Ouch, that doesn't speak too highly of Rocky Long. Bobby didn't exactly prove that he's a coaching genius with his stint at UNLV, and we all know his personality flaws. Rocky must have dirt on somebody.

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Ouch, that doesn't speak too highly of Rocky Long. Bobby didn't exactly prove that he's a coaching genius with his stint at UNLV, and we all know his personality flaws. Rocky must have dirt on somebody.
Not that I think Bobby is some great coach, but has anybody done well at UNLV?BozoneCat wrote:Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:06 pmOuch, that doesn't speak too highly of Rocky Long. Bobby didn't exactly prove that he's a coaching genius with his stint at UNLV, and we all know his personality flaws. Rocky must have dirt on somebody.![]()
Clearly, no. UNLV is a coaching wasteland. But I still think that if you put someone, say Urban Meyer, over there, he'd find a way to build a successful program. Obviously (despite the fact that personally, I think he's kind of a dirtbag) there are very, very few coaches who are that level of good. But the program actually got worse while Hack was in charge, I think even if he had been marginally successful at improving their W-L record while he was there, it would have been a job well done. I think Hack does well in Missoula because of the advantages they have built in over there with their facilities, not because he's some great coach. Put him in Sacramento or Pocatello and I don't think he'd even sniff a .500 record.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:49 pmNot that I think Bobby is some great coach, but has anybody done well at UNLV?BozoneCat wrote:Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:06 pmOuch, that doesn't speak too highly of Rocky Long. Bobby didn't exactly prove that he's a coaching genius with his stint at UNLV, and we all know his personality flaws. Rocky must have dirt on somebody.![]()
I was curious about the SDSU rumor so I went to their fan forum. Basically one guy had a man crush on Hauck but even he thought Hauck was a better position coach than head coach
I really hate defending Bobby, but he has the best single season record at UNLV since 2000. Things fell off, but he's still a good coach.BozoneCat wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:34 pmClearly, no. UNLV is a coaching wasteland. But I still think that if you put someone, say Urban Meyer, over there, he'd find a way to build a successful program. Obviously (despite the fact that personally, I think he's kind of a dirtbag) there are very, very few coaches who are that level of good. But the program actually got worse while Hack was in charge, I think even if he had been marginally successful at improving their W-L record while he was there, it would have been a job well done. I think Hack does well in Missoula because of the advantages they have built in over there with their facilities, not because he's some great coach. Put him in Sacramento or Pocatello and I don't think he'd even sniff a .500 record.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:49 pmNot that I think Bobby is some great coach, but has anybody done well at UNLV?BozoneCat wrote:Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:06 pmOuch, that doesn't speak too highly of Rocky Long. Bobby didn't exactly prove that he's a coaching genius with his stint at UNLV, and we all know his personality flaws. Rocky must have dirt on somebody.![]()
That's fair, I know you're not saying that to be argumentative or anything. I just will agree to disagree. I don't think he left UNLV in better shape than he found it, and overall I would actually say a little worse. I think he's good at coaching special teams, and generally at UM his teams play hard & tough (with the glaring exception of Cat/griz this year, shockingly), but otherwise I don't think he's anything special. Seeing him on the opposing sideline doesn't scare me in the least as a Bobcat fan. He's awful in dealing with the press and other duties that a head coach has to do, anyone that doesn't drool in his lap and bend over for him, he treats with contempt and outright disgust - and that's a pretty important job for a head coach. His W-L record outside of Washington-Bobcat Stadium is actually not great, especially since his return. I'd be pissed and embarrassed if he were the head coach at Montana State, and I think Coach Choate is 10x the coach and 100x the man that Bobby is.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:32 pmI really hate defending Bobby, but he has the best single season record at UNLV since 2000. Things fell off, but he's still a good coach.BozoneCat wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:34 pmClearly, no. UNLV is a coaching wasteland. But I still think that if you put someone, say Urban Meyer, over there, he'd find a way to build a successful program. Obviously (despite the fact that personally, I think he's kind of a dirtbag) there are very, very few coaches who are that level of good. But the program actually got worse while Hack was in charge, I think even if he had been marginally successful at improving their W-L record while he was there, it would have been a job well done. I think Hack does well in Missoula because of the advantages they have built in over there with their facilities, not because he's some great coach. Put him in Sacramento or Pocatello and I don't think he'd even sniff a .500 record.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:49 pmNot that I think Bobby is some great coach, but has anybody done well at UNLV?BozoneCat wrote:Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:06 pmOuch, that doesn't speak too highly of Rocky Long. Bobby didn't exactly prove that he's a coaching genius with his stint at UNLV, and we all know his personality flaws. Rocky must have dirt on somebody.![]()
