Choate to Nevada

[BelligerentBobcat]

Got himself a QB

Jeffrey recruited his brother before his recruitment really took off. From what I remember, Brock really liked Choate during the recruiting process. What could have been.

[nanacat]

Read one article about the new QB, now Google shows Nevada football news every other article it seems. You'd think Choate didn't have a single player on his team with the amount of players he's signing. Wow.

[allcat]

Got himself a QB

My gut tells me he was recruited to be a linebacker

[AFCAT]

Read one article about the new QB, now Google shows Nevada football news every other article it seems. You'd think Choate didn't have a single player on his team with the amount of players he's signing. Wow.

That’s how the algorithms get people. Delete the cookies on your computer every day. Doesn’t work on social media platforms though. Watch one frigin Lacrosse video on Twitter and you get fifty more right behind it.

[nanacat]

Read one article about the new QB, now Google shows Nevada football news every other article it seems. You'd think Choate didn't have a single player on his team with the amount of players he's signing. Wow.

That’s how the algorithms get people. Delete the cookies on your computer every day. Doesn’t work on social media platforms though. Watch one frigin Lacrosse video on Twitter and you get fifty more right behind it.

Haha yes, it's true. Those dumb algorithms.

[grizzh8r]

Read one article about the new QB, now Google shows Nevada football news every other article it seems. You'd think Choate didn't have a single player on his team with the amount of players he's signing. Wow.

That’s how the algorithms get people. Delete the cookies on your computer every day. Doesn’t work on social media platforms though. Watch one frigin Lacrosse video on Twitter and you get fifty more right behind it.

Haha yes, it's true. Those dumb algorithms.

Simple solution is don't use Chrome. Duck Duck Go solves the majority of these problems.

[BigBruceBaker]

Never said he didn’t do good here, but some of you think he walked on water.

Always makes me laugh. Choate was clearly a solid coach & much needed for the program when he got here....but he was God-awful in year 1 and in the process of rebuilding the defense absolutely destroyed one of the most talented offenses in the FCS. Anyone else remember how he trotted out Tyler Bruggman for embarassment after embarrassment until the crowd actually booed the coaches for putting the kid back in?

I never really forgave him for that...sort of undermines the whole 'player centered' thing.

But he was 4-0 against the Griz & got Bob Stitt fired. And after 3 years had returned the Cats to where they were in 2012.

I'm glad he was here & glad he fixed the problems on D, but we lucked out so much when he took the job at Texas.

If he was still here, we'd probably be sitting Sean Chambers & Tommy Mellot on the bench & trying to figure out which linebacker to start at QB.

Oh my gosh.

I’m sorry, but you don’t understand how bad things were getting under Ash. The players despised him, there was hardly any leadership, and the depth was mediocre at best. Sure, the offense performed well (against mid level teams), but you can’t blame Prukop leaving on Choate.

Choate had to rebuild so much when he got here. It was bad, bad. Clearly he wasn’t an offensive savant, but he was the best coach MSU had in the 2000’s prior to Vigen.

I'm pretty well aware of how bad things got under Ash-Choate was a clear upgrade over late career Ash. But he was pretty much even with early career Ash....in every category except Cat-Griz, in which aspect he was light years better.

But the QB situation was so far beyond unacceptable that I'm still shaking my head in shock.

Hopefully as Texas DC, Choate learned that it's NEVER OK to move your best defensive player to be a mediocre offensive player. If he hasnt' learned that, he's going to struggle at Nevada.

It wasn’t a great move, but that aforementioned linebacker was 1st Team Big Sky and an All-American at the wrong position. Seems like he’s done okay — really sorry to see him get re-injured this year.

Probably cost Troy $5-$10m over his career. But sure. Worked out really well for Choate.

I’m not sure how you came up with that figure. Troy first caught the attention of the scouts because of the athleticism he showed on offense. Sure, he wasn’t a true quarterback but his ability to score, his physicality, and the speed he showed on the offensive side of the ball certainly helped him. We will never know how high he would have been drafted had he played defense his entire career but I doubt it would have been higher than where he eventually went.

$5-10 million is ludicrous.

Conservative estimates out of the Anderson camp has that number closer to $40 million on the career earnings side.

....not sure what the Andersen camp says though. Who knows -they might like Choate and think Troy is doing great in the NFL. I wouldn't actually know - like 99.9% of us.

Got drafted about where he would have being a LB for 4 years, maybe higher since he showed the athleticism on offensive side. Had a year to develop at Atlanta then an injury tat had nothing to do with time at MSU. His career earnings are entirely up to him and his ability to excel next year and stay injury free. Blaming earnings on time at MSU is crap.

