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We aren't the only ones losing players

Post by GrizgradCatFan » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:19 am

I see the griz just lost their fourth player. Any insight as to whats going on over there? I try to stay off griz nation to hear, but just curious.



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Post by wbtfg » Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:13 am

GrizgradCatFan wrote:I see the griz just lost their fourth player. Any insight as to whats going on over there? I try to stay off griz nation to hear, but just curious.
Who did they lose?


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Re: We aren't the only ones losing players

Post by GrizgradCatFan » Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:43 am

They lost Karl now. Will be interesting to see as he was one guy who I thought had some major potential as a freshman. Too many big guys in front of him and tough from being the man in highschool to not playing all the time in college I guess. I bet the eps kid wished he would have come here. We could have used him next year.



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Post by RickRund » Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:50 pm

GrizgradCatFan wrote:They lost Karl now. Will be interesting to see as he was one guy who I thought had some major potential as a freshman. Too many big guys in front of him and tough from being the man in highschool to not playing all the time in college I guess. I bet the eps kid wished he would have come here. We could have used him next year.
Would some of these ever think of coming here? Or maybe they just don't have "that thing" that many thought? Just curious as you all are closer to their qualifications/potential than I am. Thoughts please.


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Re: We aren't the only ones losing players

Post by Grizaddict » Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:34 pm

The 3 Freshman they lost (espe, beslovic, bevens) saw the writing on the wall with the folks who are still coming back that they would literally never see the floor.....again. The one that hurts a little bit is Freshman phenom Nicholas. You may remember him, he played 20 minutes against the Cats in Missoula and scored 17. He averaged about 9 mins per game and broke the rotation as a true freshman. Toward the end of the season, he didn't see the floor and sat out 2 to 3 games in a row. Word on the street is he had a pretty bad attitude and wasn't quite buying into the culture that Coach Decuire was trying to implement. He showed that from the bench toward the end of the season as well, you could just tell he wasn't into it. He would have been a star in the Big Sky. I wish them all well.



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Post by mslacat » Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:49 pm

I mentioned this before, but it is getting more and more difficult in the Big Sky to keep good young players. It used to be freshman waited their time to make major contributions to their team. Not only do young players want to play now, they want to start now! This goes for the men's and women's game. When Laura Prather (who I think was one of Bindfors strongest recruit in the past couple years) announced her transfer I wondered how much the the fact she was playing behind two Sophomore (jr to be) PF (Smith and Braxton) this year and next year two possibly even better forwards were becoming eligible, (transfers Lundberg, Kruderer) and then this spring we land North Dakota Big Sky transfer Freigi, who also plays the same position as Prather. I think the Griz men are in a similar position, but because they were so good last year and only graduated a single player off that team, a lot of younger players saw their opportunity to shine with the Griz a little further down the road than they wanted.

One note I want to mention though. It is very difficult sometimes to tell when a player by his own accord has decided to transfer and when a player has been, pushed out or cut by a coach



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Re: We aren't the only ones losing players

Post by Montanabob » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:20 pm

RickRund wrote:
GrizgradCatFan wrote:They lost Karl now. Will be interesting to see as he was one guy who I thought had some major potential as a freshman. Too many big guys in front of him and tough from being the man in highschool to not playing all the time in college I guess. I bet the eps kid wished he would have come here. We could have used him next year.
Would some of these ever think of coming here? Or maybe they just don't have "that thing" that many thought? Just curious as you all are closer to their qualifications/potential than I am. Thoughts please.
Transfer to another BSC school is automatic one year no playing time. If they think about starting in the fall it's not in the BSC.


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Re: We aren't the only ones losing players

Post by RickRund » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:39 pm

Montanabob wrote:
RickRund wrote:
GrizgradCatFan wrote:They lost Karl now. Will be interesting to see as he was one guy who I thought had some major potential as a freshman. Too many big guys in front of him and tough from being the man in highschool to not playing all the time in college I guess. I bet the eps kid wished he would have come here. We could have used him next year.
Would some of these ever think of coming here? Or maybe they just don't have "that thing" that many thought? Just curious as you all are closer to their qualifications/potential than I am. Thoughts please.
Transfer to another BSC school is automatic one year no playing time. If they think about starting in the fall it's not in the BSC.
Ooooook. Was not aware of that.


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Post by mslacat » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:42 pm

Montanabob wrote:
RickRund wrote:
GrizgradCatFan wrote:They lost Karl now. Will be interesting to see as he was one guy who I thought had some major potential as a freshman. Too many big guys in front of him and tough from being the man in highschool to not playing all the time in college I guess. I bet the eps kid wished he would have come here. We could have used him next year.
Would some of these ever think of coming here? Or maybe they just don't have "that thing" that many thought? Just curious as you all are closer to their qualifications/potential than I am. Thoughts please.
Transfer to another BSC school is automatic one year no playing time. If they think about starting in the fall it's not in the BSC.
Too avoid that younger players seem to be checking out JC's. After a year at a JC they can go any where they want.



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Post by CelticCat » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:51 pm

When you really think about it, you have only a few years to really play a game you love - 99% won't be playing in any sort of professional league after they graduate.

So why sit around for 3 years hardly seeing the court, so you can be a starter for 1, maybe 2 years, when you could go somewhere and start for 3 or even 4? You aren't going to the pros, you will get a degree no matter where you end up.

I'm not saying that's how I would be, I'm a bit more loyal than that, but I can't blame someone for trying to maximize the few years they have left to play a game they presumably love.


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Post by imacat » Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:57 am

The fact that they will not be able to make basketball a career makes the academic side even more important IMO. Your major, your GPA and what school you get the degree from does make a difference.


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Re: We aren't the only ones losing players

Post by GrizgradCatFan » Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:18 pm

And they lose another. Their whole bench will be new recruits



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Re: We aren't the only ones losing players

Post by BLACKnBLUEnGOLD » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:40 am

The Griz are winning, and I think that matters. You'd like continuity on your bench from year to year, but winning trumps continuity. Kentucky gets like eight new guys every year, but it's fine because they win.

The Cats aren't winning, and they're still hemorrhaging guys. Is Fish indicating to his players that the spots in the lineup/rotation are filled, that he's sticking with the players he lost with last year and not even considering competition/changes? Are the players he's recruiting just incapable of making the rotation at a D1 level? It kinda makes you think.

I mean, Devonte Klines declared for the draft. He's a Bobcat, and therefore I support him, and I don't want to badmouth the guy, but Devonte Klines is not an NBA player. There's no pipeline of six-foot defensive specialists in the Big Sky going to the NBA. I'll be the first to celebrate if he starts one, but it ain't happening. Maybe there's a story behind this that I don't know, like he has family who need money right now and interest from teams in Europe where he can make that money. And if he's sacrificing the chance for a degree to take care of something like that, it's an understandable choice. It just doesn't seem like a thing that happens a lot in healthy programs, is all I'm saying.


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