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Re: Anyone interested. EWU/Towson on ESPNU

Post by grizatwork » Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:25 pm

RickRund wrote:Pretty much dominating the second half!!!!!

Now it looks like #1 vs #3.....What ever happened to the #2 seed????? :-^ :-^ :-^
Eastern Illinois beat by Towson I think?



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Post by grizatwork » Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:27 pm

Fascinating game. I like Baldwins killer instinct. Adams overthrew. Surprising that EWU could not stop a running team with a second team quarterback with under 2 minutes to play.



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Re: Anyone interested. EWU/Towson on ESPNU

Post by PapaG » Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:22 pm

Adams blows one of the easiest TD passes he's had all year, and the Cougars Coug-it in their bowl game. Not a fun day for the people of the Palouse.


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Re: Anyone interested. EWU/Towson on ESPNU

Post by codecat » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:02 pm

91catAlum wrote:
catbooster wrote:Eastern trying to score after getting the ball on a turnover with abut 2:00 min left in the half.

What's the idea there? Aren't you supposed to kneel on it if there's only a few minutes left in the half?
Wow they blew that! VA has GOT to throw the ball there, you cannot run it and risk being tackled and the clock runs out. Which is what happened.

I'm watching on DVR, just started 3rd qtr.

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I suppose there are more than a few valid ways to spin this but my take on it was that this time Aggressive play calling bit Baldwin in the behind. It would have been an easy call to kick a field goal on their final possession, instead of going for it on 4th down, in order to make it a two possession game.


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Post by TomCat88 » Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:41 am

I wouldn't be surprised if more people in Montana were interested in this game than Washington.


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Re: Anyone interested. EWU/Towson on ESPNU

Post by gtapp » Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:11 pm

codecat wrote:
91catAlum wrote:
catbooster wrote:Eastern trying to score after getting the ball on a turnover with abut 2:00 min left in the half.

What's the idea there? Aren't you supposed to kneel on it if there's only a few minutes left in the half?
Wow they blew that! VA has GOT to throw the ball there, you cannot run it and risk being tackled and the clock runs out. Which is what happened.

I'm watching on DVR, just started 3rd qtr.

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I suppose there are more than a few valid ways to spin this but my take on it was that this time Aggressive play calling bit Baldwin in the behind. It would have been an easy call to kick a field goal on their final possession, instead of going for it on 4th down, in order to make it a two possession game.
EWU was only up by 3 so the FG would not help except to force Towson to score a TD. Plus you run the risk of a block or a miss (which gives Towson even better field position.


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Re: Anyone interested. EWU/Towson on ESPNU

Post by codecat » Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:25 pm

gtapp wrote:
codecat wrote:
91catAlum wrote:
catbooster wrote:Eastern trying to score after getting the ball on a turnover with abut 2:00 min left in the half.

What's the idea there? Aren't you supposed to kneel on it if there's only a few minutes left in the half?
Wow they blew that! VA has GOT to throw the ball there, you cannot run it and risk being tackled and the clock runs out. Which is what happened.

I'm watching on DVR, just started 3rd qtr.

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I suppose there are more than a few valid ways to spin this but my take on it was that this time Aggressive play calling bit Baldwin in the behind. It would have been an easy call to kick a field goal on their final possession, instead of going for it on 4th down, in order to make it a two possession game.
EWU was only up by 3 so the FG would not help except to force Towson to score a TD. Plus you run the risk of a block or a miss (which gives Towson even better field position.
My point was that if EWU had gone for the field goal at the end of the first half, they would have been up by 6 a the point of their final drive when they went for it on fourth down on the Towson 29 with 1:40 left on the clock - they would only have needed a field goal to make their lead a two possession game.


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Re: Anyone interested. EWU/Towson on ESPNU

Post by John K » Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:42 pm

codecat wrote:
gtapp wrote:
codecat wrote:
91catAlum wrote:
catbooster wrote:Eastern trying to score after getting the ball on a turnover with abut 2:00 min left in the half.

What's the idea there? Aren't you supposed to kneel on it if there's only a few minutes left in the half?
Wow they blew that! VA has GOT to throw the ball there, you cannot run it and risk being tackled and the clock runs out. Which is what happened.

I'm watching on DVR, just started 3rd qtr.