LOL - what? I think you might have missed my COMPLETELY SARCASTIC TONE...

[tetoncat]

Always makes me laugh. Choate was clearly a solid coach & much needed for the program when he got here....but he was God-awful in year 1 and in the process of rebuilding the defense absolutely destroyed one of the most talented offenses in the FCS. Anyone else remember how he trotted out Tyler Bruggman for embarassment after embarrassment until the crowd actually booed the coaches for putting the kid back in?

I never really forgave him for that...sort of undermines the whole 'player centered' thing.

But he was 4-0 against the Griz & got Bob Stitt fired. And after 3 years had returned the Cats to where they were in 2012.

I'm glad he was here & glad he fixed the problems on D, but we lucked out so much when he took the job at Texas.

If he was still here, we'd probably be sitting Sean Chambers & Tommy Mellot on the bench & trying to figure out which linebacker to start at QB.

Oh my gosh.

I’m sorry, but you don’t understand how bad things were getting under Ash. The players despised him, there was hardly any leadership, and the depth was mediocre at best. Sure, the offense performed well (against mid level teams), but you can’t blame Prukop leaving on Choate.

Choate had to rebuild so much when he got here. It was bad, bad. Clearly he wasn’t an offensive savant, but he was the best coach MSU had in the 2000’s prior to Vigen.

I'm pretty well aware of how bad things got under Ash-Choate was a clear upgrade over late career Ash. But he was pretty much even with early career Ash....in every category except Cat-Griz, in which aspect he was light years better.

But the QB situation was so far beyond unacceptable that I'm still shaking my head in shock.

Hopefully as Texas DC, Choate learned that it's NEVER OK to move your best defensive player to be a mediocre offensive player. If he hasnt' learned that, he's going to struggle at Nevada.

It wasn’t a great move, but that aforementioned linebacker was 1st Team Big Sky and an All-American at the wrong position. Seems like he’s done okay — really sorry to see him get re-injured this year.

Probably cost Troy $5-$10m over his career. But sure. Worked out really well for Choate.

I’m not sure how you came up with that figure. Troy first caught the attention of the scouts because of the athleticism he showed on offense. Sure, he wasn’t a true quarterback but his ability to score, his physicality, and the speed he showed on the offensive side of the ball certainly helped him. We will never know how high he would have been drafted had he played defense his entire career but I doubt it would have been higher than where he eventually went.

$5-10 million is ludicrous.

Conservative estimates out of the Anderson camp has that number closer to $40 million on the career earnings side.

....not sure what the Andersen camp says though. Who knows -they might like Choate and think Troy is doing great in the NFL. I wouldn't actually know - like 99.9% of us.

Got drafted about where he would have being a LB for 4 years, maybe higher since he showed the athleticism on offensive side. Had a year to develop at Atlanta then an injury tat had nothing to do with time at MSU. His career earnings are entirely up to him and his ability to excel next year and stay injury free. Blaming earnings on time at MSU is crap.

LOL - what? I think you might have missed my COMPLETELY SARCASTIC TONE...

Not sure onceacat was though and that is part of the thread

[BigBruceBaker]

Oh my gosh.

I’m sorry, but you don’t understand how bad things were getting under Ash. The players despised him, there was hardly any leadership, and the depth was mediocre at best. Sure, the offense performed well (against mid level teams), but you can’t blame Prukop leaving on Choate.

Choate had to rebuild so much when he got here. It was bad, bad. Clearly he wasn’t an offensive savant, but he was the best coach MSU had in the 2000’s prior to Vigen.

I'm pretty well aware of how bad things got under Ash-Choate was a clear upgrade over late career Ash. But he was pretty much even with early career Ash....in every category except Cat-Griz, in which aspect he was light years better.

But the QB situation was so far beyond unacceptable that I'm still shaking my head in shock.

Hopefully as Texas DC, Choate learned that it's NEVER OK to move your best defensive player to be a mediocre offensive player. If he hasnt' learned that, he's going to struggle at Nevada.

It wasn’t a great move, but that aforementioned linebacker was 1st Team Big Sky and an All-American at the wrong position. Seems like he’s done okay — really sorry to see him get re-injured this year.

Probably cost Troy $5-$10m over his career. But sure. Worked out really well for Choate.

