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Re: MSU offers Gresch Jensen

Post by 84CatGrad » Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:53 pm

I was really surprised when Jensen left last year - not sure I ever heard exactly why. I'd love to have him in our stable.



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Re: MSU offers Gresch Jensen

Post by Common Cat » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:24 pm

Well if you can’t beat em’, join em’.


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Re: MSU offers Gresch Jensen

Post by DriscollCat » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:27 pm

Common Cat wrote:
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Well if you can’t beat em’, join em’.
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Re: MSU offers Gresch Jensen

Post by onceacat » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:56 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:03 pm
iaafan wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:10 pm
He’s 97-165-3, 1,433 yards 11tds 150 rating
Those are good numbers, but I don’t see him making it at a top 50 program. He’s not as athletic as Prukop and I don’t recall him having any intangibles that would put him in the sights of an upper tier team. His completion pct is average as is his TD rate. Numbers are very consistent with what he had at UM.
That completion percentage would put him at #2 in the BSC. #2 in yards (ahead of Gubrud). #3 in passer rating. Not so sure when that became “average.”

If the Cats had him under center & let Troy play a position where Troy was even “average”, we’d be a near lock for the playoffs.



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Re: MSU offers Gresch Jensen

Post by TomCat88 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:30 pm

onceacat wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:56 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:03 pm
iaafan wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:10 pm
He’s 97-165-3, 1,433 yards 11tds 150 rating
Those are good numbers, but I don’t see him making it at a top 50 program. He’s not as athletic as Prukop and I don’t recall him having any intangibles that would put him in the sights of an upper tier team. His completion pct is average as is his TD rate. Numbers are very consistent with what he had at UM.
That completion percentage would put him at #2 in the BSC. #2 in yards (ahead of Gubrud). #3 in passer rating. Not so sure when that became “average.”

If the Cats had him under center & let Troy play a position where Troy was even “average”, we’d be a near lock for the playoffs.
60% (Jensen is 58.8%) became average about 10 years ago. It used to be really good back in Fran Tarkenton’s era. When Christian Ponder was drafted he had a 63% completion percentage and it was considered a flaw in his game. He never materialized. Jensen throws less than two tds per game. 2.5 per game is roughly the cutoff. The other numbers (yardage, rating) you appear to be saying I’m calling average aren’t ones I commented on as being average, so I’m not sure why you’re mentioning them.


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Re: MSU offers Gresch Jensen

Post by onceacat » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:09 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:30 pm
onceacat wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:56 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:03 pm
iaafan wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:10 pm
He’s 97-165-3, 1,433 yards 11tds 150 rating
Those are good numbers, but I don’t see him making it at a top 50 program. He’s not as athletic as Prukop and I don’t recall him having any intangibles that would put him in the sights of an upper tier team. His completion pct is average as is his TD rate. Numbers are very consistent with what he had at UM.
That completion percentage would put him at #2 in the BSC. #2 in yards (ahead of Gubrud). #3 in passer rating. Not so sure when that became “average.”

If the Cats had him under center & let Troy play a position where Troy was even “average”, we’d be a near lock for the playoffs.
60% (Jensen is 58.8%) became average about 10 years ago. It used to be really good back in Fran Tarkenton’s era. When Christian Ponder was drafted he had a 63% completion percentage and it was considered a flaw in his game. He never materialized. Jensen throws less than two tds per game. 2.5 per game is roughly the cutoff. The other numbers (yardage, rating) you appear to be saying I’m calling average aren’t ones I commented on as being average, so I’m not sure why you’re mentioning them.
My bad-my math was off. Regardless, Jensen is currently an order of magnitude better than anyone else on the roster.



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Re: MSU offers Gresch Jensen

Post by Cledus » Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:32 pm

Why would we offer Jensen when we have Andersen? If you don’t believe he’s the best quarterback on the team, ask utucats. He’ll tell you all about it.

There’s no quarterback issue. It’s been solved.


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Re: MSU offers Gresch Jensen

Post by profisme » Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:21 pm

I, for one, would welcome our former foe. C'mon Gresch. Be a Cat.


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Re: MSU offers Gresch Jensen

Post by utucats » Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:55 pm

Cledus wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:32 pm
Why would we offer Jensen when we have Andersen? If you don’t believe he’s the best quarterback on the team, ask utucats. He’ll tell you all about it.

There’s no quarterback issue. It’s been solved.
Is Jensen going to play this year? I hope that next year we have as many options as possible and that the team puts the appropriate personnel where they fit best to give us the best chance to win. We did that with this year’s group and Andersen won. If next season we have a better option then let’s move TA somewhere else. I’ll trust the coaches judgement as long as we continue to improve.


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Re: MSU offers Gresch Jensen

Post by onceacat » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:03 pm

utucats wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:55 pm
Cledus wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:32 pm
Why would we offer Jensen when we have Andersen? If you don’t believe he’s the best quarterback on the team, ask utucats. He’ll tell you all about it.

