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Re: Depth Chart / Starters

Post by catatac » Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:49 am

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I think by the middle of the season it’s going to be Troy, Josh (with Kanow taking reps to manage Hill’s pitch count) and Askelson as our top 3 linebackers.
Don't forget we for sure need someone managing Troy's pitch count as well.


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Re: Depth Chart / Starters

Post by Caturday » Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:54 am

Hopefully this is the year we finally have enough depth in the LB corps to plug and play without a huge drop off in play between the 1’s and 2’s.



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Re: Depth Chart / Starters

Post by iaafan » Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:02 am

I don’t see Schneider or Speigelberg on the online roster.



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Re: Depth Chart / Starters

Post by wbtfg » Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:06 am

iaafan wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:02 am
I don’t see Schneider or Speigelberg on the online roster.
I think Schneider and the other Helena kid were removed from the team this winter/spring.


Side note, does it drive anyone else crazy that we have people listed as "Cornerback" "CB" "Defensive Back" "Safety" and "S"? The secondary is the worst, but it's similar for the OL and DL positions as well.
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Re: Depth Chart / Starters

Post by VimSince03 » Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:10 am

iaafan wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:02 am
I don’t see Schneider or Speigelberg on the online roster.
Seth didn't make the team after spring. Speigelberg and Joe Olson are two freshman running backs who got hurt in their high school all-star games this summer. Speigelberg may greyshirt or joint the team when school starts.


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Re: Depth Chart / Starters

Post by CelticCat » Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:16 am

Some weights I've gleaned from articles in the past few days form 406 Sports:

Bryce Sterk is up to 260
Benson is 280
Brott is 290
Tuiasosopo is 329
Kidd is 319
Connor Wood is 302
Redd is 285


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Re: Depth Chart / Starters

Post by AFCAT » Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:19 am

CelticCat wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:16 am
Some weights I've gleaned from articles in the past few days form 406 Sports:

Bryce Sterk is up to 260
Benson is 280
Brott is 290
Tuiasosopo is 329
Kidd is 319
Connor Wood is 302
Redd is 285
Chad Kanow is at 235.


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Re: Depth Chart / Starters

Post by bobcat99 » Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:04 am

When it comes to LB, I hope that the three main players are Andersen, Hill, and Askelson.

Now with Hill, we don't know how much he can play, and Andersen might have limited defensive snaps too.

I think Jobman is a good backup and average at best starter. Dependable, but doesn't make any plays.

Chad Kanow is interesting. Really good freshman year, last year he struggled bc of injury. He's up to 235 now...has he retained his burst? Either way, if he's a backup, you're in good shape.

Callahan sounds like he's doing well at Mike, Hardy is athletic as all get out but does he have the mental part down? Gilman just screams playmaker to me. Lot of depth. It's a really good unit.



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Re: Depth Chart / Starters

Post by Montanabob » Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:07 am

catatac wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:49 am
Caturday wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:01 am
I think by the middle of the season it’s going to be Troy, Josh (with Kanow taking reps to manage Hill’s pitch count) and Askelson as our top 3 linebackers.
Don't forget we for sure need someone managing Troy's pitch count as well.
I think it will be about 90 a game.


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Re: Depth Chart / Starters

Post by Mr Lisle » Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:39 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:10 am
iaafan wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:02 am
I don’t see Schneider or Speigelberg on the online roster.
Seth didn't make the team after spring. Speigelberg and Joe Olson are two freshman running backs who got hurt in their high school all-star games this summer. Speigelberg may greyshirt or joint the team when school starts.
I know these all star games are supposed to be a big honor, but I believe the time has come to close them out. I started in the Shrine game in Great Falls, got a leg injury and arrived in Bozeman on a full scholarship unfit for service. We had a running back heading for Stanford who got a knee injury. He was never the same and was gone from Stanford after his freshman season. You have supposedly the best vs. the best and that's just not the case. Some of the guys on our "all-star" team would not have started on my high school team. Basic offenses and defenses are put in in a hurry. Missed blocks and other mix-ups, the general lack of ability to make real adjustments, etc. etc. put guys in bad places/situations. If I remember right that game started in about 1951. I'll bet the number of career ending or dimmishing injuries in the nearly 70 years of that game are unbelievable.
Think of it as another version of the annual Bobcat spring game. How many guys have we lost outright in those games? I don't even think Choate likes them.



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Re: Depth Chart / Starters

Post by BLACKnBLUEnGOLD » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:07 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
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Twice as many outside linebackers as middle linebackers. Same amount of outside linebackers as inside linebackers. Look! I’m getting it. Kinda like Navin Johnson learning to dance with his family in The Jerk.
Actually it's because OLBs in some schemes do a lot of defensive end things.


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Re: Depth Chart / Starters

Post by CelticCat » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:09 am

More updated weights in here http://406mtsports.com/college/big-sky- ... 9a630.html

Troy is up to 240 apparently... he is going to kill some poor WRs or RBs in this league.


