Big opportunity for Bauman

[RobertCats]

I have seen Choate mention multiple times that Bauman has a big arm but is still adjusting from playing at a smaller school. I did not get any sense that he is a viable option unless Troy gets hurt. Even if you can throw the ball 70 yards, if you can’t adjust to the speed and athleticism of college football players, it could be a disaster. From other Choate comments, I get the impression that as of today, Beltran is better prepared for necessary game reps.

Bauman is the #2. Beltran is the #3. Be prepared to see Casey Bauman play in 4 of the next 5 games.

And Rovig was number #2 last week despite having a broken foot. Regardless, is placing Bauman at QB a good decision against arguably the number one defense in the Big Sky? I want to see the kid play, but we saw how that played out with Rovig against SDSU.

You said Beltran is "better prepared for necessary games reps". Also, fans think we would need to run an entirely different offense if Bauman plays QB. So since Beltran is more mobile, he is the logical choice to come in and replace Troy if need be. People need to get that out of their heads because each of our QBs can run the same offense...their just won't be so many designed QB runs when our QB/RB is not under center. Beltran has had an odd cult following by some fans since he was signed but he has never really been in the discussion as a QB good enough to play this year. He has consistently been behind Bauman despite their different skill sets. Bauman has been taking steady reps with the #2's and is 100% the more "prepared" freshman QB we have backing up Troy at this point. You also stated "even if you can throw the ball 70 yards, if you can’t adjust to the speed and athleticism of college football players, it could be a disaster." You really don't think throwing in Beltran would be better? Plus, Bauman has the best arm talent on MSU's football team. Arm talent meaning he can throw deep, intermediate, and short range with accuracy and velocity. I think some fans think he is just a kid who threw bombs in high school and that's it. His game film showed how well he can place the ball all over the field at different depths while from the pocket, on play-action rollouts, and under pressure. Choate has also stated this when all our QBs were healthy as Casey has showed the arm talent in practice. The only thing that has held him back are the common things for any true freshman QB: he is a true freshman coming from a small school (Class A size in Montana for comparison....so the same as Troy), he has been learning the offense, and adjusting to being a college QB in terms of preparation.

So I will say it once again (based off what I have been told), Bauman is the #2. Beltran is the #3. Be prepared to see Casey play in 4 of the next 5 games in a role similar to Tucker.

Spot on, for what it's worth I heard that Bauman was adjusting to the speed of the game just fine and that his talents (along with TR's injury) are forcing the coaches' hands. The hesitation was more the fact that Bauman had a pretty vanilla playbook with not a whole lot of presnap responsibilities and faced rather vanilla defenses where he did not have to work very hard to recognize coverages. That is where the learning curve has been but he is coming along and has made major strides since camp. I am not going to pretend to be a QB guru by any means but in my humble opinion, his high school tape showed one of the most polished, talented, all-around QB signings we have ever got.

[ilovethecats]

I have seen Choate mention multiple times that Bauman has a big arm but is still adjusting from playing at a smaller school. I did not get any sense that he is a viable option unless Troy gets hurt. Even if you can throw the ball 70 yards, if you can’t adjust to the speed and athleticism of college football players, it could be a disaster. From other Choate comments, I get the impression that as of today, Beltran is better prepared for necessary game reps.

Bauman is the #2. Beltran is the #3. Be prepared to see Casey Bauman play in 4 of the next 5 games.

and our luck would be that he'd play very good, be a huge contributor to winning games....and NOT be able to play in the playoffs. that would be typical bobcat luck....

[Cataholic]

I have seen Choate mention multiple times that Bauman has a big arm but is still adjusting from playing at a smaller school. I did not get any sense that he is a viable option unless Troy gets hurt. Even if you can throw the ball 70 yards, if you can’t adjust to the speed and athleticism of college football players, it could be a disaster. From other Choate comments, I get the impression that as of today, Beltran is better prepared for necessary game reps.

Bauman is the #2. Beltran is the #3. Be prepared to see Casey Bauman play in 4 of the next 5 games.

And Rovig was number #2 last week despite having a broken foot. Regardless, is placing Bauman at QB a good decision against arguably the number one defense in the Big Sky? I want to see the kid play, but we saw how that played out with Rovig against SDSU.