Well said!BozoneCat wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:56 pmThat's fair, I know you're not saying that to be argumentative or anything. I just will agree to disagree. I don't think he left UNLV in better shape than he found it, and overall I would actually say a little worse. I think he's good at coaching special teams, and generally at UM his teams play hard & tough (with the glaring exception of Cat/griz this year, shockingly), but otherwise I don't think he's anything special. Seeing him on the opposing sideline doesn't scare me in the least as a Bobcat fan. He's awful in dealing with the press and other duties that a head coach has to do, anyone that doesn't drool in his lap and bend over for him, he treats with contempt and outright disgust - and that's a pretty important job for a head coach. His W-L record outside of Washington-Bobcat Stadium is actually not great, especially since his return. I'd be pissed and embarrassed if he were the head coach at Montana State, and I think Coach Choate is 10x the coach and 100x the man that Bobby is.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:32 pmI really hate defending Bobby, but he has the best single season record at UNLV since 2000. Things fell off, but he's still a good coach.BozoneCat wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:34 pmClearly, no. UNLV is a coaching wasteland. But I still think that if you put someone, say Urban Meyer, over there, he'd find a way to build a successful program. Obviously (despite the fact that personally, I think he's kind of a dirtbag) there are very, very few coaches who are that level of good. But the program actually got worse while Hack was in charge, I think even if he had been marginally successful at improving their W-L record while he was there, it would have been a job well done. I think Hack does well in Missoula because of the advantages they have built in over there with their facilities, not because he's some great coach. Put him in Sacramento or Pocatello and I don't think he'd even sniff a .500 record.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:49 pmNot that I think Bobby is some great coach, but has anybody done well at UNLV?BozoneCat wrote:Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:06 pmOuch, that doesn't speak too highly of Rocky Long. Bobby didn't exactly prove that he's a coaching genius with his stint at UNLV, and we all know his personality flaws. Rocky must have dirt on somebody.![]()
I just heard a podcast with Riley Corcoran who confirmed what we were told. He was offered SDSU for a lot of $ and passed. Then renegotiated with UM.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:27 pmRocky Long and the people in the football department there loved Bobby. Personal knowledge goes a long way. They had Bobby and Brady on staff there, and preferred Bobby.Cataholic wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:36 pmAll good points. I don’t have any inside information, but it is very hard to believe. Have you ever talked to a colleague who “claims” they were offered a significantly better position elsewhere but they didn’t take it. In the back of your mind you are thinking that not only is this guy not qualified but he would never pass up that kind of opportunity? No disrespect to your sources, but Brady Hoke is ten times more qualified than Bobby for the SDSU head job. Just from a marketing perspective, do you think the SDSU fans would gladly welcome the guy who failed at lowly conference rival UNLV? Doesn’t make sense..ibleedblue wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:23 pmI definitely respect your knowledge and postings here but I can say with confidence you are incorrect on this one. It might not make a ton of sense from us as outsiders looking in but that doesn’t mean it didn’t or couldn’t have happened. I think many forget Hauck was the Associate Head Coach for SDSU (while also handling special teams). They supposedly loved him there and tried hard to keep him there when he was deciding to leave for Missoula. There has been plenty of discussion that this all took place in SDSU circles and in Missoula circles. I heard about it from friends prior to having it confirmed by Bobby’s sister.Cataholic wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:12 pmThat is an interesting bit of information on SDSU from Hauck’s sister, but there has been zero info publicly or even rumors surrounding the subject which would be highly unlikely. Also, Brady Hoke was hired for $1 million per year, but the last coach was making $900,000 per year.ibleedblue wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:41 pmMax $ he can make went up to 500k+ as compared to $380k prior. He has automatic bonuses built in for each year he stays, 35k, 40k, then 50k. More $ potential for playoff wins, FBS games, and national championship. Base salary went from 185k to 205k.
I know someone else stated SDSU was not after him. That is incorrect. He could have left to head coach at SDSU for over a million per year. He passed to stay in Missoula. This new negotiation was part of keeping him there. This was relayed directly to me and my wife from his sister (a good friend of my wife).
https://dailycaller.com/2020/02/10/san- ... 1-million/
Do you really think they bring the former failed UNLV coach for $1 million (more than the incumbent who was very successful), and also choose Hauck over a former Big 10 coach, current coordinator and also past successful coach at SDSU? It just doesn’t make sense. And the SDSU job is a good job. There is no way a Big Sky coach doesn’t jump at that opportunity...
