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Re: Griz (and some Cat) Info

Post by Grizfan7 » Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:32 pm

The Butcher wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:10 pm
Grizfan7 wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:44 am
The Butcher wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:42 am
Grizfan7 wrote:
Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:23 am
Why were there 9 penalties at SDSU?
Grizfan7 wrote:
Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:23 am
Why do Cat fans ALWAYS want to bring up crap from months ago and not last week? It's funny...since we're bringing up crap from long ago (yes, even Idaho was light years ago right now)
According to your logic, you shouldn't look at SDSU due to it being played 'light years ago.' Unless you hold griz fans to a lower standard than Cat fans.
I'm happy to include or not include SDSU. If one is selecting the best teams MSU has played, then SDSU should be included. I agree that SDSU was long ago. I suppose it may or may not be relevant now. However, aren't most Cats trying to say that playing SDSU fairly close shows that the Cats are good?

You can pick what you want and do your stats. I'm happy to look at the stats. To me, the most relevant games for comparison of UM and MSU are Idaho and SS. But whatever. When I chose to do stats on the 3 best opponents, I wasn't necessarily trying to compare the two teams. I was just wondering how UM and MSU did in the games against the 3 best teams they played. I don't believe I initially made any comparisons of UM and MSU from those stats. I like to look at stats. I rarely try to use the stats to compare teams to one another, other than on the particular stat. If the Cats score a lot of points, that's good. But it doesn't, alone, mean the Cats are better than UM. There are other important factors.
You are the person with an issue of using a game in the past for comparison (specifically NAU), not other posters. You hold others to a different standard than you hold yourself too is all I am saying. Simply a perception.
When I'm trying to compare the stats of how the teams did against the best teams they played, I pick the best teams they played. Note that I chose SDSU. That was long ago.I do think that more recent games are more relevant. Also, games with more of the same key players playing (like McDowell in the case of UM). If you think the NAU loss is relevant, given that McDowell wasn't the qb, and it was before UM starting playing better, go for it. I hope your coaches point out to the team how badly MSU beat NAU and how NAU beat UM. That would be great from my point of view.



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Re: Griz (and some Cat) Info

Post by Joe Bobcat » Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:46 pm

Grizfan7 wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:32 pm
The Butcher wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:10 pm
Grizfan7 wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:44 am
The Butcher wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:42 am
Grizfan7 wrote:
Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:23 am
Why were there 9 penalties at SDSU?
Grizfan7 wrote:
Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:23 am
Why do Cat fans ALWAYS want to bring up crap from months ago and not last week? It's funny...since we're bringing up crap from long ago (yes, even Idaho was light years ago right now)
According to your logic, you shouldn't look at SDSU due to it being played 'light years ago.' Unless you hold griz fans to a lower standard than Cat fans.
I'm happy to include or not include SDSU. If one is selecting the best teams MSU has played, then SDSU should be included. I agree that SDSU was long ago. I suppose it may or may not be relevant now. However, aren't most Cats trying to say that playing SDSU fairly close shows that the Cats are good?

You can pick what you want and do your stats. I'm happy to look at the stats. To me, the most relevant games for comparison of UM and MSU are Idaho and SS. But whatever. When I chose to do stats on the 3 best opponents, I wasn't necessarily trying to compare the two teams. I was just wondering how UM and MSU did in the games against the 3 best teams they played. I don't believe I initially made any comparisons of UM and MSU from those stats. I like to look at stats. I rarely try to use the stats to compare teams to one another, other than on the particular stat. If the Cats score a lot of points, that's good. But it doesn't, alone, mean the Cats are better than UM. There are other important factors.
You are the person with an issue of using a game in the past for comparison (specifically NAU), not other posters. You hold others to a different standard than you hold yourself too is all I am saying. Simply a perception.
When I'm trying to compare the stats of how the teams did against the best teams they played, I pick the best teams they played. Note that I chose SDSU. That was long ago.I do think that more recent games are more relevant. Also, games with more of the same key players playing (like McDowell in the case of UM). If you think the NAU loss is relevant, given that McDowell wasn't the qb, and it was before UM starting playing better, go for it. I hope your coaches point out to the team how badly MSU beat NAU and how NAU beat UM. That would be great from my point of view.
The MSU coaches don't waste their time on making useless comparisons, that's your MO and you're a real player in the field of comparing stats.


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Re: Griz (and some Cat) Info

Post by catatac » Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:10 pm

I think my favorite stats in all of this are going to be the ones we read about in about 25 hours!


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Re: Griz (and some Cat) Info

Post by Grizfan7 » Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:00 pm

Joe Bobcat wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:46 pm
Grizfan7 wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:32 pm
The Butcher wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:10 pm
Grizfan7 wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:44 am
The Butcher wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:42 am
Grizfan7 wrote:
Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:23 am
Why were there 9 penalties at SDSU?
Grizfan7 wrote:
Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:23 am
Why do Cat fans ALWAYS want to bring up crap from months ago and not last week? It's funny...since we're bringing up crap from long ago (yes, even Idaho was light years ago right now)
According to your logic, you shouldn't look at SDSU due to it being played 'light years ago.' Unless you hold griz fans to a lower standard than Cat fans.
I'm happy to include or not include SDSU. If one is selecting the best teams MSU has played, then SDSU should be included. I agree that SDSU was long ago. I suppose it may or may not be relevant now. However, aren't most Cats trying to say that playing SDSU fairly close shows that the Cats are good?

