Is it trolling, or is it just Coach Hauck doing his job thoroughly? I certainly hope Coach Vigen is making offers to any Montana player he thinks is worthy of a spot, even if that player has strong existing family ties to the UM program and is likely to go there over MSU. You never know, some kids have "flipped" to the other school in the past and a lot can happen in the next year to potentially affect a player's decision making process.mslacatfan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:42 pmI remember hauck did the same thing with jory Choate, he might have even requested an in home visit if I remember correctly…. Hahaha
I absolutely hate coach hauck….. but this is some pretty solid trolling.
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Offering kids with strong ties to the rival is smart, especially if you can get them to flip. Offering the rival's head coaches kid is trolling. Funny, but definitely trolling.MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:58 pmIs it trolling, or is it just Coach Hauck doing his job thoroughly? I certainly hope Coach Vigen is making offers to any Montana player he thinks is worthy of a spot, even if that player has strong existing family ties to the UM program and is likely to go there over MSU. You never know, some kids have "flipped" to the other school in the past and a lot can happen in the next year to potentially affect a player's decision making process.mslacatfan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:42 pmI remember hauck did the same thing with jory Choate, he might have even requested an in home visit if I remember correctly…. Hahaha
I absolutely hate coach hauck….. but this is some pretty solid trolling.
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100% trolling.
Which is hilarious. It makes my hate for him drop from a 10 to a 9.8
Which is hilarious. It makes my hate for him drop from a 10 to a 9.8
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I disagree it’s trolling and more a sign of respect. He wants the best players in the state. If this kid falls into that, then he should get a Griz and Cats offer. Anything less is not doing your job well.
Where there could be a funny move though is them offering him first. That was pretty great IMO.
Also there’s always a chance Vigen leaves for a different job next year or in future so offering this kid makes even more sense if you’re trying to secure the top talent in state.
Where there could be a funny move though is them offering him first. That was pretty great IMO.
Also there’s always a chance Vigen leaves for a different job next year or in future so offering this kid makes even more sense if you’re trying to secure the top talent in state.
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I mean, Missoula has been very Portland-esque for quite some time now. Obviously with fewer riots.St George wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:46 amI would not want my kid living in Portland. As much as I hate the gris, I'd pick living in Missoula over Portland.Montanabob wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 6:53 pmif you remember, he got PSU Coaches kid.mslacatfan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:42 pmI remember hauck did the same thing with jory Choate, he might have even requested an in home visit if I remember correctly…. Hahaha
I absolutely hate coach hauck….. but this is some pretty solid trolling.
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Missoula isn’t anything like Portland. Portland is bad, really bad. I’d take Missoula every time over Portland.MTmadeCat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:13 pmI mean, Missoula has been very Portland-esque for quite some time now. Obviously with fewer riots.St George wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:46 amI would not want my kid living in Portland. As much as I hate the gris, I'd pick living in Missoula over Portland.Montanabob wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 6:53 pmif you remember, he got PSU Coaches kid.mslacatfan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:42 pmI remember hauck did the same thing with jory Choate, he might have even requested an in home visit if I remember correctly…. Hahaha
I absolutely hate coach hauck….. but this is some pretty solid trolling.
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Owen Reynolds, this year, for example. This is a big difference I have noticed between Choate’s staff & Vigen’s. If Choate wanted a Montana kid, scholarship or walk on, he was gonna do everything he could to try and get him. Owen stated that he grew up a Bobcat fan coming to games here, but the griz offered him and contacted him more frequently and showed more interest. How does Vigen/staff give an in state kid an offer (any offer) and get outcompeted for him by um? It’s my belief that if you believe a Montana kid is good enough to suit up here and extend ANY offer, you do everything you can to get him on our side.MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:58 pmIs it trolling, or is it just Coach Hauck doing his job thoroughly? I certainly hope Coach Vigen is making offers to any Montana player he thinks is worthy of a spot, even if that player has strong existing family ties to the UM program and is likely to go there over MSU. You never know, some kids have "flipped" to the other school in the past and a lot can happen in the next year to potentially affect a player's decision making process.mslacatfan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:42 pmI remember hauck did the same thing with jory Choate, he might have even requested an in home visit if I remember correctly…. Hahaha
I absolutely hate coach hauck….. but this is some pretty solid trolling.