I’m not sure how you came up with that figure. Troy first caught the attention of the scouts because of the athleticism he showed on offense. Sure, he wasn’t a true quarterback but his ability to score, his physicality, and the speed he showed on the offensive side of the ball certainly helped him. We will never know how high he would have been drafted had he played defense his entire career but I doubt it would have been higher than where he eventually went.

$5-10 million is ludicrous.

Conservative estimates out of the Anderson camp has that number closer to $40 million on the career earnings side.

....not sure what the Andersen camp says though. Who knows -they might like Choate and think Troy is doing great in the NFL. I wouldn't actually know - like 99.9% of us.

Got drafted about where he would have being a LB for 4 years, maybe higher since he showed the athleticism on offensive side. Had a year to develop at Atlanta then an injury tat had nothing to do with time at MSU. His career earnings are entirely up to him and his ability to excel next year and stay injury free. Blaming earnings on time at MSU is crap.

LOL - what? I think you might have missed my COMPLETELY SARCASTIC TONE...

Not sure onceacat was though and that is part of the thread

Onceacat was about 6 deep on that thread and you responded to mine. I’m assuming you can see where I’d draw a pretty direct line in the thought process of you talking to me.

But it’s bobcatnation in the off-season. Blue is maroon and black is white.

I’ll be less quick to jump to conclusions in the future…..

[tetoncat]

I'm pretty well aware of how bad things got under Ash-Choate was a clear upgrade over late career Ash. But he was pretty much even with early career Ash....in every category except Cat-Griz, in which aspect he was light years better.

But the QB situation was so far beyond unacceptable that I'm still shaking my head in shock.

Hopefully as Texas DC, Choate learned that it's NEVER OK to move your best defensive player to be a mediocre offensive player. If he hasnt' learned that, he's going to struggle at Nevada.

It wasn’t a great move, but that aforementioned linebacker was 1st Team Big Sky and an All-American at the wrong position. Seems like he’s done okay — really sorry to see him get re-injured this year.

Probably cost Troy $5-$10m over his career. But sure. Worked out really well for Choate.

I’m not sure how you came up with that figure. Troy first caught the attention of the scouts because of the athleticism he showed on offense. Sure, he wasn’t a true quarterback but his ability to score, his physicality, and the speed he showed on the offensive side of the ball certainly helped him. We will never know how high he would have been drafted had he played defense his entire career but I doubt it would have been higher than where he eventually went.

$5-10 million is ludicrous.

Conservative estimates out of the Anderson camp has that number closer to $40 million on the career earnings side.

....not sure what the Andersen camp says though. Who knows -they might like Choate and think Troy is doing great in the NFL. I wouldn't actually know - like 99.9% of us.

Got drafted about where he would have being a LB for 4 years, maybe higher since he showed the athleticism on offensive side. Had a year to develop at Atlanta then an injury tat had nothing to do with time at MSU. His career earnings are entirely up to him and his ability to excel next year and stay injury free. Blaming earnings on time at MSU is crap.

LOL - what? I think you might have missed my COMPLETELY SARCASTIC TONE...

Not sure onceacat was though and that is part of the thread

Onceacat was about 6 deep on that thread and you responded to mine. I’m assuming you can see where I’d draw a pretty direct line in the thought process of you talking to me.

But it’s bobcatnation in the off-season. Blue is maroon and black is white.

I’ll be less quick to jump to conclusions in the future…..

You were ninth post in a thread, easier to add to that last one.

[BelligerentBobcat]

I'm pretty well aware of how bad things got under Ash-Choate was a clear upgrade over late career Ash. But he was pretty much even with early career Ash....in every category except Cat-Griz, in which aspect he was light years better.

But the QB situation was so far beyond unacceptable that I'm still shaking my head in shock.

Hopefully as Texas DC, Choate learned that it's NEVER OK to move your best defensive player to be a mediocre offensive player. If he hasnt' learned that, he's going to struggle at Nevada.

It wasn’t a great move, but that aforementioned linebacker was 1st Team Big Sky and an All-American at the wrong position. Seems like he’s done okay — really sorry to see him get re-injured this year.

Probably cost Troy $5-$10m over his career. But sure. Worked out really well for Choate.

I’m not sure how you came up with that figure. Troy first caught the attention of the scouts because of the athleticism he showed on offense. Sure, he wasn’t a true quarterback but his ability to score, his physicality, and the speed he showed on the offensive side of the ball certainly helped him. We will never know how high he would have been drafted had he played defense his entire career but I doubt it would have been higher than where he eventually went.

$5-10 million is ludicrous.

Conservative estimates out of the Anderson camp has that number closer to $40 million on the career earnings side.