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Re: Depth Chart / Starters

Post by Caturday » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:07 am

Are we going to see a depth chart released this week or will we have to wait another week for game week?



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Re: Depth Chart / Starters

Post by VimSince03 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:13 am

Caturday wrote:
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Are we going to see a depth chart released this week or will we have to wait another week for game week?
Probably will have to wait until Monday of game week.


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Re: Depth Chart / Starters

Post by cats2506 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:55 am

I thought I heard coach say something in the presser after the scrimmage that makes me think almost all the 1's have been decided, There are still some 2's and 3's to be determined and they will likely hinge on special teams and the versatility of the player.

How many can travel to TT? usually the non-conference games and FBS games are able to travel more than a BSC game


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Re: Depth Chart / Starters

Post by iaafan » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:05 am

cats2506 wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:55 am
I thought I heard coach say something in the presser after the scrimmage that makes me think almost all the 1's have been decided, There are still some 2's and 3's to be determined and they will likely hinge on special teams and the versatility of the player.

How many can travel to TT? usually the non-conference games and FBS games are able to travel more than a BSC game
I don’t think the ILBs have been determined. I kinda hope Martin, if he’s an ILB, goes there from RB. Or that Hardy plays Sam and Andersen moves inside.



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Re: Depth Chart / Starters

Post by bobcat99 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:13 am

iaafan wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:05 am
cats2506 wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:55 am
I thought I heard coach say something in the presser after the scrimmage that makes me think almost all the 1's have been decided, There are still some 2's and 3's to be determined and they will likely hinge on special teams and the versatility of the player.

How many can travel to TT? usually the non-conference games and FBS games are able to travel more than a BSC game
I don’t think the ILBs have been determined. I kinda hope Martin, if he’s an ILB, goes there from RB. Or that Hardy plays Sam and Andersen moves inside.
Why move Andersen inside?



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Re: Depth Chart / Starters

Post by VimSince03 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:19 am

bobcat99 wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:13 am
iaafan wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:05 am
cats2506 wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:55 am
I thought I heard coach say something in the presser after the scrimmage that makes me think almost all the 1's have been decided, There are still some 2's and 3's to be determined and they will likely hinge on special teams and the versatility of the player.

How many can travel to TT? usually the non-conference games and FBS games are able to travel more than a BSC game
I don’t think the ILBs have been determined. I kinda hope Martin, if he’s an ILB, goes there from RB. Or that Hardy plays Sam and Andersen moves inside.
Why move Andersen inside?
You take away many of the things Andersen does well by moving him inside. He's a perfect fit at Sam linebacker. Here is my list of Troy's positional value:

1) SLB
2) RB
3) Buck
4) SS
5) QB
6) TE/Slot WR
7) DE
8.) FS
9) WLB
10) MLB
11) Outside WR
12) DT
13) OL
14) K/P


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Re: Depth Chart / Starters

Post by seataccat » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:34 am

VimSince03 wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:19 am
bobcat99 wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:13 am
iaafan wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:05 am
cats2506 wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:55 am
I thought I heard coach say something in the presser after the scrimmage that makes me think almost all the 1's have been decided, There are still some 2's and 3's to be determined and they will likely hinge on special teams and the versatility of the player.

How many can travel to TT? usually the non-conference games and FBS games are able to travel more than a BSC game
I don’t think the ILBs have been determined. I kinda hope Martin, if he’s an ILB, goes there from RB. Or that Hardy plays Sam and Andersen moves inside.
Why move Andersen inside?
You take away many of the things Andersen does well by moving him inside. He's a perfect fit at Sam linebacker. Here is my list of Troy's positional value:

1) SLB
2) RB
3) Buck
4) SS
5) QB
6) TE/Slot WR
7) DE
8.) FS
9) WLB
10) MLB
11) Outside WR
12) DT
13) OL
14) K/P
Wow, have we ever had someone at MSU that you could discuss in terms like that? I would not question Vim's knowledge but here is where I would put Troy. Obviously, I wouldn't make a very good D coordinator.

1) Buck if we didn't have Williams and Sterk
2) WLB
3) SS
4) FS
5) Slot


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Re: Depth Chart / Starters

Post by RobertCats » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:50 am

cats2506 wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:55 am
I thought I heard coach say something in the presser after the scrimmage that makes me think almost all the 1's have been decided, There are still some 2's and 3's to be determined and they will likely hinge on special teams and the versatility of the player.

How many can travel to TT? usually the non-conference games and FBS games are able to travel more than a BSC game
Sounds like the coaches met with all the players yesterday and they discussed roles and I imagine whether they redshirt or not. I would think after these conversations that the depth charts are basically finalized but I doubt we see anything until game week. Here is a blurb about it from Greg Rachac in an article about the scrimmage.
Sunday is “roll call” day for the team, meaning the coaches will meet with each player individually to clarify roles and explain expectations. The Bobcats will return to practice Monday to begin its “mock” game-week preparation for their Aug. 31 opener at Texas Tech.
http://406mtsports.com/college/big-sky- ... 76526.html



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