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600k more people and it’s not terribly far off. The artsy, hippy nature along with the homelessness, love for every new microbrew, and man buns with chaco’s and Carhartt pants rolled up to the shins is enough for me. I stay clear of both places as much as possible.CodyCat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:18 pmMissoula isn’t anything like Portland. Portland is bad, really bad. I’d take Missoula every time over Portland.MTmadeCat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:13 pmI mean, Missoula has been very Portland-esque for quite some time now. Obviously with fewer riots.St George wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:46 amI would not want my kid living in Portland. As much as I hate the gris, I'd pick living in Missoula over Portland.Montanabob wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 6:53 pmif you remember, he got PSU Coaches kid.mslacatfan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:42 pmI remember hauck did the same thing with jory Choate, he might have even requested an in home visit if I remember correctly…. Hahaha
I absolutely hate coach hauck….. but this is some pretty solid trolling.
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He'd be the biggest safety in the league at 6'-6" and he's probably a few 10ths over safety speed.
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I don't think Hauck is trolling because I think Grant Vigen has huge potential as a QB. He's a big, strong dude, who just needs time to grow into his frame. I haven't seen any of his hoop highlights this year. He's not Ryan Leaf athletic-wise but fairly athletic. It'll be interesting to see how much he develops this coming season.
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Happens all the time on both sides. Rylan Ortt plays for the Cats even though his family members were gris fans and actually played there. RJ Fitzgerald’s dad played for the gris and RJ grew up a gris fan.MTmadeCat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:22 pmOwen Reynolds, this year, for example. This is a big difference I have noticed between Choate’s staff & Vigen’s. If Choate wanted a Montana kid, scholarship or walk on, he was gonna do everything he could to try and get him. Owen stated that he grew up a Bobcat fan coming to games here, but the griz offered him and contacted him more frequently and showed more interest. How does Vigen/staff give an in state kid an offer (any offer) and get outcompeted for him by um? It’s my belief that if you believe a Montana kid is good enough to suit up here and extend ANY offer, you do everything you can to get him on our side.MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:58 pmIs it trolling, or is it just Coach Hauck doing his job thoroughly? I certainly hope Coach Vigen is making offers to any Montana player he thinks is worthy of a spot, even if that player has strong existing family ties to the UM program and is likely to go there over MSU. You never know, some kids have "flipped" to the other school in the past and a lot can happen in the next year to potentially affect a player's decision making process.mslacatfan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:42 pmI remember hauck did the same thing with jory Choate, he might have even requested an in home visit if I remember correctly…. Hahaha
I absolutely hate coach hauck….. but this is some pretty solid trolling.
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I believe CatBot is joking.
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Bobbi seems to have successfully trolled BN at the very least.
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I gotta believe Owen Reynolds went UM after his brother retired without getting much playing time at MSU. That sort of experience can sour a family on a school real quick, no matter the circumstances.MTmadeCat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:22 pmOwen Reynolds, this year, for example. This is a big difference I have noticed between Choate’s staff & Vigen’s. If Choate wanted a Montana kid, scholarship or walk on, he was gonna do everything he could to try and get him. Owen stated that he grew up a Bobcat fan coming to games here, but the griz offered him and contacted him more frequently and showed more interest. How does Vigen/staff give an in state kid an offer (any offer) and get outcompeted for him by um? It’s my belief that if you believe a Montana kid is good enough to suit up here and extend ANY offer, you do everything you can to get him on our side.MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:58 pmIs it trolling, or is it just Coach Hauck doing his job thoroughly? I certainly hope Coach Vigen is making offers to any Montana player he thinks is worthy of a spot, even if that player has strong existing family ties to the UM program and is likely to go there over MSU. You never know, some kids have "flipped" to the other school in the past and a lot can happen in the next year to potentially affect a player's decision making process.mslacatfan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:42 pmI remember hauck did the same thing with jory Choate, he might have even requested an in home visit if I remember correctly…. Hahaha
I absolutely hate coach hauck….. but this is some pretty solid trolling.