You said Beltran is "better prepared for necessary games reps". Also, fans think we would need to run an entirely different offense if Bauman plays QB. So since Beltran is more mobile, he is the logical choice to come in and replace Troy if need be. People need to get that out of their heads because each of our QBs can run the same offense...their just won't be so many designed QB runs when our QB/RB is not under center. Beltran has had an odd cult following by some fans since he was signed but he has never really been in the discussion as a QB good enough to play this year. He has consistently been behind Bauman despite their different skill sets. Bauman has been taking steady reps with the #2's and is 100% the more "prepared" freshman QB we have backing up Troy at this point. You also stated "even if you can throw the ball 70 yards, if you can’t adjust to the speed and athleticism of college football players, it could be a disaster." You really don't think throwing in Beltran would be better? Plus, Bauman has the best arm talent on MSU's football team. Arm talent meaning he can throw deep, intermediate, and short range with accuracy and velocity. I think some fans think he is just a kid who threw bombs in high school and that's it. His game film showed how well he can place the ball all over the field at different depths while from the pocket, on play-action rollouts, and under pressure. Choate has also stated this when all our QBs were healthy as Casey has showed the arm talent in practice. The only thing that has held him back are the common things for any true freshman QB: he is a true freshman coming from a small school (Class A size in Montana for comparison....so the same as Troy), he has been learning the offense, and adjusting to being a college QB in terms of preparation.

So I will say it once again (based off what I have been told), Bauman is the #2. Beltran is the #3. Be prepared to see Casey play in 4 of the next 5 games in a role similar to Tucker.

I am not trying to be argumentative, but I said From other Choate comments, I get the impression that as of today, Beltran is better prepared for necessary game reps. It is only my opinion.

Here is Choates’s quotes. Maybe I am reading too much into it.

On Beltran after some information about coming from a large school - “Ruben is very cerebral and is kind of a football junkie. Very accurate, savvy kid, can get himself out of trouble with his feet, not afraid to run some of the quarterback run game,”

On Bauman - “He played smaller-school ball, so the progression to playing Division I football has been a little different, but I’ve seen a noticeable change in terms of his preparation.”

I am also very high on Bauman, but I am concerned about the jump from small school to FCS for a passing QB. You of all people understand the difference between a 5.1 second cornerback and CB with 4.6 speed. I hope you are right that he is ready, but Beltran has played against a higher level of competition. And you are going against one of the best defenses in the Big Sky.

[VimSince03]

I have seen Choate mention multiple times that Bauman has a big arm but is still adjusting from playing at a smaller school. I did not get any sense that he is a viable option unless Troy gets hurt. Even if you can throw the ball 70 yards, if you can’t adjust to the speed and athleticism of college football players, it could be a disaster. From other Choate comments, I get the impression that as of today, Beltran is better prepared for necessary game reps.

Bauman is the #2. Beltran is the #3. Be prepared to see Casey Bauman play in 4 of the next 5 games.

And Rovig was number #2 last week despite having a broken foot. Regardless, is placing Bauman at QB a good decision against arguably the number one defense in the Big Sky? I want to see the kid play, but we saw how that played out with Rovig against SDSU.

You said Beltran is "better prepared for necessary games reps". Also, fans think we would need to run an entirely different offense if Bauman plays QB. So since Beltran is more mobile, he is the logical choice to come in and replace Troy if need be. People need to get that out of their heads because each of our QBs can run the same offense...their just won't be so many designed QB runs when our QB/RB is not under center. Beltran has had an odd cult following by some fans since he was signed but he has never really been in the discussion as a QB good enough to play this year. He has consistently been behind Bauman despite their different skill sets. Bauman has been taking steady reps with the #2's and is 100% the more "prepared" freshman QB we have backing up Troy at this point. You also stated "even if you can throw the ball 70 yards, if you can’t adjust to the speed and athleticism of college football players, it could be a disaster." You really don't think throwing in Beltran would be better? Plus, Bauman has the best arm talent on MSU's football team. Arm talent meaning he can throw deep, intermediate, and short range with accuracy and velocity. I think some fans think he is just a kid who threw bombs in high school and that's it. His game film showed how well he can place the ball all over the field at different depths while from the pocket, on play-action rollouts, and under pressure. Choate has also stated this when all our QBs were healthy as Casey has showed the arm talent in practice. The only thing that has held him back are the common things for any true freshman QB: he is a true freshman coming from a small school (Class A size in Montana for comparison....so the same as Troy), he has been learning the offense, and adjusting to being a college QB in terms of preparation.