You can pick what you want and do your stats. I'm happy to look at the stats. To me, the most relevant games for comparison of UM and MSU are Idaho and SS. But whatever. When I chose to do stats on the 3 best opponents, I wasn't necessarily trying to compare the two teams. I was just wondering how UM and MSU did in the games against the 3 best teams they played. I don't believe I initially made any comparisons of UM and MSU from those stats. I like to look at stats. I rarely try to use the stats to compare teams to one another, other than on the particular stat. If the Cats score a lot of points, that's good. But it doesn't, alone, mean the Cats are better than UM. There are other important factors.
You are the person with an issue of using a game in the past for comparison (specifically NAU), not other posters. You hold others to a different standard than you hold yourself too is all I am saying. Simply a perception.
When I'm trying to compare the stats of how the teams did against the best teams they played, I pick the best teams they played. Note that I chose SDSU. That was long ago.I do think that more recent games are more relevant. Also, games with more of the same key players playing (like McDowell in the case of UM). If you think the NAU loss is relevant, given that McDowell wasn't the qb, and it was before UM starting playing better, go for it. I hope your coaches point out to the team how badly MSU beat NAU and how NAU beat UM. That would be great from my point of view.
The MSU coaches don't waste their time on making useless comparisons, that's your MO and you're a real player in the field of comparing stats.
I will refrain from saying what Griz fans think MSU coaches waste their time on. I find it interesting that stats seem to trigger some people.



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Re: Griz (and some Cat) Info

Post by Joe Bobcat » Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:16 am

Grizfan7 wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:00 pm
Joe Bobcat wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:46 pm
Grizfan7 wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:32 pm
The Butcher wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:10 pm
Grizfan7 wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:44 am
The Butcher wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:42 am
Grizfan7 wrote:
Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:23 am
Why were there 9 penalties at SDSU?
Grizfan7 wrote:
Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:23 am
Why do Cat fans ALWAYS want to bring up crap from months ago and not last week? It's funny...since we're bringing up crap from long ago (yes, even Idaho was light years ago right now)
According to your logic, you shouldn't look at SDSU due to it being played 'light years ago.' Unless you hold griz fans to a lower standard than Cat fans.
I'm happy to include or not include SDSU. If one is selecting the best teams MSU has played, then SDSU should be included. I agree that SDSU was long ago. I suppose it may or may not be relevant now. However, aren't most Cats trying to say that playing SDSU fairly close shows that the Cats are good?

You can pick what you want and do your stats. I'm happy to look at the stats. To me, the most relevant games for comparison of UM and MSU are Idaho and SS. But whatever. When I chose to do stats on the 3 best opponents, I wasn't necessarily trying to compare the two teams. I was just wondering how UM and MSU did in the games against the 3 best teams they played. I don't believe I initially made any comparisons of UM and MSU from those stats. I like to look at stats. I rarely try to use the stats to compare teams to one another, other than on the particular stat. If the Cats score a lot of points, that's good. But it doesn't, alone, mean the Cats are better than UM. There are other important factors.
You are the person with an issue of using a game in the past for comparison (specifically NAU), not other posters. You hold others to a different standard than you hold yourself too is all I am saying. Simply a perception.
When I'm trying to compare the stats of how the teams did against the best teams they played, I pick the best teams they played. Note that I chose SDSU. That was long ago.I do think that more recent games are more relevant. Also, games with more of the same key players playing (like McDowell in the case of UM). If you think the NAU loss is relevant, given that McDowell wasn't the qb, and it was before UM starting playing better, go for it. I hope your coaches point out to the team how badly MSU beat NAU and how NAU beat UM. That would be great from my point of view.
The MSU coaches don't waste their time on making useless comparisons, that's your MO and you're a real player in the field of comparing stats.
I will refrain from saying what Griz fans think MSU coaches waste their time on. I find it interesting that stats seem to trigger some people.
I see what you mean by some people get triggered by stats. I like how excited and triggered by stats you got that you had to come to your rivals fan board to share those stats. Most here who have seen your stats have pretty much responded with a meh. So yeah it is interesting how triggered you are about stats.


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Re: Griz (and some Cat) Info

Post by Cataholic » Sat Nov 18, 2023 11:35 am

Joe Bobcat wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:16 am
Grizfan7 wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:00 pm
Joe Bobcat wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:46 pm
Grizfan7 wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:32 pm
The Butcher wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:10 pm
Grizfan7 wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:44 am
The Butcher wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:42 am
Grizfan7 wrote:
Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:23 am
Why were there 9 penalties at SDSU?
Grizfan7 wrote:
Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:23 am
Why do Cat fans ALWAYS want to bring up crap from months ago and not last week? It's funny...since we're bringing up crap from long ago (yes, even Idaho was light years ago right now)
According to your logic, you shouldn't look at SDSU due to it being played 'light years ago.' Unless you hold griz fans to a lower standard than Cat fans.
I'm happy to include or not include SDSU. If one is selecting the best teams MSU has played, then SDSU should be included. I agree that SDSU was long ago. I suppose it may or may not be relevant now. However, aren't most Cats trying to say that playing SDSU fairly close shows that the Cats are good?