I would believe his sister about as much as I would believe Bobby, about as far as I could throw them.ibleedblue wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:23 pmI definitely respect your knowledge and postings here but I can say with confidence you are incorrect on this one. It might not make a ton of sense from us as outsiders looking in but that doesn’t mean it didn’t or couldn’t have happened. I think many forget Hauck was the Associate Head Coach for SDSU (while also handling special teams). They supposedly loved him there and tried hard to keep him there when he was deciding to leave for Missoula. There has been plenty of discussion that this all took place in SDSU circles and in Missoula circles. I heard about it from friends prior to having it confirmed by Bobby’s sister.Cataholic wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:12 pmThat is an interesting bit of information on SDSU from Hauck’s sister, but there has been zero info publicly or even rumors surrounding the subject which would be highly unlikely. Also, Brady Hoke was hired for $1 million per year, but the last coach was making $900,000 per year.ibleedblue wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:41 pmMax $ he can make went up to 500k+ as compared to $380k prior. He has automatic bonuses built in for each year he stays, 35k, 40k, then 50k. More $ potential for playoff wins, FBS games, and national championship. Base salary went from 185k to 205k.
I know someone else stated SDSU was not after him. That is incorrect. He could have left to head coach at SDSU for over a million per year. He passed to stay in Missoula. This new negotiation was part of keeping him there. This was relayed directly to me and my wife from his sister (a good friend of my wife).
https://dailycaller.com/2020/02/10/san- ... 1-million/
Do you really think they bring the former failed UNLV coach for $1 million (more than the incumbent who was very successful), and also choose Hauck over a former Big 10 coach, current coordinator and also past successful coach at SDSU? It just doesn’t make sense. And the SDSU job is a good job. There is no way a Big Sky coach doesn’t jump at that opportunity...
Sounds more like he got offered, then told UM and then renegotiated. I don't think he passed on SDSU until after he talked to UM. He probably wouldn't have taken his son with him to SDSU and if he did his son probably doesn't beat out whoever's at SDSU, so that played into it.ibleedblue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:31 amI just heard a podcast with Riley Corcoran who confirmed what we were told. He was offered SDSU for a lot of $ and passed. Then renegotiated with UM.bobcat99 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:27 pmRocky Long and the people in the football department there loved Bobby. Personal knowledge goes a long way. They had Bobby and Brady on staff there, and preferred Bobby.Cataholic wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:36 pmAll good points. I don’t have any inside information, but it is very hard to believe. Have you ever talked to a colleague who “claims” they were offered a significantly better position elsewhere but they didn’t take it. In the back of your mind you are thinking that not only is this guy not qualified but he would never pass up that kind of opportunity? No disrespect to your sources, but Brady Hoke is ten times more qualified than Bobby for the SDSU head job. Just from a marketing perspective, do you think the SDSU fans would gladly welcome the guy who failed at lowly conference rival UNLV? Doesn’t make sense..ibleedblue wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:23 pmI definitely respect your knowledge and postings here but I can say with confidence you are incorrect on this one. It might not make a ton of sense from us as outsiders looking in but that doesn’t mean it didn’t or couldn’t have happened. I think many forget Hauck was the Associate Head Coach for SDSU (while also handling special teams). They supposedly loved him there and tried hard to keep him there when he was deciding to leave for Missoula. There has been plenty of discussion that this all took place in SDSU circles and in Missoula circles. I heard about it from friends prior to having it confirmed by Bobby’s sister.Cataholic wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:12 pmThat is an interesting bit of information on SDSU from Hauck’s sister, but there has been zero info publicly or even rumors surrounding the subject which would be highly unlikely. Also, Brady Hoke was hired for $1 million per year, but the last coach was making $900,000 per year.ibleedblue wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:41 pmMax $ he can make went up to 500k+ as compared to $380k prior. He has automatic bonuses built in for each year he stays, 35k, 40k, then 50k. More $ potential for playoff wins, FBS games, and national championship. Base salary went from 185k to 205k.
I know someone else stated SDSU was not after him. That is incorrect. He could have left to head coach at SDSU for over a million per year. He passed to stay in Missoula. This new negotiation was part of keeping him there. This was relayed directly to me and my wife from his sister (a good friend of my wife).
https://dailycaller.com/2020/02/10/san- ... 1-million/
Do you really think they bring the former failed UNLV coach for $1 million (more than the incumbent who was very successful), and also choose Hauck over a former Big 10 coach, current coordinator and also past successful coach at SDSU? It just doesn’t make sense. And the SDSU job is a good job. There is no way a Big Sky coach doesn’t jump at that opportunity...