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We have now entered "Jeff Choate got any MT kid he wanted" narrative territory to try and downgrade Vigen. Do you want me to share with you all how well Vigen has done recruiting MT since he arrived? It has been just as good as Choate in number and talent. Actually, Vigen's one big miss was not getting Junior Bergen to jump on board back in January 2021. Other than that every kid from MT we've brought in has been a good get.AFCAT wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:49 pmHappens all the time on both sides. Rylan Ortt plays for the Cats even though his family members were gris fans and actually played there. RJ Fitzgerald’s dad played for the gris and RJ grew up a gris fan.MTmadeCat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:22 pmOwen Reynolds, this year, for example. This is a big difference I have noticed between Choate’s staff & Vigen’s. If Choate wanted a Montana kid, scholarship or walk on, he was gonna do everything he could to try and get him. Owen stated that he grew up a Bobcat fan coming to games here, but the griz offered him and contacted him more frequently and showed more interest. How does Vigen/staff give an in state kid an offer (any offer) and get outcompeted for him by um? It’s my belief that if you believe a Montana kid is good enough to suit up here and extend ANY offer, you do everything you can to get him on our side.MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:58 pmIs it trolling, or is it just Coach Hauck doing his job thoroughly? I certainly hope Coach Vigen is making offers to any Montana player he thinks is worthy of a spot, even if that player has strong existing family ties to the UM program and is likely to go there over MSU. You never know, some kids have "flipped" to the other school in the past and a lot can happen in the next year to potentially affect a player's decision making process.mslacatfan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:42 pmI remember hauck did the same thing with jory Choate, he might have even requested an in home visit if I remember correctly…. Hahaha
I absolutely hate coach hauck….. but this is some pretty solid trolling.
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Elijah Reynolds was a TE at MSU. It’s not likely that he and his family would be sour due to a lack of playing time. That would be unrealistic. MSU had three of the best TEs in the BSC last season in Pickering, Snell and Lonergan. Not to mention Provience. This would’ve been his year.84CatGrad wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:37 pmI gotta believe Owen Reynolds went UM after his brother retired without getting much playing time at MSU. That sort of experience can sour a family on a school real quick, no matter the circumstances.MTmadeCat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:22 pmOwen Reynolds, this year, for example. This is a big difference I have noticed between Choate’s staff & Vigen’s. If Choate wanted a Montana kid, scholarship or walk on, he was gonna do everything he could to try and get him. Owen stated that he grew up a Bobcat fan coming to games here, but the griz offered him and contacted him more frequently and showed more interest. How does Vigen/staff give an in state kid an offer (any offer) and get outcompeted for him by um? It’s my belief that if you believe a Montana kid is good enough to suit up here and extend ANY offer, you do everything you can to get him on our side.MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:58 pmIs it trolling, or is it just Coach Hauck doing his job thoroughly? I certainly hope Coach Vigen is making offers to any Montana player he thinks is worthy of a spot, even if that player has strong existing family ties to the UM program and is likely to go there over MSU. You never know, some kids have "flipped" to the other school in the past and a lot can happen in the next year to potentially affect a player's decision making process.mslacatfan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:42 pmI remember hauck did the same thing with jory Choate, he might have even requested an in home visit if I remember correctly…. Hahaha
I absolutely hate coach hauck….. but this is some pretty solid trolling.
MSU has a lot of depth. Not at every position but overall. It’s difficult to get playing time right away, especially considering the Covid situation.
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Share with me or the person I responded to? I agree with you. I was just commenting that players loyalty to Montana schools switches all the time.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:12 pmWe have now entered "Jeff Choate got any MT kid he wanted" narrative territory to try and downgrade Vigen. Do you want me to share with you all how well Vigen has done recruiting MT since he arrived? It has been just as good as Choate in number and talent. Actually, Vigen's one big miss was not getting Junior Bergen to jump on board back in January 2021. Other than that every kid from MT we've brought in has been a good get.AFCAT wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:49 pmHappens all the time on both sides. Rylan Ortt plays for the Cats even though his family members were gris fans and actually played there. RJ Fitzgerald’s dad played for the gris and RJ grew up a gris fan.MTmadeCat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:22 pmOwen Reynolds, this year, for example. This is a big difference I have noticed between Choate’s staff & Vigen’s. If Choate wanted a Montana kid, scholarship or walk on, he was gonna do everything he could to try and get him. Owen stated that he grew up a Bobcat fan coming to games here, but the griz offered him and contacted him more frequently and showed more interest. How does Vigen/staff give an in state kid an offer (any offer) and get outcompeted for him by um? It’s my belief that if you believe a Montana kid is good enough to suit up here and extend ANY offer, you do everything you can to get him on our side.MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:58 pmIs it trolling, or is it just Coach Hauck doing his job thoroughly? I certainly hope Coach Vigen is making offers to any Montana player he thinks is worthy of a spot, even if that player has strong existing family ties to the UM program and is likely to go there over MSU. You never know, some kids have "flipped" to the other school in the past and a lot can happen in the next year to potentially affect a player's decision making process.mslacatfan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:42 pmI remember hauck did the same thing with jory Choate, he might have even requested an in home visit if I remember correctly…. Hahaha
I absolutely hate coach hauck….. but this is some pretty solid trolling.
