Epic fail. The clock doesn't start until the ball is touched after it is thrown in. You're in the process of inbounding the ball (five-second count starts) once you grab the ball after the basket is made.

By "inbounding" I meant "inbounding" Alpha.

Sorry, but you're "dead" wrong on this. See link above.

[grizgirl]

http://www.hoopsvibe.com/basketball-tra ... -dead-ball

LIVE BALL. A live ball is one that is legally in play. A dead ball is one that isn’t legally in play.
The ball becomes live when (a) it leaves the referee’ s or umpire’ s hands on a jump ball, (b) during a throw-in, or (c) when the referee or umpire places the ball at a free thrower’ s disposal for a free-throw attempt.

Bump.

[tampa_griz]

GG, you need to understand the basic rules. The clock is AUTOMATICALLY DEAD the moment the ball goes through the hoop. The clock is stopped immediately. It's not a live play until the ball is inbounded. Since the officials blew the whistle to review the play, it never was inbounded.

The clock being stopped is not the same as the ref blowing a play dead. Once the player grabs the ball out of the net the game is live. It's only a dead ball after the whistle. If ref hands player the ball the inbound play is in motion (live), if he blows whistle again it's dead.

Nope. It's a dead ball. I thought we already corrected you on this very basic concept. You seemed to understand it for a while. Are you confused again?

If a player is inbounding the ball the inbound play is live. If the ref blows his whistle it's dead. When the ball goes out of bounds the play is whistled dead. A play is also dead when the FT shooter is shooting the first of a two shot foul.

If the player was inbounding the ball then the clock would've started again. That's the rule after making a field goal with less than a minute to play.

But that isn't what happened. Sorry for your luck.

Epic fail. The clock doesn't start until the ball is touched after it is thrown in. You're in the process of inbounding the ball (five-second count starts) once you grab the ball after the basket is made.

By "inbounding" I meant "inbounding" Alpha.

Sorry, but you're "dead" wrong on this. See link above.

Not today Alpha. When I said "inbounding" I meant "inbounding".

[grizgirl]

More on dead ball definition.

BASKETBALL RULES SUMMARY
Rule 6: Live Ball & Dead Ball
1 There are only three ways to make a dead ball alive:
a) Jump Ball- When it leaves the referees hand
b) Throw In- When the ball is at the disposal of the thrower.
c) Free Throw- When the ball is at the disposal of the free thrower
The traveling and dribbling rules are not in effect during these situations.

[grizgirl]

GG, you need to understand the basic rules. The clock is AUTOMATICALLY DEAD the moment the ball goes through the hoop. The clock is stopped immediately. It's not a live play until the ball is inbounded. Since the officials blew the whistle to review the play, it never was inbounded.

The clock being stopped is not the same as the ref blowing a play dead. Once the player grabs the ball out of the net the game is live. It's only a dead ball after the whistle. If ref hands player the ball the inbound play is in motion (live), if he blows whistle again it's dead.

Nope. It's a dead ball. I thought we already corrected you on this very basic concept. You seemed to understand it for a while. Are you confused again?

If a player is inbounding the ball the inbound play is live. If the ref blows his whistle it's dead. When the ball goes out of bounds the play is whistled dead. A play is also dead when the FT shooter is shooting the first of a two shot foul.

If the player was inbounding the ball then the clock would've started again. That's the rule after making a field goal with less than a minute to play.

But that isn't what happened. Sorry for your luck.

Epic fail. The clock doesn't start until the ball is touched after it is thrown in. You're in the process of inbounding the ball (five-second count starts) once you grab the ball after the basket is made.

By "inbounding" I meant "inbounding" Alpha.

Sorry, but you're "dead" wrong on this. See link above.

Not today Alpha. When I said "inbounding" I meant "inbounding".

Alpha may know what you're talking about, but I don't. Are you and Jobu going to admit that you're wrong on live/dead ball discussion?

[tampa_griz]

GG, you need to understand the basic rules. The clock is AUTOMATICALLY DEAD the moment the ball goes through the hoop. The clock is stopped immediately. It's not a live play until the ball is inbounded. Since the officials blew the whistle to review the play, it never was inbounded.

The clock being stopped is not the same as the ref blowing a play dead. Once the player grabs the ball out of the net the game is live. It's only a dead ball after the whistle. If ref hands player the ball the inbound play is in motion (live), if he blows whistle again it's dead.

Nope. It's a dead ball. I thought we already corrected you on this very basic concept. You seemed to understand it for a while. Are you confused again?

If a player is inbounding the ball the inbound play is live. If the ref blows his whistle it's dead. When the ball goes out of bounds the play is whistled dead. A play is also dead when the FT shooter is shooting the first of a two shot foul.

If the player was inbounding the ball then the clock would've started again. That's the rule after making a field goal with less than a minute to play.

But that isn't what happened. Sorry for your luck.

Epic fail. The clock doesn't start until the ball is touched after it is thrown in. You're in the process of inbounding the ball (five-second count starts) once you grab the ball after the basket is made.

By "inbounding" I meant "inbounding" Alpha.

Sorry, but you're "dead" wrong on this. See link above.

Not today Alpha. When I said "inbounding" I meant "inbounding".

Alpha may know what I'm talking about, but you don't. Are you and Jobu going to admit that you're wrong on live/dead ball discussion?

FIFY

Besides you/Alpha said that the referee blew the whistle. Are you now arguing with yourself? Probably easy when you have multiple personalities.

[grizgirl]

I see you're trying to figure out a way to get off the subject of live/dead ball.

My work is done here.

[tampa_griz]

I see you're trying to figure out a way to get off the subject of live/dead ball.

My work is done here.

Haha! That little reminder get you all twisted? Toodles!