So I will say it once again (based off what I have been told), Bauman is the #2. Beltran is the #3. Be prepared to see Casey play in 4 of the next 5 games in a role similar to Tucker.

I am not trying to be argumentative, but I said From other Choate comments, I get the impression that as of today, Beltran is better prepared for necessary game reps. It is only my opinion.

Here is Choates’s quotes. Maybe I am reading too much into it.

On Beltran after some information about coming from a large school - “Ruben is very cerebral and is kind of a football junkie. Very accurate, savvy kid, can get himself out of trouble with his feet, not afraid to run some of the quarterback run game,”

On Bauman - “He played smaller-school ball, so the progression to playing Division I football has been a little different, but I’ve seen a noticeable change in terms of his preparation.”

I am also very high on Bauman, but I am concerned about the jump from small school to FCS for a passing QB. You of all people understand the difference between a 5.1 second cornerback and CB with 4.6 speed. I hope you are right that he is ready, but Beltran has played against a higher level of competition. And you are going against one of the best defenses in the Big Sky.

Bauman has played better than Beltran in practice against our FCS defense so the "high school competition" angle is eliminated at this point.

[Buckaroo Bonzi]

I have seen Choate mention multiple times that Bauman has a big arm but is still adjusting from playing at a smaller school. I did not get any sense that he is a viable option unless Troy gets hurt. Even if you can throw the ball 70 yards, if you can’t adjust to the speed and athleticism of college football players, it could be a disaster. From other Choate comments, I get the impression that as of today, Beltran is better prepared for necessary game reps.

Bauman is the #2. Beltran is the #3. Be prepared to see Casey Bauman play in 4 of the next 5 games.

and our luck would be that he'd play very good, be a huge contributor to winning games....and NOT be able to play in the playoffs. that would be typical bobcat luck....

If that is our Luck " and we are due some". Casey plays very good, and contributes to winning games ,especially the
next two , I would predict he doesn't Redshirt this year .

[ilovethecats]

I have seen Choate mention multiple times that Bauman has a big arm but is still adjusting from playing at a smaller school. I did not get any sense that he is a viable option unless Troy gets hurt. Even if you can throw the ball 70 yards, if you can’t adjust to the speed and athleticism of college football players, it could be a disaster. From other Choate comments, I get the impression that as of today, Beltran is better prepared for necessary game reps.

Bauman is the #2. Beltran is the #3. Be prepared to see Casey Bauman play in 4 of the next 5 games.

and our luck would be that he'd play very good, be a huge contributor to winning games....and NOT be able to play in the playoffs. that would be typical bobcat luck....

If that is our Luck " and we are due some". Casey plays very good, and contributes to winning games ,especially the
next two , I would predict he doesn't Redshirt this year .

ya that's a good point.

[iaafan]

Did you know:
Bauman ran for 619 yards and 15 touchdowns his senior year.
He played some outside linebacker.
Was also his team’s long snapper.

[joe_montana_state]

Great. When choate finds out we will have him playing both ways AND long snapping! I kid!

Did you know:
Bauman ran for 619 yards and 15 touchdowns his senior year.
He played some outside linebacker.
Was also his team’s long snapper.

[CelticCat]

So if he plays this weekend, our two freshman QBs (Rovig, Bauman) will have had their first snaps against SDSU, and Weber, respectively. Talk about trial by fire.

[coloradocat]

He played some outside linebacker.

Isn't LB a position of need? Maybe we can play him there.

[Montanabob]

I have seen Choate mention multiple times that Bauman has a big arm but is still adjusting from playing at a smaller school. I did not get any sense that he is a viable option unless Troy gets hurt. Even if you can throw the ball 70 yards, if you can’t adjust to the speed and athleticism of college football players, it could be a disaster. From other Choate comments, I get the impression that as of today, Beltran is better prepared for necessary game reps.

Bauman is the #2. Beltran is the #3. Be prepared to see Casey Bauman play in 4 of the next 5 games.

Any chance we end up seeing Beltran at Running Back?