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Poster you responded to. I get the "player x wanted to be a Bobcat or Griz but got a better offer from the other" issue but it happens every year and usually with PWO kids who maybe get some late money to get them to commit. Rylan Ortt only got a PWO but really wanted to be a Griz so how come Bobby didn't up the ante? Again, Jeff was incredible for getting us back in competition in many areas but he was not perfect with recruiting MT kids...because no coach is. It's recruiting and you have a board based off your scouting. The coaches stay true to it which is why Choate offered Haucks nephew several years ago and Bobby offered Grant Vigen.AFCAT wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:15 pmShare with me or the person I responded to? I agree with you. I was just commenting that players loyalty to Montana schools switches all the time.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:12 pmWe have now entered "Jeff Choate got any MT kid he wanted" narrative territory to try and downgrade Vigen. Do you want me to share with you all how well Vigen has done recruiting MT since he arrived? It has been just as good as Choate in number and talent. Actually, Vigen's one big miss was not getting Junior Bergen to jump on board back in January 2021. Other than that every kid from MT we've brought in has been a good get.AFCAT wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:49 pmHappens all the time on both sides. Rylan Ortt plays for the Cats even though his family members were gris fans and actually played there. RJ Fitzgerald’s dad played for the gris and RJ grew up a gris fan.MTmadeCat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:22 pmOwen Reynolds, this year, for example. This is a big difference I have noticed between Choate’s staff & Vigen’s. If Choate wanted a Montana kid, scholarship or walk on, he was gonna do everything he could to try and get him. Owen stated that he grew up a Bobcat fan coming to games here, but the griz offered him and contacted him more frequently and showed more interest. How does Vigen/staff give an in state kid an offer (any offer) and get outcompeted for him by um? It’s my belief that if you believe a Montana kid is good enough to suit up here and extend ANY offer, you do everything you can to get him on our side.MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:58 pmIs it trolling, or is it just Coach Hauck doing his job thoroughly? I certainly hope Coach Vigen is making offers to any Montana player he thinks is worthy of a spot, even if that player has strong existing family ties to the UM program and is likely to go there over MSU. You never know, some kids have "flipped" to the other school in the past and a lot can happen in the next year to potentially affect a player's decision making process.mslacatfan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:42 pmI remember hauck did the same thing with jory Choate, he might have even requested an in home visit if I remember correctly…. Hahaha
I absolutely hate coach hauck….. but this is some pretty solid trolling.
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"Elijah Reynolds was a TE at MSU. It’s not likely that he and his family would be sour due to a lack of playing time. That would be unrealistic."
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Not an attempt to downgrade Vigen at all. I love him and am glad he’s a bobcat. More so referencing the players we’re not getting rather than are, as I personally love more of them on the roster because they all seem to make a difference sooner or later. Didn’t MSU have over (or close to) 50 MT kids on the roster for several Choate years?VimSince03 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:12 pmWe have now entered "Jeff Choate got any MT kid he wanted" narrative territory to try and downgrade Vigen. Do you want me to share with you all how well Vigen has done recruiting MT since he arrived? It has been just as good as Choate in number and talent. Actually, Vigen's one big miss was not getting Junior Bergen to jump on board back in January 2021. Other than that every kid from MT we've brought in has been a good get.AFCAT wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:49 pmHappens all the time on both sides. Rylan Ortt plays for the Cats even though his family members were gris fans and actually played there. RJ Fitzgerald’s dad played for the gris and RJ grew up a gris fan.MTmadeCat wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:22 pmOwen Reynolds, this year, for example. This is a big difference I have noticed between Choate’s staff & Vigen’s. If Choate wanted a Montana kid, scholarship or walk on, he was gonna do everything he could to try and get him. Owen stated that he grew up a Bobcat fan coming to games here, but the griz offered him and contacted him more frequently and showed more interest. How does Vigen/staff give an in state kid an offer (any offer) and get outcompeted for him by um? It’s my belief that if you believe a Montana kid is good enough to suit up here and extend ANY offer, you do everything you can to get him on our side.MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:58 pmIs it trolling, or is it just Coach Hauck doing his job thoroughly? I certainly hope Coach Vigen is making offers to any Montana player he thinks is worthy of a spot, even if that player has strong existing family ties to the UM program and is likely to go there over MSU. You never know, some kids have "flipped" to the other school in the past and a lot can happen in the next year to potentially affect a player's decision making process.mslacatfan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:42 pmI remember hauck did the same thing with jory Choate, he might have even requested an in home visit if I remember correctly…. Hahaha
I absolutely hate coach hauck….. but this is some pretty solid trolling.