You can pick what you want and do your stats. I'm happy to look at the stats. To me, the most relevant games for comparison of UM and MSU are Idaho and SS. But whatever. When I chose to do stats on the 3 best opponents, I wasn't necessarily trying to compare the two teams. I was just wondering how UM and MSU did in the games against the 3 best teams they played. I don't believe I initially made any comparisons of UM and MSU from those stats. I like to look at stats. I rarely try to use the stats to compare teams to one another, other than on the particular stat. If the Cats score a lot of points, that's good. But it doesn't, alone, mean the Cats are better than UM. There are other important factors.
You are the person with an issue of using a game in the past for comparison (specifically NAU), not other posters. You hold others to a different standard than you hold yourself too is all I am saying. Simply a perception.
When I'm trying to compare the stats of how the teams did against the best teams they played, I pick the best teams they played. Note that I chose SDSU. That was long ago.I do think that more recent games are more relevant. Also, games with more of the same key players playing (like McDowell in the case of UM). If you think the NAU loss is relevant, given that McDowell wasn't the qb, and it was before UM starting playing better, go for it. I hope your coaches point out to the team how badly MSU beat NAU and how NAU beat UM. That would be great from my point of view.
The MSU coaches don't waste their time on making useless comparisons, that's your MO and you're a real player in the field of comparing stats.
I will refrain from saying what Griz fans think MSU coaches waste their time on. I find it interesting that stats seem to trigger some people.
I see what you mean by some people get triggered by stats. I like how excited and triggered by stats you got that you had to come to your rivals fan board to share those stats. Most here who have seen your stats have pretty much responded with a meh. So yeah it is interesting how triggered you are about stats.
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Re: Griz (and some Cat) Info

Post by Joe Bobcat » Sat Nov 18, 2023 11:44 am

Cataholic wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2023 11:35 am
Joe Bobcat wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:16 am
Grizfan7 wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:00 pm
Joe Bobcat wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:46 pm
Grizfan7 wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:32 pm
The Butcher wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:10 pm
Grizfan7 wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:44 am
The Butcher wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:42 am
Grizfan7 wrote:
Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:23 am
Why were there 9 penalties at SDSU?
Grizfan7 wrote:
Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:23 am
Why do Cat fans ALWAYS want to bring up crap from months ago and not last week? It's funny...since we're bringing up crap from long ago (yes, even Idaho was light years ago right now)
According to your logic, you shouldn't look at SDSU due to it being played 'light years ago.' Unless you hold griz fans to a lower standard than Cat fans.
I'm happy to include or not include SDSU. If one is selecting the best teams MSU has played, then SDSU should be included. I agree that SDSU was long ago. I suppose it may or may not be relevant now. However, aren't most Cats trying to say that playing SDSU fairly close shows that the Cats are good?

You can pick what you want and do your stats. I'm happy to look at the stats. To me, the most relevant games for comparison of UM and MSU are Idaho and SS. But whatever. When I chose to do stats on the 3 best opponents, I wasn't necessarily trying to compare the two teams. I was just wondering how UM and MSU did in the games against the 3 best teams they played. I don't believe I initially made any comparisons of UM and MSU from those stats. I like to look at stats. I rarely try to use the stats to compare teams to one another, other than on the particular stat. If the Cats score a lot of points, that's good. But it doesn't, alone, mean the Cats are better than UM. There are other important factors.
You are the person with an issue of using a game in the past for comparison (specifically NAU), not other posters. You hold others to a different standard than you hold yourself too is all I am saying. Simply a perception.
When I'm trying to compare the stats of how the teams did against the best teams they played, I pick the best teams they played. Note that I chose SDSU. That was long ago.I do think that more recent games are more relevant. Also, games with more of the same key players playing (like McDowell in the case of UM). If you think the NAU loss is relevant, given that McDowell wasn't the qb, and it was before UM starting playing better, go for it. I hope your coaches point out to the team how badly MSU beat NAU and how NAU beat UM. That would be great from my point of view.
The MSU coaches don't waste their time on making useless comparisons, that's your MO and you're a real player in the field of comparing stats.
I will refrain from saying what Griz fans think MSU coaches waste their time on. I find it interesting that stats seem to trigger some people.
I see what you mean by some people get triggered by stats. I like how excited and triggered by stats you got that you had to come to your rivals fan board to share those stats. Most here who have seen your stats have pretty much responded with a meh. So yeah it is interesting how triggered you are about stats.
Grisfan7 won’t be answering this morning. He is head usher and making sure Haslam is aware how long the lines are.
Oh that's right :lol:


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