[RickRund]

4 games available, to still maintain redshirt... I'm assuming that also includes playoff games, correct?... I am still hoping for a deep playoff run.


Luckily we have about 19 QB's on the roster (highschool qb's, mostly playing other positions)… ha. cuz so far this year we seem to lose a QB to injury about once every 2 weeks.

The way I understood the new redshirt rule is that they can play in up to 4 regular season games and still redshirt. One snap in any game other than regular season and they are no longer eligible to redshirt.

There was some confusion around that initially. These kids can play in any 4 games (including post season). The only ones who cannot participate in post season and still redshirt are mid year transfers

Gotchya, thanks for the clarification!

Question here; what is a mid year transfer?

[Montanabob]

4 games available, to still maintain redshirt... I'm assuming that also includes playoff games, correct?... I am still hoping for a deep playoff run.


Luckily we have about 19 QB's on the roster (highschool qb's, mostly playing other positions)… ha. cuz so far this year we seem to lose a QB to injury about once every 2 weeks.

The way I understood the new redshirt rule is that they can play in up to 4 regular season games and still redshirt. One snap in any game other than regular season and they are no longer eligible to redshirt.

There was some confusion around that initially. These kids can play in any 4 games (including post season). The only ones who cannot participate in post season and still redshirt are mid year transfers

Gotchya, thanks for the clarification!

Question here; what is a mid year transfer?

Transfer in December and play in January games is the easiest way to think of it... Leave school at the end of Quarter/Semester and start new schools Quarter/Semester. Play in the Bowl or Playoff game and you use a year of eligibility.

[TomCat88]

I have seen Choate mention multiple times that Bauman has a big arm but is still adjusting from playing at a smaller school. I did not get any sense that he is a viable option unless Troy gets hurt. Even if you can throw the ball 70 yards, if you can’t adjust to the speed and athleticism of college football players, it could be a disaster. From other Choate comments, I get the impression that as of today, Beltran is better prepared for necessary game reps.

Bauman is the #2. Beltran is the #3. Be prepared to see Casey Bauman play in 4 of the next 5 games.

and our luck would be that he'd play very good, be a huge contributor to winning games....and NOT be able to play in the playoffs. that would be typical bobcat luck....

If that is our Luck " and we are due some". Casey plays very good, and contributes to winning games ,especially the
next two , I would predict he doesn't Redshirt this year .

Actually MSU’s luck would be that he’d do very well for years. At least that’s been the recent luck for starting frosh QBs. The last three freshmen to start have been to the playoffs twice, won the league twice and beat UM all three times. For their careers (10 seasons) they have won six league titles and are 7-3 vs the Grizzlies.

[exppi]

I have seen Choate mention multiple times that Bauman has a big arm but is still adjusting from playing at a smaller school. I did not get any sense that he is a viable option unless Troy gets hurt. Even if you can throw the ball 70 yards, if you can’t adjust to the speed and athleticism of college football players, it could be a disaster. From other Choate comments, I get the impression that as of today, Beltran is better prepared for necessary game reps.

Bauman is the #2. Beltran is the #3. Be prepared to see Casey Bauman play in 4 of the next 5 games.

and our luck would be that he'd play very good, be a huge contributor to winning games....and NOT be able to play in the playoffs. that would be typical bobcat luck....

UNCO and Cal Poly may give Beltran a chance to get some snaps for experience as well, limiting Bauman 3 games before the end of the season.

[Colter_Nuanez]

"He's unique, for sure" - Weber State prepares for Andersen with Bobcat QB ranks suddenly thin
https://skylinesportsmt.com/hes-unique- ... enly-thin/

[catsrback76]

"He's unique, for sure" - Weber State prepares for Andersen with Bobcat QB ranks suddenly thin
https://skylinesportsmt.com/hes-unique- ... enly-thin/

Ya THINK???

[superbobcat]

Does anybody know what the status is with Chris Murray? Is he he in school and/or playing?

[VimSince03]

Does anybody know what the status is with Chris Murray? Is he he in school and/or playing?

Thought he was in the MSU student directory as the plan was for him to strictly focus on school. But just checked and he is not listed anymore. I think the ship has sailed.

[91catAlum]

Chris has been at a couple home football games (I've heard), so I assumed he was still in school this semester.