....not sure what the Andersen camp says though. Who knows -they might like Choate and think Troy is doing great in the NFL. I wouldn't actually know - like 99.9% of us.

Got drafted about where he would have being a LB for 4 years, maybe higher since he showed the athleticism on offensive side. Had a year to develop at Atlanta then an injury tat had nothing to do with time at MSU. His career earnings are entirely up to him and his ability to excel next year and stay injury free. Blaming earnings on time at MSU is crap.

LOL - what? I think you might have missed my COMPLETELY SARCASTIC TONE...

Not sure onceacat was though and that is part of the thread

Onceacat was about 6 deep on that thread and you responded to mine. I’m assuming you can see where I’d draw a pretty direct line in the thought process of you talking to me.

But it’s bobcatnation in the off-season. Blue is maroon and black is white.

I’ll be less quick to jump to conclusions in the future…..

Bruuuuuuuuuce. How ya doin buddy?!

[kwcat]

https://nevadasportsnet.com/news/report ... ting-class

[Common Cat]

https://nevadasportsnet.com/news/report ... ting-class

I don’t know why keep posting stuff like this. He doesn’t coach here anymore. Time to move it to the college thread.

[kwcat]

https://nevadasportsnet.com/news/report ... ting-class

I don’t know why keep posting stuff like this. He doesn’t coach here anymore. Time to move it to the college thread.

That’s OK if you have an opinion. It is the title of the thread. Previous coach mentions a few things about his history at Montana State. Some of us find it interesting some of us don’t.
I personally like hearing about previous players and coaches at MSU and how they are progressing. In this day and environment of not only coach changes but portal transfers I believe that anything positive mentioned about Montana State University, and its programs only help in the recruiting process.
I enjoy hearing about Troy Andersen, and other Previous players as well that no longer play here.

[BelligerentBobcat]

https://nevadasportsnet.com/news/report ... ting-class

I don’t know why keep posting stuff like this. He doesn’t coach here anymore. Time to move it to the college thread.

That’s OK if you have an opinion. It is the title of the thread. Previous coach mentions a few things about his history at Montana State. Some of us find it interesting some of us don’t.
I personally like hearing about previous players and coaches at MSU and how they are progressing. In this day and environment of not only coach changes but portal transfers I believe that anything positive mentioned about Montana State University, and its programs only help in the recruiting process.
I enjoy hearing about Troy Andersen, and other Previous players as well that no longer play here.

I think the point is that it should be on the college board rather than the main board.

[kwcat]

https://nevadasportsnet.com/news/report ... ting-class

I don’t know why keep posting stuff like this. He doesn’t coach here anymore. Time to move it to the college thread.

That’s OK if you have an opinion. It is the title of the thread. Previous coach mentions a few things about his history at Montana State. Some of us find it interesting some of us don’t.
I personally like hearing about previous players and coaches at MSU and how they are progressing. In this day and environment of not only coach changes but portal transfers I believe that anything positive mentioned about Montana State University, and its programs only help in the recruiting process.
I enjoy hearing about Troy Andersen, and other Previous players as well that no longer play here.

I think the point is that it should be on the college board rather than the main board.

[AFCAT]

Being forced to read threads on BN. Relax, I’m just joking.

[ilovethecats]

https://nevadasportsnet.com/news/report ... ting-class

I don’t know why keep posting stuff like this. He doesn’t coach here anymore. Time to move it to the college thread.

That’s OK if you have an opinion. It is the title of the thread. Previous coach mentions a few things about his history at Montana State. Some of us find it interesting some of us don’t.
I personally like hearing about previous players and coaches at MSU and how they are progressing. In this day and environment of not only coach changes but portal transfers I believe that anything positive mentioned about Montana State University, and its programs only help in the recruiting process.
I enjoy hearing about Troy Andersen, and other Previous players as well that no longer play here.

I think the point is that it should be on the college board rather than the main board.

I think you're good. We have a 15 page thread on Choate running for over two months. I don't have an issue with you contributing to that 2 month long 15 page thread.....

[Joe Bobcat]

One thing that caught my attention in his interview was when he said that his young coaches were all very emotionally intelligent and mature.

Emotional intelligence and maturity may have been the greatest weakness of a recent OC for the Bobcats.

[Team10]

One thing that caught my attention in his interview was when he said that his young coaches were all very emotionally intelligent and mature.

Emotional intelligence and maturity may have been the greatest weakness of a recent OC for the Bobcats.

Would love to hear a further explanation of this hot take.