There’s no quarterback issue. It’s been solved.
Is Jensen going to play this year? I hope that next year we have as many options as possible and that the team puts the appropriate personnel where they fit best to give us the best chance to win. We did that with this year’s group and Andersen won. If next season we have a better option then let’s move TA somewhere else. I’ll trust the coaches judgement as long as we continue to improve.
I’m seriously not trying to be argumentative...but do you really consider winning speaker games against the little sisters of the poor to be improving?



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Re: MSU offers Gresch Jensen

Post by Cledus » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:12 pm

utucats wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:55 pm
Cledus wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:32 pm
Why would we offer Jensen when we have Andersen? If you don’t believe he’s the best quarterback on the team, ask utucats. He’ll tell you all about it.

There’s no quarterback issue. It’s been solved.
Is Jensen going to play this year? I hope that next year we have as many options as possible and that the team puts the appropriate personnel where they fit best to give us the best chance to win. We did that with this year’s group and Andersen won. If next season we have a better option then let’s move TA somewhere else. I’ll trust the coaches judgement as long as we continue to improve.
Why would he not be the best player next year also? He'll still be better than everyone he beat out this year, right? He'll also have more reps under his belt than anyone who could challenge him. It sounds like you're trying to get out of the corner you've painted yourself in.
utucats wrote:I’ll trust the coaches judgement as long as we continue to improve.
Just like Ash turning around the defense, right? I'm seeing a little bit of improvement, but not anything near what was implied. I'm not sure what you're seeing.


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Re: MSU offers Gresch Jensen

Post by bobcat99 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:13 pm

Would instantly be our best QB.



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Re: MSU offers Gresch Jensen

Post by onceacat » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:25 pm

bobcat99 wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:13 pm
Would instantly be our best QB.
By a long shot. Bauman might have more upside, but we currently don't have a Big Sky conference quality backup, let alone starter. And it's been that way for 3 seasons.



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Re: MSU offers Gresch Jensen

Post by codecat » Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:35 pm

Cledus wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:12 pm
utucats wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:55 pm
Cledus wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:32 pm
Why would we offer Jensen when we have Andersen? If you don’t believe he’s the best quarterback on the team, ask utucats. He’ll tell you all about it.

There’s no quarterback issue. It’s been solved.
Is Jensen going to play this year? I hope that next year we have as many options as possible and that the team puts the appropriate personnel where they fit best to give us the best chance to win. We did that with this year’s group and Andersen won. If next season we have a better option then let’s move TA somewhere else. I’ll trust the coaches judgement as long as we continue to improve.
Why would he not be the best player next year also? He'll still be better than everyone he beat out this year, right? He'll also have more reps under his belt than anyone who could challenge him. It sounds like you're trying to get out of the corner you've painted yourself in.
utucats wrote:I’ll trust the coaches judgement as long as we continue to improve.
Just like Ash turning around the defense, right? I'm seeing a little bit of improvement, but not anything near what was implied. I'm not sure what you're seeing.
At least Ash had the top defense 3 years in the conference and a top-3 defense another 3 years.


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Re: MSU offers Gresch Jensen

Post by BigBruceBaker » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:36 pm

He wants to play in the Big Sky. He will for sure be a cat unless he gets a better offer. And we will be MUCH better for it. He’s way better than Snead


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Re: MSU offers Gresch Jensen

Post by bobcat99 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:42 pm

BigBruceBaker wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:36 pm
He wants to play in the Big Sky. He will for sure be a cat unless he gets a better offer. And we will be MUCH better for it. He’s way better than Snead
Scoop me with your details kind sir.



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Re: MSU offers Gresch Jensen

Post by Bozcat003 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:44 pm

bobcat99 wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:42 pm
BigBruceBaker wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:36 pm
He wants to play in the Big Sky. He will for sure be a cat unless he gets a better offer. And we will be MUCH better for it. He’s way better than Snead
Scoop me with your details kind sir.
Same ...



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Re: MSU offers Gresch Jensen

Post by luckyirishguy25 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:01 pm

bobcat99 wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:42 pm
BigBruceBaker wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:36 pm
He wants to play in the Big Sky. He will for sure be a cat unless he gets a better offer. And we will be MUCH better for it. He’s way better than Snead
Scoop me with your details kind sir.
I don't see any bigger of a F-You to Hauck than to sign with us. I'd take Gresch in a heartbeat, he's a great player.



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Re: MSU offers Gresch Jensen

Post by BigBruceBaker » Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:42 pm

bobcat99 wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:42 pm
BigBruceBaker wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:36 pm
He wants to play in the Big Sky. He will for sure be a cat unless he gets a better offer. And we will be MUCH better for it. He’s way better than Snead
Scoop me with your details kind sir.

Im having a hellova time with the pm’s on my phone. Did you get one?


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