Does defense really win chippers?

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Does defense really win chippers?

Post by Hi-Line Bobcat » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:42 pm

Um no.


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Re: Does defense really win chippers?

Post by TomCat88 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:44 pm

Hi-Line Bobcat wrote:
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Um no.
Good defense does, but bad defense doesn’t. You must be talking about bad defense.


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Re: Does defense really win chippers?

Post by 91catAlum » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:47 pm

Hi-Line Bobcat wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:42 pm
Um no.
Not sure why you'd say that after Maine's defense held Weber to 0 rush yards, forced 4 turnovers, and beat them on the road.


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Re: Does defense really win chippers?

Post by Hi-Line Bobcat » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:50 pm

Hmm.. I would start with O before defense, the rules are set up that way.

Did anybody watch the game tonight?


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Re: Does defense really win chippers?

Post by 94VegasCat » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:52 pm

Weebs couldn’t move! Black hole defense shut down everything.


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Re: Does defense really win chippers?

Post by Hi-Line Bobcat » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:54 pm

You guys are missing the point. If you don’t score you don’t win chippers. Total offense tonight was 281 to 271 even matched.


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Re: Does defense really win chippers?

Post by bpcats20 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:57 pm

Defense can get you 75% there in most cases but still need an effective offense either generating some explosive plays ie Maine tonight or launch an efficient offensive attack- like Eastern Washington or North Dakota State.

One thing about these playoffs is if there are flaws with your team, they will be exposed.

Your quarterback better be a good decision maker.



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Re: Does defense really win chippers?

Post by Hi-Line Bobcat » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:08 pm

Your QB better be good and your number 1 recruit every year.


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Re: Does defense really win chippers?

Post by Hi-Line Bobcat » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:10 pm

Still start with O first every time.


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Re: Does defense really win chippers?

Post by 91catAlum » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:26 pm

Hi-Line Bobcat wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:10 pm
Still start with O first every time.
The 2014 and 2015 Bobcats would disagree.


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Re: Does defense really win chippers?

Post by AFCAT » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:30 pm

91catAlum wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:26 pm
Hi-Line Bobcat wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:10 pm
Still start with O first every time.
The 2014 and 2015 Bobcats would disagree.
Exactly. Great defense and a serviceable to good offense can go a long way.


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Re: Does defense really win chippers?

Post by Hi-Line Bobcat » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:50 am

91catAlum wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:26 pm
Hi-Line Bobcat wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:10 pm
Still start with O first every time.
The 2014 and 2015 Bobcats would disagree.
Doubt it. You need a balance don’t get me wrong, but the question is, where to you put your eggs, defense or offense? For me, you start on O maybe it’s just me I don’t know.


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Re: Does defense really win chippers?

Post by Helcat72 » Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:44 am

94VegasCat wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:52 pm
Weebs couldn’t move! Black hole defense shut down everything.
Both teams had elite defenses. A big difference between them and the Bobcats is that all the secondary and linebackers triggered like Mac Bignell. The CB play was outstanding. Maine just had a better QB and offense. Weber had the best WR's, but they were neutralized by bad throws and good DB's. Weber's CB did gamble on an interception and got burnt for 6.


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Re: Does defense really win chippers?

Post by TomCat88 » Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:30 am

91catAlum wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:26 pm
Hi-Line Bobcat wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:10 pm
Still start with O first every time.
The 2014 and 2015 Bobcats would disagree.
So do the 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018 NDSU Bison. Other than one year the defense has been rated higher than the offense and that one year both ranked no.1.


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Re: Does defense really win chippers?

Post by 91catAlum » Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:41 am

Hi-Line Bobcat wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:50 am
91catAlum wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:26 pm
Hi-Line Bobcat wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:10 pm
Still start with O first every time.
The 2014 and 2015 Bobcats would disagree.
Doubt it. You need a balance don’t get me wrong, but the question is, where to you put your eggs, defense or offense? For me, you start on O maybe it’s just me I don’t know.
I agree you need balance. I don't think of it as putting your eggs in the defensive basket or offensive basket. I think you have to put your eggs in the trenches, starting with D line. Then O line.


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Re: Does defense really win chippers?

Post by bobcat99 » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:40 am

Hi-Line Bobcat wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:54 pm
You guys are missing the point. If you don’t score you don’t win chippers. Total offense tonight was 281 to 271 even matched.
The yardage was evenly matched. You failed to mention the turnovers though.



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Re: Does defense really win chippers?

Post by R4TB » Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:46 am

Maine blew up the line of scrimmage all night. Weber could not get the running or passing game going. You can have All American WR, RB, and QB, but if the defense is constantly in the backfield the O is not moving the chains.



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Re: Does defense really win chippers?

Post by JimboCat » Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:55 am

Defense wins with at least an average to good offense. Weber had a really bad match up, in that Maine has a great run defense and Weber can't throw it.

Weber did not have a good offense this year, and they didn't score from defense or special teams like they did during the year.

The yardage was only even because Weber got a bunch of yards at the end.

Maine was better.



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Re: Does defense really win chippers?

Post by Cledus » Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:45 am

JimboCat wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:55 am
Defense wins with at least an average to good offense. Weber had a really bad match up, in that Maine has a great run defense and Weber can't throw it.

Weber did not have a good offense this year, and they didn't score from defense or special teams like they did during the year.

The yardage was only even because Weber got a bunch of yards at the end.

Maine was better.
Weber was dead last in offense in the league.


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Re: Does defense really win chippers?

Post by superbobcat » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:15 pm

You need balance on both sides and Weber was missing that last night. I will say if I had to choose one or the other to focus on to win a championship, I would choose defense.



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