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I suppose there are more than a few valid ways to spin this but my take on it was that this time Aggressive play calling bit Baldwin in the behind. It would have been an easy call to kick a field goal on their final possession, instead of going for it on 4th down, in order to make it a two possession game.
EWU was only up by 3 so the FG would not help except to force Towson to score a TD. Plus you run the risk of a block or a miss (which gives Towson even better field position.
My point was that if EWU had gone for the field goal at the end of the first half, they would have been up by 6 a the point of their final drive when they went for it on fourth down on the Towson 29 with 1:40 left on the clock - they would only have needed a field goal to make their lead a two possession game.
That's a good point, but I don't really fault them for going for the TD at the end of the half. They are supremely confident in their offense, with good reason, and they should have had enough time for one more play and a FG attempt, if Adams had thrown the ball, instead of running. Although I don't really fault Adams either, because it looked like he had a fairly clear shot at the EZ, but the defense closed that opening very quickly. Sometimes s**t just happens. That had to be a devastating loss for EWU though. They outgained Towson by 100 yards, and could easily have had two more TD, which would have given them a 10-point win. Oh well, this way they'll be spared a beatdown at the hands of NDSU.



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Re: Anyone interested. EWU/Towson on ESPNU

Post by LTown Cat » Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:29 pm

I didn't watch the entire game but from what I saw I thought Towson actually appeared faster than EWU which surprised me. Did you guys get that impression?



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Re: Anyone interested. EWU/Towson on ESPNU

Post by marceag » Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:23 pm

John K wrote:
codecat wrote:
gtapp wrote:
codecat wrote:
91catAlum wrote:
catbooster wrote:Eastern trying to score after getting the ball on a turnover with abut 2:00 min left in the half.

What's the idea there? Aren't you supposed to kneel on it if there's only a few minutes left in the half?
Wow they blew that! VA has GOT to throw the ball there, you cannot run it and risk being tackled and the clock runs out. Which is what happened.

I'm watching on DVR, just started 3rd qtr.

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I suppose there are more than a few valid ways to spin this but my take on it was that this time Aggressive play calling bit Baldwin in the behind. It would have been an easy call to kick a field goal on their final possession, instead of going for it on 4th down, in order to make it a two possession game.
EWU was only up by 3 so the FG would not help except to force Towson to score a TD. Plus you run the risk of a block or a miss (which gives Towson even better field position.
My point was that if EWU had gone for the field goal at the end of the first half, they would have been up by 6 a the point of their final drive when they went for it on fourth down on the Towson 29 with 1:40 left on the clock - they would only have needed a field goal to make their lead a two possession game.
That's a good point, but I don't really fault them for going for the TD at the end of the half. They are supremely confident in their offense, with good reason, and they should have had enough time for one more play and a FG attempt, if Adams had thrown the ball, instead of running. Although I don't really fault Adams either, because it looked like he had a fairly clear shot at the EZ, but the defense closed that opening very quickly. Sometimes s**t just happens. That had to be a devastating loss for EWU though. They outgained Towson by 100 yards, and could easily have had two more TD, which would have given them a 10-point win. Oh well, this way they'll be spared a beatdown at the hands of NDSU.
Eastern had been setting up the 4th and 2 play all game long and ran the play to perfection, VA just overthrew Kupp or Kupp would have walked into the end zone. Tough Break, heart breaker of a loss, but EWU will be back and probably better in 2014.

Hope the Cats are able to reload and I'm sure will have another great year in the Big Sky...



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Re: Anyone interested. EWU/Towson on ESPNU

Post by grizatwork » Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:14 pm

marceag wrote:
John K wrote:
codecat wrote:
gtapp wrote:
codecat wrote:
91catAlum wrote:
catbooster wrote:Eastern trying to score after getting the ball on a turnover with abut 2:00 min left in the half.

What's the idea there? Aren't you supposed to kneel on it if there's only a few minutes left in the half?
Wow they blew that! VA has GOT to throw the ball there, you cannot run it and risk being tackled and the clock runs out. Which is what happened.

I'm watching on DVR, just started 3rd qtr.

Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk 2
I suppose there are more than a few valid ways to spin this but my take on it was that this time Aggressive play calling bit Baldwin in the behind. It would have been an easy call to kick a field goal on their final possession, instead of going for it on 4th down, in order to make it a two possession game.
EWU was only up by 3 so the FG would not help except to force Towson to score a TD. Plus you run the risk of a block or a miss (which gives Towson even better field position.
My point was that if EWU had gone for the field goal at the end of the first half, they would have been up by 6 a the point of their final drive when they went for it on fourth down on the Towson 29 with 1:40 left on the clock - they would only have needed a field goal to make their lead a two possession game.
That's a good point, but I don't really fault them for going for the TD at the end of the half. They are supremely confident in their offense, with good reason, and they should have had enough time for one more play and a FG attempt, if Adams had thrown the ball, instead of running. Although I don't really fault Adams either, because it looked like he had a fairly clear shot at the EZ, but the defense closed that opening very quickly. Sometimes s**t just happens. That had to be a devastating loss for EWU though. They outgained Towson by 100 yards, and could easily have had two more TD, which would have given them a 10-point win. Oh well, this way they'll be spared a beatdown at the hands of NDSU.
Eastern had been setting up the 4th and 2 play all game long and ran the play to perfection, VA just overthrew Kupp or Kupp would have walked into the end zone. Tough Break, heart breaker of a loss, but EWU will be back and probably better in 2014.

Hope the Cats are able to reload and I'm sure will have another great year in the Big Sky...
I still love the call. Baldwin has no fear and it show's in his players. I truly believe the main reason EWU has been so good is that Baldwin's attitude rubs off on his players and they play with the same confidence and lack of fear.



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Re: Anyone interested. EWU/Towson on ESPNU

Post by catdaddy7 » Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:49 pm

grizatwork wrote:
marceag wrote:
John K wrote:
codecat wrote:
gtapp wrote:
codecat wrote:
91catAlum wrote:
catbooster wrote:Eastern trying to score after getting the ball on a turnover with abut 2:00 min left in the half.

What's the idea there? Aren't you supposed to kneel on it if there's only a few minutes left in the half?
Wow they blew that! VA has GOT to throw the ball there, you cannot run it and risk being tackled and the clock runs out. Which is what happened.

I'm watching on DVR, just started 3rd qtr.

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I suppose there are more than a few valid ways to spin this but my take on it was that this time Aggressive play calling bit Baldwin in the behind. It would have been an easy call to kick a field goal on their final possession, instead of going for it on 4th down, in order to make it a two possession game.
EWU was only up by 3 so the FG would not help except to force Towson to score a TD. Plus you run the risk of a block or a miss (which gives Towson even better field position.
My point was that if EWU had gone for the field goal at the end of the first half, they would have been up by 6 a the point of their final drive when they went for it on fourth down on the Towson 29 with 1:40 left on the clock - they would only have needed a field goal to make their lead a two possession game.
That's a good point, but I don't really fault them for going for the TD at the end of the half. They are supremely confident in their offense, with good reason, and they should have had enough time for one more play and a FG attempt, if Adams had thrown the ball, instead of running. Although I don't really fault Adams either, because it looked like he had a fairly clear shot at the EZ, but the defense closed that opening very quickly. Sometimes s**t just happens. That had to be a devastating loss for EWU though. They outgained Towson by 100 yards, and could easily have had two more TD, which would have given them a 10-point win. Oh well, this way they'll be spared a beatdown at the hands of NDSU.
Eastern had been setting up the 4th and 2 play all game long and ran the play to perfection, VA just overthrew Kupp or Kupp would have walked into the end zone. Tough Break, heart breaker of a loss, but EWU will be back and probably better in 2014.

Hope the Cats are able to reload and I'm sure will have another great year in the Big Sky...
I still love the call. Baldwin has no fear and it show's in his players. I truly believe the main reason EWU has been so good is that Baldwin's attitude rubs off on his players and they play with the same confidence and lack of fear.
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Re: Anyone interested. EWU/Towson on ESPNU

Post by talon38 » Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:59 am

As far as the 4th down and 2 play EWU attempted from the Towson 28 yard line with 1:40 to go in the game, it was a PERFECT play call. Cupp ran a quick 7 yard curl, both the Corner and safety bit on it, then he streaked for a post and was open by 4-5 yards, and QB Vernon Adams just didn't either put enough air on the ball, or just flat overthrew him by about a foot. Cupp actually tried to tip the ball to himself in mid-air, but it just didn't happen. That would have been game ending, not to mention the failed TD right before halftime that ended on the 1 foot line. Tough-tough loss, I feel the better team lost! But you have to give credit to Towson for going down and scoring 2 TD's in the 4th, the last with :17 seconds left in the game. Good luck to them in the Championship vs NDSU. See the Bobcats in Sept. of 2014 in Bozeman.



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